OBJ or Evans, AR15, Devonta Freeman?

[IR1]

Evans side, OBJ is the best piece, but the difference is less than Arob and Freeman

[jpusmc0311]

Evans has one "down year" and hes suddenly that far behind OBJ? How is this even a question? The Evans side by a mile.

While OBJ is clearly not worth all 3, I think he’s easily worth more than Evans and not because of one “down” year. But rather because OBJ’s average has been greater than Evans’ ceiling through 4 years. Look at their production. OBJ averaged more ppg in each of his 3 full seasons than Evans did in his best (2016). And for their careers, OBJ has averaged >5 ppg more than Evans. And his average is >2 ppg than Evans’ best year. How are they similar? OBJ has a higher ceiling and much higher floor.

I never said that they were similar. I asked how Evans' value was far enough to be worth freeman and AR15 just to become even....

[HughHoney]

Evans has one "down year" and hes suddenly that far behind OBJ? How is this even a question? The Evans side by a mile.

While OBJ is clearly not worth all 3, I think he’s easily worth more than Evans and not because of one “down” year. But rather because OBJ’s average has been greater than Evans’ ceiling through 4 years. Look at their production. OBJ averaged more ppg in each of his 3 full seasons than Evans did in his best (2016). And for their careers, OBJ has averaged >5 ppg more than Evans. And his average is >2 ppg than Evans’ best year. How are they similar? OBJ has a higher ceiling and much higher floor.

I never said that they were similar. I asked how Evans' value was far enough to be worth freeman and AR15 just to become even....

Got it. I voted Evans side on this one too.

[ArrylT]

According to DLF ADP for Jan 2018 this would be like trading (in a startup draft)

1.01 (Beckham)

for

1.08 (Evans)
2.10 (Freeman)
3.03 (Robinson)

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Evans has one "down year" and hes suddenly that far behind OBJ? How is this even a question? The Evans side by a mile.

While OBJ is clearly not worth all 3, I think he’s easily worth more than Evans and not because of one “down” year. But rather because OBJ’s average has been greater than Evans’ ceiling through 4 years. Look at their production. OBJ averaged more ppg in each of his 3 full seasons than Evans did in his best (2016). And for their careers, OBJ has averaged >5 ppg more than Evans. And his average is >2 ppg than Evans’ best year. How are they similar? OBJ has a higher ceiling and much higher floor.

In 2016 the two produced virtually identical numbers (Evans very slightly ahead both as a point total and ppg) and if you were to look back to last off season there were plenty of people on this forum who had Evans rated as their #1 dynasty WR ahead of OBJ primarily due to off field concerns they had with the latter. I don't agree with that assessment but the two are certainly close enough in value that there shouldn't be anyone here voting for the OBJ side given the two other pieces are quite valuable in their own right.

[HughHoney]

Evans has one "down year" and hes suddenly that far behind OBJ? How is this even a question? The Evans side by a mile.

While OBJ is clearly not worth all 3, I think he’s easily worth more than Evans and not because of one “down” year. But rather because OBJ’s average has been greater than Evans’ ceiling through 4 years. Look at their production. OBJ averaged more ppg in each of his 3 full seasons than Evans did in his best (2016). And for their careers, OBJ has averaged >5 ppg more than Evans. And his average is >2 ppg than Evans’ best year. How are they similar? OBJ has a higher ceiling and much higher floor.

In 2016 the two produced virtually identical numbers (Evans very slightly ahead both as a point total and ppg) and if you were to look back to last off season there were plenty of people on this forum who had Evans rated as their #1 dynasty WR ahead of OBJ primarily due to off field concerns they had with the latter. I don't agree with that assessment but the two are certainly close enough in value that there shouldn't be anyone here voting for the OBJ side given the two other pieces are quite valuable in their own right.

2016 was virtually the same (my PPR league scoring had OBJ very slightly ahead). But the fact that people had them even or Evans ahead was the reason for my post. That one year seems like a ceiling for Evans as it’s very different than his other 3 years. For OBJ it was actually a drop in production.

[Goddard]

That would be an incredible haul for any one player.

[thomasscheeks]

I accidentally clicked OBJ. This is very easily the Evans side. lol

[Vcize]

Evans has one "down year" and hes suddenly that far behind OBJ? How is this even a question? The Evans side by a mile.

This trade is obviously way in favor of the Evans side but yes, Evans should be way behind OBJ. OBJ has been top 5 in PPG every year he's played and Evans hasn't even been top 12 more than once. Here are their PPG rankings each year of their career.

OBJ: WR1, WR3, WR6, WR3
Evans: WR13, WR26, WR3, WR20

I think a better way to characterize it might be "Evans has one good year and all the sudden he's close to OBJ"? It's kind of a joke that Evans is considered anywhere near OBJ. AR15+Freeman close the gap for sure, but let's not pretend Beckham and Evans are a toss-up. They've been equal one year and Beckham has been miles better all three other years.

[Vcize]

While OBJ is clearly not worth all 3, I think he’s easily worth more than Evans and not because of one “down” year. But rather because OBJ’s average has been greater than Evans’ ceiling through 4 years. Look at their production. OBJ averaged more ppg in each of his 3 full seasons than Evans did in his best (2016). And for their careers, OBJ has averaged >5 ppg more than Evans. And his average is >2 ppg than Evans’ best year. How are they similar? OBJ has a higher ceiling and much higher floor.

In 2016 the two produced virtually identical numbers (Evans very slightly ahead both as a point total and ppg) and if you were to look back to last off season there were plenty of people on this forum who had Evans rated as their #1 dynasty WR ahead of OBJ primarily due to off field concerns they had with the latter. I don't agree with that assessment but the two are certainly close enough in value that there shouldn't be anyone here voting for the OBJ side given the two other pieces are quite valuable in their own right.

So in Mike Evans' career best season he was equal to OBJ's career worst season in PPG, and that's a good thing for Evans.

I get that people had Evans in the same tier as OBJ last year in startups, maybe even a head. But that was a poor ranking and they are kicking themselves for it now. Not to mention I'm not really sure how relevant rankings from a year ago are. Amari Cooper had top 5 overall ADP and Sammy Watkins had 1st round startup ADP back then. 12 months is a long time in fantasy football.

I'm not saying Evans is no good or anything, but he's very far from a perennial WR1, much less a perennial top 3 overall WR, which OBJ absolutely is.

[TheTroll]

If you are rebuilding then it’s a good deal but OBJ is hands down the best player.

[hockeyBjj]

So TS update us, has he laughed and rejected your horrible offer yet?

[Lssd2012]

So TS update us, has he laughed and rejected your horrible offer yet?

Haha I accepted his offer, even prior to this thread. Just wanted to see what the reactions would be.

[pierson242]

This is the type of trade that ruins league, looks like collusion if I was on the outside looking in! Evans side by miles

[cptjonesb]

Evans side pretty easily