Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

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Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby TheTroll » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:50 pm

So 1 QB league who would you rather have right now and why?
Team 1
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def

QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE

Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker

Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex

QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert

Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn

Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby HughHoney » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:58 pm

Luck because he’s a much better NFL QB. Only argument I can think of for Winston is if you think Luck will never fully recover from his injury.

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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby Vcize » Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:08 pm

I'd rather have a medium chance of a top 3 QB playing again than a high chance of getting a low QB1.
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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby Goddard » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:38 pm

Luck. Shouldn't really need much explanation.

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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby Phaded » Sat Jan 20, 2018 11:46 pm

It is very close and I would say you could make a great case for why Winston should have more value. He is also 4+ years younger. I would rather have Winston myself but most will say Luck.

Luck has always been stupid overrated around these parts but he just is not that elite.

Who knows about his health on top of that. There are plenty of other and better options.

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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby heydangle » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:09 am

Yeah as long as Luck comes back healthy, it's him.

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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:35 am

In a 2QB league, I'd understand wanting Winston because there's some security knowing he will be a starting QB for the next several years even if he doesn't ever turn the corner. Even Flacco and Dalton have real value in a 2QB league.

But given this is 1QB? Give me the dude who has shown he can be elite (for fantasy, absolutely. Whether he can in real life, that's a different argument).
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HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
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HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby Suhmdog » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:41 pm

Luck all day. As an owner myself I'm not worried about him at all.

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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby RB6 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:07 am

Luck. No brainer.
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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby Valhalla » Mon Jan 22, 2018 8:54 am

HughHoney wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:58 pm Luck because he’s a much better NFL QB. Only argument I can think of for Winston is if you think Luck will never fully recover from his injury.
Agree

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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby jwb32 » Mon Jan 22, 2018 9:32 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:35 am In a 2QB league, I'd understand wanting Winston because there's some security knowing he will be a starting QB for the next several years even if he doesn't ever turn the corner. Even Flacco and Dalton have real value in a 2QB league.

But given this is 1QB? Give me the dude who has shown he can be elite (for fantasy, absolutely. Whether he can in real life, that's a different argument).
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QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
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TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04

TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:22 am

Luck by far, and I was a bit down on him. IND hiring Josh McDaniels is huge for me. It signifies that the concerns about Luck's health are minimal enough for McDaniels to accept the job, and his presence along with Chris Ballard gives me confidence in IND's offense and as a team going forward.
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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:31 am

1 QB Luck for the upside. Only reason to go Jamesis if if your team is elite and for sure for a championship, but you have utterly no quarterback and just need a guy to put up non gooseeggs to win

And yeah, I'm low on Luck, but I have Russel in both my leagues so I don't want to trade even for a discounted value the chance that his arm indeed has fallen off
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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby jpusmc0311 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:50 pm

Vcize wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:08 pm I'd rather have a medium chance of a top 3 QB playing again than a high chance of getting a low QB1.
I agree with this.
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QBs - Bridgewater, Cousins, Darnold, Rudolph
RBs - Miles Sanders, Ronald Jones, Mixon, Fournette, Mike Davis, Gio Bernard, T. Coleman, Damien Williams, Love
WRs - DHop, Chris Godwin, DK Metcalf, DJ Chark, Beckham Jr, DJ Moore, Sutton, Kirk, Edelman, Tre'Quan Smith, Anthony Miller, Van Jefferson, Jalen Guyton, Peoples-Jones, Marcus Johnson
TEs- Kittle, Hockenson, Tonyan, Njoku, Trautman
IDP: Lavonte David, Roquan Smith
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QBs - Josh Allen, Matt Ryan, Lock, Eason
RBs - Barkley, Cook, Swift, Cam Akers, Mack, K. Johnson,
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Re: Winston or Luck: who has more value now?

Postby skip » Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:12 pm

This seems a very odd question and I assume only being asked due to concerns about Luck's health. Winston's BEST finish in 3 seasons was the #14 QB which makes him a high end QB2 and those guys are very easily replaceable. These two aren't even close to being on the same tier of talent for me.
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