Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

For second team in my signature, which side do you prefer?

Poll ended at Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:02 pm

Kenny Golladay + 2018 Pick 3
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Corey Davis
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Total votes: 30

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Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby PigskinAddict » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:02 pm

For team 2 in my signature, I just received this offer.

I receive: Kenny Golladay + 2018 Pick 3

I give: Corey Davis

Per my signature, team 2 is part of a 2 QB/0.5 PPR/1 FLEX league. For the 2018 draft, I have the 3.04, 4.11 and 5.02 picks.

What are the forum's thoughts?

Thanks in advance!
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Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB

QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12

0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB

QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby PigskinAddict » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:05 pm

Rather than "what side do you prefer", the question should likely be "does this trade make sense?". Arguably, I could add a RB with 1.03 and add depth at WR and TE with the 3rd, 4th and 5th round picks.
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Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB

QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12

0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB

QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby darewood11 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:11 pm

Makes sense for your squad as you could use another back. It's a decent trade.

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby M-Dub » Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:56 pm

I’d try to counter with Cooper for the same package, but if he doesn’t go for that, I’d probably take that deal for Davis.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby Blueboy » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:15 pm

I actually don't think this is a decent trade at all. I see the person receiving Corey Davis as winning heavily.

Could be that I'm just not valuing Golladay properly, I didn't watch much of him.

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RB: Bijan, ETN, Pollard, Achane, Herbert
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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby skip » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:17 pm

I don't think Golladay factors in here at all so it's basically 1.03 for Davis. So you ask yourself if it makes sense to trade last year's 1.01 or 1.02 for this year's 1.03. Unless you've soured on Davis, that doesn't work for me.
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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby topher » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:23 pm

Your WR depth (not sure why Davis is listed so far back) better than RB, but I would not make the deal. Davis is still 1.02/1.01 for me and Golladay doesn't move the needle.

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby saw061600 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:30 pm

Davis side...and I like Golladay.
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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby PigskinAddict » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:42 pm

Thanks for the immediate feedback everyone. I don't rank my players when listing them in my sig. I'm also high on Corey Davis and would rather not trade him. However, I considered this offer a learning opportunity, hence why I shared it.

Team 2 was a 2017 startup so I wasn't aware where Davis was drafted in 2017 rookie drafts. I also looked at this offer as a 1.03 for Davis. Golladay has no value to me.

While I believe a healthy Cooper with Coach Gruden will yield a considerable improvement over last season, I'm considering countering with Cooper for 1.03 and a better WR like JuJu.
1.0 PPR/1.5 TE/2 FLEX/IDP FLEX/2 QB Dynasty Team 13-0 League Champion
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB

QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12

0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB

QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby topher » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:00 pm

PigskinAddict wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:42 pm Thanks for the immediate feedback everyone. I don't rank my players when listing them in my sig. I'm also high on Corey Davis and would rather not trade him. However, I considered this offer a learning opportunity, hence why I shared it.

Team 2 was a 2017 startup so I wasn't aware where Davis was drafted in 2017 rookie drafts. I also looked at this offer as a 1.03 for Davis. Golladay has no value to me.

While I believe a healthy Cooper with Coach Gruden will yield a considerable improvement over last season, I'm considering countering with Cooper for 1.03 and a better WR like JuJu.
You have 0 chance of getting Juju and the 1.03 for Cooper

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby Goddard » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:08 pm

Davis, but I don't really value Golladay much.

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby PigskinAddict » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:16 pm

topher wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:00 pm
PigskinAddict wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:42 pm Thanks for the immediate feedback everyone. I don't rank my players when listing them in my sig. I'm also high on Corey Davis and would rather not trade him. However, I considered this offer a learning opportunity, hence why I shared it.

Team 2 was a 2017 startup so I wasn't aware where Davis was drafted in 2017 rookie drafts. I also looked at this offer as a 1.03 for Davis. Golladay has no value to me.

While I believe a healthy Cooper with Coach Gruden will yield a considerable improvement over last season, I'm considering countering with Cooper for 1.03 and a better WR like JuJu.
You have 0 chance of getting Juju and the 1.03 for Cooper
Yeah, I agree. However, in this particular league, you would be surprised at some of trades executed.

Hence, nothing ventured nothing gained.
1.0 PPR/1.5 TE/2 FLEX/IDP FLEX/2 QB Dynasty Team 13-0 League Champion
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB

QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12

0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB

QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby PigskinAddict » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:15 am

M-Dub wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 5:56 pm I’d try to counter with Cooper for the same package, but if he doesn’t go for that, I’d probably take that deal for Davis.
Good call M-Dub. The counteroffer was accepted. Rather than screw around, I just swapped Davis with Cooper when I countered.

I receive: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3

I send: Amari Cooper

As others here have mentioned, I'm trading Cooper for the 2018 pick 3. I'll drop Golladay when roster cuts takes place.
1.0 PPR/1.5 TE/2 FLEX/IDP FLEX/2 QB Dynasty Team 13-0 League Champion
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB

QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12

0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB

QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
2018 Picks: 1.03, 3.04, 4.11, 5.02

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby M-Dub » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:14 am

I wouldn’t be so quick to drop Golladay. Not sure what you have to cut down to, but I see a handful of guys on your roster that I’d cut before Golladay.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties

🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer

Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years

QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0

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Re: Kenny Golladay + 2018 pick 3 for Corey Davis

Postby jeffster » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:53 am

Cooper > Golladay+1.03 > Davis for me, so the first trade was reasonable, and then the change to it made it bad.

I mean, they were both top-5 picks and Cooper had a down year, but he's 23 years old with two 1k+ yard one 680 yard season under his belt. Davis is the same age with a single 375 yard season.

And even if you just like Davis more as a prospect and would rather have him, their ADPs are Cooper 15 and Davis 27, so you gave up an entire round's worth of trade value for free.

The other owner was probably thrilled when you swapped them.


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