What he said...Cohenstoneghost28 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 9:45 pmBot101 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:18 pm This is for team in sig, roster requirements and format also in sig. Leaguemate has tentativey floated his 2.05 for Cohen. As you've probably noticed, I have little in the way of RBs but hoping to get some in this draft besides the obvious Barkley with my 1.01.
Ive heard Cohens name floated in some podcasts as a great buy low target with the new coaching staff in place. Is this a snap accept, too low or simply a fair trade? Thanks!
Cohen, Fox has been flushed, new regime coming in that is known theoretically to use pass catching running backs well. The 2.5 in a draft with a lot of depth is nice, but I think we already know that Cohen is a damn good satellite back and w/a halfway intelligent coach, it's more than likely he gets proper amount of touches. Apparently the ST's coach is already in love with his game, so hopefully, that will go further, but to me, you're 2.05 is a roll of the dice hoping you get a usable running back. Well, you already have a usable RB. To me, you're running a strong risk you end up with a bust, instead of a usable RB. To me, anyway, it's fairly easy to acquire picks like 2nd rounders in season and during the draft by trading down. Out of season, I'm trying to acquire players and/or trade down, I'm not interested in moving players at their lowest valuations for picks at their highest. Just not worth it to me.
Cohen or 2.05? UPDATED with Poll
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Team 1
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
Dynasty 10 team, 22 roster + 6 Taxi, PPR
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 Flex, 1 TE, K, Def
QB: Love, Goff, Fields
RB: Bijan, Montgomery, Kamara, Ford, K Herbert, Zeke, Mattison
WR: Jefferson, Olave, London, Ridley, Sutton, Shaheed
TE: Kincaid, Kittle, Freiermuth
K: Tucker, Sanders
DEF: CLE
Taxi: Charbs, K Mitchell, Demercado, QJ, D Douglas, W Robinson, Hooker
Picks
2024: 1.03, 3.06, 3.09, 4.09
2025: 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Team 2
Dynasty 10 team, 22 man roster + 6 Taxi, PPR, SF and TEP
1QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 Flex, 1 S Flex
QB: Allen, Goff, Watson, Jones
RB: K Williams, B Robinson, Chubb, Ford, Mostert, A Gibson, Dillon, Pierce, Zeke
WR: Olave, T Hill, Addison, D Adams, C Watson, D Johnson, G Davis, OBJ
TE: Kincaid, Kmet, Goedert
Taxi: Willis, DTR, Mims, K Miller, Demercado, Vaughn
Picks
2024: 1.08, 2.02
2025: 1, 3, 4, 5
2026: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
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10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
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Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
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Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph
12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson
1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
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Re: Cohen or 2.05? UPDATED with Poll
I voted Cohen.
A mid 2nd is a lot more of a dart throw than most are willing to admit.
I believe Cohen will get more involved, Nagy seemed like a decent playcaller. Howard is not the type of back that demands ALL the touches and I imagine they will pass to Cohen a lot giving Trub high percentage options.
A mid 2nd is a lot more of a dart throw than most are willing to admit.
I believe Cohen will get more involved, Nagy seemed like a decent playcaller. Howard is not the type of back that demands ALL the touches and I imagine they will pass to Cohen a lot giving Trub high percentage options.
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I did not expect a neck and neck poll at all.
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Sproles 2.0? Give him the right system.
12 team league (Year One) Updated Week 14 2018 Season
DYNASTY GIANTS - 1pt PPR League Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex (WR/RB/TE) K, D
Team Name: Keep It Green
QB-Cam Newton, Marcus Mariota
RB- Christian McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Tarik Cohen, Adrian Peterson, Peyton Barber
WR- Keenan Allen, Tyreek Hill, Doug Baldwin, Nelson Agholor, Marvin Jones, Dede Westbrook, John Brown, Taywan Taylor
TE-Austin Hooper, Jimmy Graham, Ian Thomas
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DYNASTY GIANTS - 1pt PPR League Qb, Rb, Rb, Wr, Wr, Te, Flex (WR/RB/TE) K, D
Team Name: Keep It Green
QB-Cam Newton, Marcus Mariota
RB- Christian McCaffrey, Aaron Jones, Tarik Cohen, Adrian Peterson, Peyton Barber
WR- Keenan Allen, Tyreek Hill, Doug Baldwin, Nelson Agholor, Marvin Jones, Dede Westbrook, John Brown, Taywan Taylor
TE-Austin Hooper, Jimmy Graham, Ian Thomas
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Re: Cohen or 2.05? UPDATED with Poll
Bears homer and I loved watching Cohen last year, and think his arrow is pointing straight up. But half point PPR and I am assuming no points for ST/return yards does hurt his value. Still, if you want a RB at 2.5 I would just keep Cohen.Phaded wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:45 am I voted Cohen.
A mid 2nd is a lot more of a dart throw than most are willing to admit.
I believe Cohen will get more involved, Nagy seemed like a decent playcaller. Howard is not the type of back that demands ALL the touches and I imagine they will pass to Cohen a lot giving Trub high percentage options.
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It looks pretty even with the poll at 20-20. I voted the 2.05.
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I'd jump at the 2.05.....especially in 10 team.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
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Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE, 1DST
QBs- Lamar, Wentz
RBs- Javonte,Sanders, Michel,Howard,JJackson,JWilson
WRs- DJM,McLaurin,Higgins,DeVonta Smith,Jeudy, OBJ,Bateman,Treadwell,Crowder
TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.1 ppc 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
1.04, 2.04, 4.04
TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr, 0.5/fd
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
WRs- Chase, DJM, Allen, Bateman, Julio, ElijahM, Mims, Crowder
TEs- Waller, Morneau,Njoku
2022 1st, 2nd (2), 3rd (2)
Re: Cohen or 2.05? UPDATED with Poll
I see what you did there.
But yes, in a 10 team, half PPR league, the pick carries much more value than a 3rd down back.
16 Team PPR 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 TE - 1 Flex
QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
'21 Picks- 1.12
QB- R.Wilson, B. Mayfield
RB- D. Cook, Zeke, J. Jacobs, J. McKinnon, A. Collins, I. Smith, B. Hill, R. Armstead, M. Boone
WR- J. Smith-Schuster, T. Boyd, C. Sutton, M. Brown, H. Ruggs, S. Miller
TE- G. Kittle, Enron, C. Herndon
'21 Picks- 1.12
Re: Cohen or 2.05? Poll*
I like Cohen, but I’m not sure his talent is going to “win out” if you mean he’s going to win the starting gig outright over a guy that posted 1,313 and 1,122 yards rushing in his first two NFL seasons. I’d take the pick here, as there will likely be a running back available at 2.05 that has as good or a better chance at being a starter/productive fantasy producer.
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Goat will turn into the goat on this one. Tarik can be an effective RB as well as receiver mismatch. Not to say that the 15th pick won't be good as well.
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I chose the pick. I traded away Cohen last season and cashed in on his hot start. No regrets. In a 0.5 PPR league, your 2.05 pick could become a future starting TE, like Dallas Goedert, who likely plays every down.
1.0 PPR/1.5 TE/2 FLEX/IDP FLEX/2 QB Dynasty Team 13-0 League Champion
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB, 1 DB/DL/LB
QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
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QB: Stafford, Big Ben, Rivers, Foles
RB: Gurley, Howard, Gore, Crowell, Edmonds, Kelly
WR: Hill, Baldwin, Fitzgerald, Woods, R. Matthews, Tr. Taylor, Westbrook, J. Moore
TE: Henry, Burton, RSJ, Watson, Jarwin
K: Lutz
DB: King, Church, Jackson, Edmunds
DL: Campbell, JPP, Dunlap, Beasley, Davenport
LB: Lee, Martinez, Davis, Leonard
2019 Picks: 1.12, 2.12, 3.02, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
2020 Picks: 1.12, 2.02, 2.12, 3.12, 4.12, 5.12
0.5 PPR/FLEX/IDP/2 QB Dynasty Team 10-3 League Runner Up
Start 2 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 2 DB, 2 DL, 2 LB
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Ryan, Garoppolo, Foles
RB: Hunt, Drake, Miller, Carson
WR: Thielen, Garcon, Crowder, Tr. Taylor, Davis, Hollins, Samuel, Golladay
TE: Henry, Engram
K: Gould
DB: Joseph, Mitchell
DL: Campbell, Garrett
LB: Davis, Martinez
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boah its a pretty close poll, dont see why, pick wins easy
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QB: Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Mike White, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Marcus Mariota
RB: Breece Hall, Tony Pollard, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR: CeDee Lamb, Garrett Wilson, Stefon Diggs, Devonta Smith, Terry McLaurin, George Pickens, Calvin Ridley, Zay Flowers, Robert Woods, John Metchie, Marvin Mims
TE: Kyle Pitts, Irv Smith, Trey McBride
K: Tyler Bass
D/ST: Browns, Washington, Packers
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Picks 2025: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Picks 2026: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
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RB: Breece Hall, Tony Pollard, Najee Harris, Joe Mixon, Rashaad Penny, Damien Harris
WR: CeDee Lamb, Garrett Wilson, Stefon Diggs, Devonta Smith, Terry McLaurin, George Pickens, Calvin Ridley, Zay Flowers, Robert Woods, John Metchie, Marvin Mims
TE: Kyle Pitts, Irv Smith, Trey McBride
K: Tyler Bass
D/ST: Browns, Washington, Packers
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Picks 2025: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Picks 2026: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
Re: Cohen or 2.05? UPDATED with Poll
Since this was bumped, he's totally off the trade now.
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15th overall pick vs Cohen? Come on now that's the pick all day. He's flashy and fun but that doesn't translate to FF success.
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