Michael Thomas Trade (UPDATE)
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Michael Thomas Trade (UPDATE)
Owner in my league has offered me an interesting trade:
Give: MT and Hunter Henry
Get: Cooks, Gronk, and 2019 1st
His Team:
WR: Landry, Alshon, Cooks, Larry Fitz, Jordy, Parker
RB: D. Henry (guy loves him though), Mckinnon, Crowell, Breida
TE: Gronk, Doyle
I dont like the initial offer, and would appreciate some help thinking of other option that gives me the best chance of winning in the next 2 years?
Give: MT and Hunter Henry
Get: Cooks, Gronk, and 2019 1st
His Team:
WR: Landry, Alshon, Cooks, Larry Fitz, Jordy, Parker
RB: D. Henry (guy loves him though), Mckinnon, Crowell, Breida
TE: Gronk, Doyle
I dont like the initial offer, and would appreciate some help thinking of other option that gives me the best chance of winning in the next 2 years?
Last edited by jonesmaster on Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:23 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
TE: Andrews , Njoku, LaPorta, Washington, Mayer
D/ST: Bills / Philly
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QB: Kyler , Dak , R. Wilson, Dimes, Kenny P
RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
TE: Andrews , Njoku, LaPorta, Washington, Mayer
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade
I really like Henry and I think without knowing the 2019 pick is a high pick I would decline
Re: Michael Thomas Trade
I think your best chance would be to keep what you have. The value may be there, but Gronk is older and I wouldn't want the value tied up in receiving options from the same team. MT starts for you, as would Gronk, but I think Henry has the upside to become a TE1.
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QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
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TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
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12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
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TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
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WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
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DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
Re: Michael Thomas Trade
Fair offer, but I'd keep MT.
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1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
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QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
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TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade
MT side slightly.
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Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
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Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade
I'd keep your guys, especially since the 2019 pick isn't helping you win anytime soon.
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade
Oh my...I'm pretty surprised by the poll results and responses so far. I'd take the Cooks + Gronk side pretty easily.
Thomas = Cooks + 2019 1st
Henry <<< Gronk
Thomas = Cooks + 2019 1st
Henry <<< Gronk
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade
My thoughts exactly. The demise of Rob Gronkowski is greatly exaggerated. And if you worry about having 2 receiving options from the same team (even though its a top offense with the GOAT at the helm), then try to flip Cooks for another similar receiver (Diggs?). That 2019 1st is a cherry on top of an already good deal.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:19 am Oh my...I'm pretty surprised by the poll results and responses so far. I'd take the Cooks + Gronk side pretty easily.
Thomas = Cooks + 2019 1st
Henry <<< Gronk
Re: Michael Thomas Trade
I'm generally an advocate for selling Gronk but I agree with this valuation right now (and I like Henry). I'd even go as far as to say Cooks+2019 1st > Thomas.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:19 am Oh my...I'm pretty surprised by the poll results and responses so far. I'd take the Cooks + Gronk side pretty easily.
Thomas = Cooks + 2019 1st
Henry <<< Gronk
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade
I disagree completely. Thomas is worth a lot more than Cooks and a random future first. And Henry will be a stud TE at some point, maybe even as early as this next season. I would easily pass on this deal and keep Thomas over Cooks. The upgrade from Henry to Gronk isn't a big enough deal to lose out on ThomasBisquiteen Trisket wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:22 amMy thoughts exactly. The demise of Rob Gronkowski is greatly exaggerated. And if you worry about having 2 receiving options from the same team (even though its a top offense with the GOAT at the helm), then try to flip Cooks for another similar receiver (Diggs?). That 2019 1st is a cherry on top of an already good deal.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:19 am Oh my...I'm pretty surprised by the poll results and responses so far. I'd take the Cooks + Gronk side pretty easily.
Thomas = Cooks + 2019 1st
Henry <<< Gronk
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade
I'm on board with this myself.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:19 am Oh my...I'm pretty surprised by the poll results and responses so far. I'd take the Cooks + Gronk side pretty easily.
Thomas = Cooks + 2019 1st
Henry <<< Gronk
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Re: Michael Thomas Trade (UPDATE)
I was able to get this deal done instead:
Give: MT
Get: Landry, Cooks, and 2019 2nd
Give: MT
Get: Landry, Cooks, and 2019 2nd
8-team SF / 0.5 PPR / TE (Full PPR) Scoring: 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2FLX, 1 SFLX, 1TE, 1D/ST, K (Only relevant players listed)
QB: Kyler , Dak , R. Wilson, Dimes, Kenny P
RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
TE: Andrews , Njoku, LaPorta, Washington, Mayer
D/ST: Bills / Philly
Picks : 2024: 3 firsts; 2025: 3 firsts; 2026: 4 firsts
QB: Kyler , Dak , R. Wilson, Dimes, Kenny P
RB: AK , Mostert
WR: Godwin , Deebo , Dotson , Hollywood, Addison, E. Moore
TE: Andrews , Njoku, LaPorta, Washington, Mayer
D/ST: Bills / Philly
Picks : 2024: 3 firsts; 2025: 3 firsts; 2026: 4 firsts
Re: Michael Thomas Trade (UPDATE)
Beautiful. MT is certainly better than Landry and Cooks, but not the two of them togetherjonesmaster wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:23 pm I was able to get this deal done instead:
Give: MT
Get: Landry, Cooks, and 2019 2nd
With your team make up and being able to start 4WR, not 3, this gives you 4 very good guys to have in your lineup each and every week, rather than 3 solid WRs and then scratching your head and trying to guess for who to play for a 2nd flex
Also, with your roster, see if you can find a buyer for Brees to possible get you a better RB3. Luck, with Rivers in reserve and Trub as your young hopeful is plenty for a 1QB league
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
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QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
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TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
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QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
Re: Michael Thomas Trade (UPDATE)
This seems to be the general sentiment in this thread but that is laced with recency bias if not altogether inaccurate. MT was better in 2017 by a small margin. But Cooks had a down year with the move to the Patriots (and still quite good). MT is going to have to maintain the kind of production he's had and hope the other two don't rebound in order to be perceived as better. These guys are all very close in age (24-25) and it could be reasonably argued based on the history of these players than either Landry or Cooks is just as good as MT. Both together is a huge coup.
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