Trade Rape?

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Is this trade rape?

Yes
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5%
No
72
95%
 
Total votes: 76

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Trade Rape?

Postby pokerface40 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:53 pm

I commish the league for my team 1 in my sig. I just completed the following trade:

Gave: Landry, Wentz, Cohen, 2019 2nd

Received: Julio, Tyrod, Beast Mode, 1.11

I immediately got an email from another owner saying that I trade raped the other owner and that I had done so to the same owner too many times.

I will agree I have won several trades with this guy over the past year. But isn't that the point, to win the trade? I know as commish I have a responsibility to run a fair league and not take advantage of bad owners as much as others have the right to.

But to me this isn't that bad of a trade for either side. Granted I am a huge Landry guy and have him way closer to Julio than most(hell he outscored Julio in our league this year and is 4 years younger). Plus I gave up who I consider at the overall QB1 in dynasty. Yes QBs aren't as valuable in our format but there is something to be said for owning Wentz.

I was wondering if I am way off base, or missing something. I included a poll but would love additional thoughts on the situation.....

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby Rtreilly81 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:08 pm

I prefer the Landry Wentz side in a dynasty all day long
16 team ppr superflex

QB: Garoppolo, Ben Roethlisberger
RB: Mixon, Henry, Booker, Miller, Mack, McNichols, Ballage
WR: Davis, Treadwell, Jmatt, Beasley, DJ Moore, J Washington, Tre’ Smith, Prich, Taywan Taylor, Chad Williams, Benjamin, Krishawn Hogan
TE: Njoku, McDonald

18 picks: 1.13, 2.07, 2.13, 3.02

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby bjd5211 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:11 pm

Other guy won this trade, so you definitely didn't rip him off lol. Landry isn't far behind Julio, all the other pieces you gave up are far better than the ones you received.

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby RightlegTucker » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:12 pm

You won but that's not egregious. I had a similar situation in a dynasty basketball league where other owners were complaining after I made a blockbuster trade that I shouldn't make deals like that. I don't really get the argument. I'm trying to win just like everyone else, if there's no collusion and both parties agree I don't see what the issue is. If you're upset because I make good trades make the deal before I do.

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby UATahoe » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:15 pm

Give me the Landry side all day.
12 Team PPR League 1Qb 2Rb 3Wr 1Flex 1Te 1Def 1K

1 QB Mahomes, Dak Prescott
2 RB Mixon, Kamara, Melvin Gordon, Nick Chubb, Royce Freeman, Justice Hill, Boston Scott, Ito Smith
3 WR Godwin, K. Allen, A. Cooper, S. Watkins, DJ Moore, Michael Gallup, Kelvin Harmon, Martavis Bryant, Core Coleman(IR) Preston Williams(IR)
1 TE Mark Andrews, H. Henry, H. Hurst, Ian Thomas, Goedert
D/ST Bears
K Zane Gonzalez

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby HughHoney » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:15 pm

Agree with the others you lost this trade. I’d give that other owner a day or two to sober up before responding.

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby block2323 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:17 pm

I hate this trade for you, but great move for the other guy.
12 Team, .5 PPR, 9 Keepers, 21 Man Roster + 2 IR Spots
Start: 1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, 1K, 1 Def

QB: T. Brady
RB: D. Johnson, N. Chubb, L. Fournette, C. Hyde, I. Smith, M. Davis
WR: OBJ, T. Hill, K. Allen, C. Kupp, D. Pettis, E. Sanders, D. Hamilton, R. Foster, J. Crowder, T. Patrick
TE: O. Howard, D. Goedert, C. Herndon
Def: Jax
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2019: 1.02, 2.01, 2.09, 3.02, 4.03, 4.05, 4.12
2020: 1st (x2), 2nd (x1), 3rd (x1), 4th (x2)

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby jwb32 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:19 pm

Landry/Wentz side
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby Needalife » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:31 pm

Same here, Landry side by a good bit. This feedback you’re getting is based on Julio mystique more than reality.
14 TM / Devy / SuperFlex / TEP
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F


QB: Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, Jaylen Warren, James Conner, Raheem Mostert
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Marquise Brown, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Aaron Donald, Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Trey Benson FSU, RB Will Shipley Clemson
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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby Goddard » Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:51 pm

Not sure what that other owner is talking about. Give me the Landry side.

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby SteveVolk » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:40 pm

Landry/Wentz.

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby greenbird » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:41 pm

Landry side for me as well.

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby darewood11 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:42 pm

RightlegTucker wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:12 pm You won but that's not egregious. I had a similar situation in a dynasty basketball league where other owners were complaining after I made a blockbuster trade that I shouldn't make deals like that. I don't really get the argument. I'm trying to win just like everyone else, if there's no collusion and both parties agree I don't see what the issue is. If you're upset because I make good trades make the deal before I do.
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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby snaps06 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:56 pm

Needalife wrote: Tue Feb 13, 2018 6:31 pm Same here, Landry side by a good bit. This feedback you’re getting is based on Julio mystique more than reality.
You mean the "down year" 88 catch, 1400 yard Julio mystique? Because that definitely wasn't reality in 2017...or was it?

I will never understand the Julio hate...

To add to the other replies, it's a 1QB, 12 team league and he already has Stafford. Wentz won't be a championship difference maker, but Julio wins championships in those settings.

I like the Julio side because he is the best piece, but it's not a horrible trade by any means.
Team 1: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '16 & '17 3rd, '20 2nd Place
REBUILD STARTED 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Herbert
Zeke,Sanders,Swift,Moss,Robinson,Mattison,Gio
Cooper,Juju,AJB,Reagor,Ruggs,Mims,Kirk,Bateman,Moore
Kelce,Henry
2022: 2,3,4

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '17 & '20 2nd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Robinson,Dillon,CEvans,Mattison,Edmonds,Davis
Hopkins,Thomas,Woods,Cooks,Toney,MWilliams,
Kittle,Henry,Freier
2022:1,1,2,3,4

Team 3: 14-Team SF,PPR,0.25/rush '18 3rd Place, 2020 Champ :dance:
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Carr,Trask
Jacobs,Gibson,Robinson,LMurray,Ingram,Moss,Gio,SScott
Evans,Nuk,DJM,Boyd,Davis
Fant,Hooper,Gronk
2022:2,4
2023:1,1,2,3,4

Team 4: 12-TeamSF,0.5PPR,TE1PPR 2020 Champ :dance:
QB RB RB WR WR WR TE FLEX FLEX SFlex
Allen,Tanny,Cam,MacJones
Taylor,Akers,Montgomery,Gibson,Robinson,Harris,McKissic,SScott
DKM,Evans,Juju,Cooks,MWilliams,Trequan
Engram,Hurst,Gronk,Long

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Re: Trade Rape?

Postby knotts4372 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:25 pm

id much rather have the julio side by a good bit but can see why the other guy would want younger players.

on an aside here, anyone mind saying why they think he lost here? wentz is great and all but its 1 qb start and he doesnt downgrade much going to stafford there. he upgraded really big at wr as well. like i said i dont think its trade rape by any means but cant see how the julio side didnt come out on top pretty easily
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