Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

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Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:36 am

What does everyone think Alshon's price is heading into the 2018 season?

I'm thinking about going after him since I have Wentz but I don't want to over pay.

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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby skip » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:38 am

Based on your roster, I imagine my suggestion will be what you may consider an overpay but I'd need at least one of your early 1sts (assuming you wouldn't move Kamara or Mixon). I don't see much other value on your roster that would make sense to give up Jeffery.
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby RB6 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:41 am

Agree with Skip, Jeffery doesn't make sense for you. You should be going after younger WRs. That team is a couple years away from competing.
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Benny5 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:45 am

See if he will take the 2.02 (which is almost a first rounder and if the other team likes rookies or has WR depth they might just take it).... If not maybe consider the 1.04 ... but I imagine you can probably get a higher tiered WR for the 1.04 ... especially if a team is high on this years RBs and they have WR depth...
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Goddard » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:46 am

Piling on. I'm a big Jeffery fan and would need an early 1st valuation, but that wouldn't make sense for your team.

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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Gator Sens » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:20 am

Based on the responses, what younger talent do you think I should go after with the 1.04 pick? Or does it make more sense to keep the 2, 3 and 4 picks at this point?

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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Johnny Canuck » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:52 am

Gator Sens wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:20 am Based on the responses, what younger talent do you think I should go after with the 1.04 pick? Or does it make more sense to keep the 2, 3 and 4 picks at this point?
A) your undervaluing Jeffery, he'd cost more than you want to pay & whoever suggested an early 2nd would be enough to get Jeffery is completely out to lunch.
B) your team isn't built to win now so guys like Jeffery aren't the right type of target. Gotta go get some younger WRs, and maybe the odd cheap vet to balance it out.

If I had your team I would try and target:
Tyreek (23yrs)
Evans (try to buy low - 24yrs)
Amari (hoping for a bounce back - 23yrs)
Arob (24yrs)
Diggs (24yrs)
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Funchess (23yrs)
Cooper Kupp (24yrs)
John Ross (lotto ticket for very cheap - 23yrs)
Curtis Samuel (21yrs)
Fuller (23yrs)
JuJu (21yrs)

Your team isn't super close to competing, I'd ask around about these guys, and maybe you can snag a few for cheap. Give them a few yrs then you'll be golden.

OR

Trade for all the vets/risky players that everyone undervalues and try to make a run at it. Your types like: Larry Fitz, Josh Gordon, Crabtree, Jordy, etc.

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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Benny5 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 pm

Johnny Canuck wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:52 am
Gator Sens wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:20 am Based on the responses, what younger talent do you think I should go after with the 1.04 pick? Or does it make more sense to keep the 2, 3 and 4 picks at this point?
A) your undervaluing Jeffery, he'd cost more than you want to pay & whoever suggested an early 2nd would be enough to get Jeffery is completely out to lunch.
B) your team isn't built to win now so guys like Jeffery aren't the right type of target. Gotta go get some younger WRs, and maybe the odd cheap vet to balance it out.

If I had your team I would try and target:
Tyreek (23yrs)
Evans (try to buy low - 24yrs)
Amari (hoping for a bounce back - 23yrs)
Arob (24yrs)
Diggs (24yrs)
Sammy (24yrs)
Jarvis (25yrs - late bday)
Adams (25yrs - late bday)
Robby Anderson (ultra buy low - 24yrs)
Moncrief (hope he resigns with the colts - 24yrs)
Corey Davis (23yrs)
Funchess (23yrs)
Cooper Kupp (24yrs)
John Ross (lotto ticket for very cheap - 23yrs)
Curtis Samuel (21yrs)
Fuller (23yrs)
JuJu (21yrs)

Your team isn't super close to competing, I'd ask around about these guys, and maybe you can snag a few for cheap. Give them a few yrs then you'll be golden.

OR

Trade for all the vets/risky players that everyone undervalues and try to make a run at it. Your types like: Larry Fitz, Josh Gordon, Crabtree, Jordy, etc.
Not completely out to lunch. See my explanation that 2.2 is almost a first rounder and if they have depth they might value the rookie class more than Jeffery. I owned him last year in my redraft league and he was my 4th receiver so if I'm high on this rookie class or need a QB... the 14th overall pick will surely have me thinking about possibly taking it. I didn't say 2.12 which is 24th overall... this guy has the 2.2 and you never know what other owners are thinking until you present offers. Some guys on your list are valued way higher than Jeffery... therefore even further incentive to stick with offering the 2.2 first.
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby psfox2010 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:31 pm

Benny5 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:45 am See if he will take the 2.02 (which is almost a first rounder and if the other team likes rookies or has WR depth they might just take it).... If not maybe consider the 1.04 ... but I imagine you can probably get a higher tiered WR for the 1.04 ... especially if a team is high on this years RBs and they have WR depth...
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Benny5 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:40 pm

You guys keep laughing or saying things but I've pulled off trades simply by throwing them out there. Maybe your leagues are more hardcore than mine, I don't know, but depth matters to some, and not many around me are high on Jeffery even with his extension.
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Johnny Canuck » Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:42 pm

Benny5 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 pm Not completely out to lunch. See my explanation that 2.2 is almost a first rounder and if they have depth they might value the rookie class more than Jeffery.
I wholeheartedly disagree. An offer of 2.02 for Jeffery wouldn't/shouldn't even elicit a response. You must have rookie fever to think that is close. Jeffery should fetch somewhere between 1.05-1.08 minimum - remember rookie bust rate hovers around 50+% and it gets exponentially worse as the picks get worse. The rookie draft last yr was the exception, not the rule.
Benny5 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 pm I owned him last year in my redraft league and he was my 4th receiver so if I'm high on this rookie class or need a QB... the 14th overall pick will surely have me thinking about possibly taking it.
This argument holds no water. I have a ton of depth so I should prob sell it off for cheap because I have extra...that's a sure fire way to NOT build a dynasty. I get it, if you're high on a certain rookie than you might make a move that includes the 2.02, but no way should that move be for just the 2.02, it would have to be 2.02++
Benny5 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 pm I didn't say 2.12 which is 24th overall... this guy has the 2.2 and you never know what other owners are thinking until you present offers. Some guys on your list are valued way higher than Jeffery... therefore even further incentive to stick with offering the 2.2 first.
True, you don't know what others are thinking, so it's good to not present your absolute best offer initially. But you def don't want to send an insulting offer either.

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Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:36 pm

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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Benny5 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:39 pm

Johnny Canuck wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 4:42 pm
Benny5 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 pm Not completely out to lunch. See my explanation that 2.2 is almost a first rounder and if they have depth they might value the rookie class more than Jeffery.
I wholeheartedly disagree. An offer of 2.02 for Jeffery wouldn't/shouldn't even elicit a response. You must have rookie fever to think that is close. Jeffery should fetch somewhere between 1.05-1.08 minimum - remember rookie bust rate hovers around 50+% and it gets exponentially worse as the picks get worse. The rookie draft last yr was the exception, not the rule.
Benny5 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 pm I owned him last year in my redraft league and he was my 4th receiver so if I'm high on this rookie class or need a QB... the 14th overall pick will surely have me thinking about possibly taking it.
This argument holds no water. I have a ton of depth so I should prob sell it off for cheap because I have extra...that's a sure fire way to NOT build a dynasty. I get it, if you're high on a certain rookie than you might make a move that includes the 2.02, but no way should that move be for just the 2.02, it would have to be 2.02++
Benny5 wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 2:48 pm I didn't say 2.12 which is 24th overall... this guy has the 2.2 and you never know what other owners are thinking until you present offers. Some guys on your list are valued way higher than Jeffery... therefore even further incentive to stick with offering the 2.2 first.
True, you don't know what others are thinking, so it's good to not present your absolute best offer initially. But you def don't want to send an insulting offer either.
What leagues are you guys in where you won't even respond to an offer? That's pretty sick and not fun if you ask me. I'll at least joke with somebody or tell them what I'd need even if the initial offer seems to low... but outside of trolling and nonsensical BS, another owner approaching me for a player means they want somebody from my team... I'd have to at least hear them out after they come to their senses if it is deemed too low.

I don't have rookie fever. I'm one of the guys who likes known values. But when there's enough depth... I most certainly will ship my WR4. Mind you it appears most of these leagues are 3 wr lineups... so in that case I would not. However in my leagues they're 2 starting WR so I don't need solid/stud beyond WR3.

Also, thinking, and proposing are not Accepting. There's ways to start conversations about trades and then have the final trade be nowhere near the initial talk.

I also think if you present your valuations in a professional manner with rationale there won't be insults... again... a 14th overall in a deep QB rookie class might have the guy saying "yes thats good, but can you throw me a little more?" and then... we're at the 2.02+ you outlined.
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby RAB » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:30 pm

On a team thats looking for a WR2/3 with upside he might be worth a late 1st round pick. For a team with good WR depth he might not be worth that to them. I happily sold him for the 1.04 last off season. No one would pay a 1st round pick for him this year in my league. He had one 90 yard game last year with inflated numbers due to TDs. He's a solid WR2/3 so what's that worth to you. To some a late 1st. To Benny and me maybe not.
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Re: Alshon Jeffery 2018 trade value

Postby Benny5 » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:52 pm

RAB wrote: Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:30 pm On a team thats looking for a WR2/3 with upside he might be worth a late 1st round pick. For a team with good WR depth he might not be worth that to them. I happily sold him for the 1.04 last off season. No one would pay a 1st round pick for him this year in my league. He had one 90 yard game last year with inflated numbers due to TDs. He's a solid WR2/3 so what's that worth to you. To some a late 1st. To Benny and me maybe not.
Yes it seems others in this thread have him as a WR1/WR2 ... in my league for 2017 scoring he was 18th WR so that's a firm WR2 ... if I already have two WR1 and another solid WR2 I'm more willing to part with him. If people are big on stacking Wentz and Jeffery I can see where his value is higher to them... but again a 1.08 and 2.02 are six spaces apart which some owners don't flinch at either if they're rookie hungry or have spots to fill. Oh well, I only respond to threads on here to give posters different views to think on... not necessarily looking to change the mass thinking, or one hundred percent change somebody's mind on something.
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