Dealing with Being in a Dynasty League Where Other Owners Don't Understand Value

[ascherb]

So, I commish a 14-team dynasty league where everyone is active, but many of the owners don't really understand fair dynasty value of players. They don't understand that youth in itself is an asset in dynasty and therefore guys like Mike Williams have value despite not playing in 2017.

Marshawn Lynch was taken at 1.05 of our rookie draft last year. Guys like Mike Williams are not valued at all and we had to convince the owner of him not to straight up drop him.

My question is how does someone who understands value of assets better than 75% of the league, how do I take advantage?

[Madadamus]

Acquire a lot of young talent, and more importantly picks. I am in a league like this sorta. I couldn't trade for anyone that was producing, and anyone that wasn't was worthless to other owners. Getting picks though allows you to build your team and once you have the Fournette/Kamara/Barkley hits you can really take advantage.

[jpusmc0311]

Take advantage of his undervaluation of Williams and lowball him.. Send him DGB straight up. I've pretty much given up on DGB, and if he was going to drop Williams anyways, he should take it.

[darewood11]

Let him drop Williams and scoop him up ha. I've noticed if I even give helpful insight they think I'm just trying to rip them off so i gave up trying to help. It's painful sometimes

[mullmania]

Yeah it's not a bad league in to sell Dez types for a 1st and 2nd and acquire the whole rookie draft.

[ArrylT]

Make sure none of your fellow owners visits DLF for starters.

[Gator Sens]

I'm surprised those type of owners are even in a dynasty league. They seem better suited for year to year leagues. I think dynasty leagues can take a year or 2 to get used to and fully understand. Hopefully your league improves to be more fun.

[Golly Dagger]

I'm in two dynasty leagues with this same dilemma. It gets really frustrating trying to defend specific players, especially young wide receivers. My leagues are full of "what have you done for me lately" people.

Guys with almost zero value in my league:

Mike Williams
Corey Coleman
Dez Bryant
Andrew Luck
Corey Davis
John Ross
Sammy Watkins

(Keenan Allen before this season)

Those are just examples, the list goes on. If you've under produced or "injury prone," you're near worthless. I was ridiculed for stating Keenan Allen was just a victim of fluke injuries and would be a top 5 wideout when healthy again. My advice would be to go after youth, buy low candidates, etc.

Joe Mixon, Julio Jones, and T.Y. Hilton would be some names I'd be looking at if your league is in a similar line of thinking.

[M-Dub]

So, I commish a 14-team dynasty league where everyone is active, but many of the owners don't really understand fair dynasty value of players. They don't understand that youth in itself is an asset in dynasty and therefore guys like Mike Williams have value despite not playing in 2017.

Marshawn Lynch was taken at 1.05 of our rookie draft last year. Guys like Mike Williams are not valued at all and we had to convince the owner of him not to straight up drop him.

My question is how does someone who understands value of assets better than 75% of the league, how do I take advantage?

Where do I start?

First of all, this is just a silly question. Are you seriously asking how to take advantage of owners who value current production more than youth and upside? Isn’t that Dynasty 101?

Secondly, if this is the same 14-team league as the one in your sig, it looks like you’ve already done a masterful job of taking advantage of said owners.

Last but not least, if you’re the commish, I think you at least have some degree of responsibility for educating your fellow owners about dynasty values. Sure, sometimes you can lead a horse to water and it’ll still take Marshawn Lynch at 1.05, but you should at least encourage the other owners to visit these forums, or listen to a dynasty podcast or two, or check the Reddit dynasty forum or something. Or you can just fleece the hell out of them and then try to find replacement owners for the shitty teams they eventually abandon.

[Goddard]

Compare redraft rankings to dynasty rankings. If you see a player on your team who's ranked a lot higher in redraft than he is in dynasty, move that guy for someone who's the exact opposite. No/low redraft value, but high dynasty value.

[saw061600]

Sometimes you just can't get owners to understand. I've repeatedly posted links to DFL, Rotoviz, and other sites in attempts to get owners in one league to wake up (about 1/2 seem clueless, still saw a DB go in round 1 last year ) Even after all the shared resources, they still send me offers like I give Watkins+Jones for Curtis Samuel and CJ Prosise (because "I drafted him [CJ] in round 1 and Watkins hasn't done jack). Ugh.

[Hahaclintondix]

My league started like this. If they weren’t immediately producing, nobody wanted them. We had 8-9 teams that thought they could win and assembled decent 1-2 year teams. Draft picks were tossed around like candy, young players were just thrown in to get older guys who were current WR1/RB1s. It was complete lunacy.

The team that won year 1 is completely irrelevant outside of Bell, year 2 champ missed the playoffs and has 1 draft pick for the next 3 seasons, year 3 champ acquired picks/young players while everyone else went all in and is in great shape for the next few seasons. The other current top teams also flipped older dudes and win now players for picks and younger guys during the first two years. Our league is so lopsided and top heavy now that more than 60% of the top 50 players are on 4 teams. The guys at the bottom have a couple of respectable players and a draft pick or two. That’s it.

Your team is stacked anyway, but my suggestion would be to trade anything you don’t really need for first round picks that could be top 5 and younger players nobody wants. Get rid of all the older 1 or 2 year guys, stockpile picks and young guys who haven’t broken out yet.

[moishetreats]

So, I commish a 14-team dynasty league where everyone is active, but many of the owners don't really understand fair dynasty value of players. They don't understand that youth in itself is an asset in dynasty and therefore guys like Mike Williams have value despite not playing in 2017.

Marshawn Lynch was taken at 1.05 of our rookie draft last year. Guys like Mike Williams are not valued at all and we had to convince the owner of him not to straight up drop him.

My question is how does someone who understands value of assets better than 75% of the league, how do I take advantage?

Where do I start?

First of all, this is just a silly question. Are you seriously asking how to take advantage of owners who value current production more than youth and upside? Isn’t that Dynasty 101?

Secondly, if this is the same 14-team league as the one in your sig, it looks like you’ve already done a masterful job of taking advantage of said owners.

Last but not least, if you’re the commish, I think you at least have some degree of responsibility for educating your fellow owners about dynasty values. Sure, sometimes you can lead a horse to water and it’ll still take Marshawn Lynch at 1.05, but you should at least encourage the other owners to visit these forums, or listen to a dynasty podcast or two, or check the Reddit dynasty forum or something. Or you can just fleece the hell out of them and then try to find replacement owners for the shitty teams they eventually abandon.

^This, ^this, and^^^this.

[Mkh3225]

Ugh... we had a guy drop Mike Williams and then the commish literally reached out to make sure he meant it... I understand "fat finger" drops but it sat like that for hours before he finally noticed... we also had a guy drop DeShaun Watson for Alex Smith then my buddy picked him up for free and traded him back to him for a 2019 1 and 2... some people are just way too shortsighted for their own good... there's only so much you can do to educate.

[skip]

Marshawn Lynch was taken at 1.05 of our rookie draft last year.

Go back to lay year and you will find probably at least half the members of this board were advocating taking Lynch in the middle first. I lost track of the number of times I had to post trying to explain why that is terrible value. Finally I just gave up. There are far too many redraft minded owners in this game now. There really isn't much you can do about it other than run your team your way and take advantage of their mistakes.