My offer for 1.1

[jeaton6]

12 Team PPR with bonuses for return yards. Going after 1.1. Keep 15 so the later picks have more value than normal and I have abundance of Picks I need to consolidate (11 in first 4 rounds and rosters only move to 23 at rookie draft)

How does this offer look?

Give: 1.4, 1.6, McKinnon, 3.11, 4.11
Get: 1.1, 2.1

[NY CAT]

I have the 1.1 in my league and this offer does nothing for me.

A starting point but not enough to seal the deal.

[ArrylT]

Where I own the 1.01 I'd likely do that deal but I have a feeling most 1.01 owners are salivating over either Barkley or trading the 1.01 for a kings ransom.

[RB6]

Not very good.

[jeaton6]

Not very good.

What part of it? McKinnon and the later picks should be worth the 2.1. So 1.4 and 1.6 isn’t good offer?

[Vcize]

These kind of trades will have more power later in the offseason. Everyone talks about the 1.1 value increasing as rookie drafts approach but its the other 1st round picks that are going to increase more. They usually increase once we start being able to put names to them, etc. We already know what 1.1 is, it's already near its peak value. Picks like 1.4 and 1.6 will have more value when people know more definitively who they will be able to get there.

[akbfrosty]

Not very good.

What part of it? McKinnon and the later picks should be worth the 2.1. So 1.4 and 1.6 isn’t good offer?

I don't agree with this. The picks aren't that valuable, and I'd argue even less valuable since you have so many at this point in time. McKinnon is very ancillary in a trade that involves 1.01.

I'd be looking at this as 1.01 and 2.01 for 1.04 and 1.06 which is a hard pass.

[Goddard]

Doubt this gets accepted, but worth a try I guess.

[jeaton6]

Not very good.

What part of it? McKinnon and the later picks should be worth the 2.1. So 1.4 and 1.6 isn’t good offer?

I don't agree with this. The picks aren't that valuable, and I'd argue even less valuable since you have so many at this point in time. McKinnon is very ancillary in a trade that involves 1.01.

I'd be looking at this as 1.01 and 2.01 for 1.04 and 1.06 which is a hard pass.

Did you read the format? Keep 15 players + Return Yards. There will be players dropped that would not be on a normal WW that will make later picks more valuable (the late 3 is more like a late 2). The picks may be less valuable to me because I have so many (but right now not really) but that doesn’t change the value of them to someone else.

[Goddard]

Did you read the format? Keep 15 players + Return Yards. There will be players dropped that would not be on a normal WW that will make later picks more valuable (the late 3 is more like a late 2). The picks may be less valuable to me because I have so many (but right now not really) but that doesn’t change the value of them to someone else.

Problem is, in a 12 team league where 15 players are kept, that's roughly 180 of the top players (give or take based on team depth). The players being cut are most likely not going to be worth 2nd round rookie picks, so I wouldn't necessarily equate a 3rd to a 2nd. In a deal where you're trying to get value like the 1.01, those later picks and players like McKinnon aren't going to move the needle much.

[briank]

Where I own the 1.01 I'd likely do that deal but I have a feeling most 1.01 owners are salivating over either Barkley or trading the 1.01 for a kings ransom.

You should be able to get more than that, but it might look good to those who haven't delved into the draft info yet.

[smbkrypt24]

It is a weak offer. Yes I read the format. Take off the 2.01 to be taken seriously.

[prinefan]

It is a weak offer. Yes I read the format. Take off the 2.01 to be taken seriously.

Me too. Take off the 2.01 and it'd be closer. Still a pass though.

[jeaton6]

Did you read the format? Keep 15 players + Return Yards. There will be players dropped that would not be on a normal WW that will make later picks more valuable (the late 3 is more like a late 2). The picks may be less valuable to me because I have so many (but right now not really) but that doesn’t change the value of them to someone else.

Problem is, in a 12 team league where 15 players are kept, that's roughly 180 of the top players (give or take based on team depth). The players being cut are most likely not going to be worth 2nd round rookie picks, so I wouldn't necessarily equate a 3rd to a 2nd. In a deal where you're trying to get value like the 1.01, those later picks and players like McKinnon aren't going to move the needle much.

Based on the analysis I’ve done cuts will include these players (assuming no trades between now and the SB): Joe Williams, Mack Hollins, Taywan Taylor, Chris Carson, ASJ, Kittle, Breida, Kizer, Gallman, Ware, Powell, Gore, Cole, Kizer, Walker, Djax, Jonnu, Butt, McGuire, Yeldon, Ekeler, Javorius, Stewart, Richardson, Zay, Martin, Shaheen, Mike Davis, Ginn, Ravens (17 PPG in this format), Jordan Matthews

Not a stretch that some dynasty players would value some of these guys and pick them ahead of late 2nd round rookies thereby enabling a late 3 to possibly nab you a late 2 rookie.

All said I agree McKinnon and picks don’t move the needle thus removing them and the 2.1 would make sense.

1.4 and 1.6 doesn’t feel like weak sauce to me but perhaps I’m being too optimistic

[colonnaj94]

12 Team PPR with bonuses for return yards. Going after 1.1. Keep 15 so the later picks have more value than normal and I have abundance of Picks I need to consolidate (11 in first 4 rounds and rosters only move to 23 at rookie draft)

How does this offer look?

Give: 1.4, 1.6, McKinnon, 3.11, 4.11
Get: 1.1, 2.1

As an owner of 1.01 in a league, this is not really close at all.. For a reference, about a month ago, I was offered Hunt, JuJu and a late 1st for 1.01 in a 32 team .5 PPR and I rejected that (For now, I might see if I Can get more from that owner as the draft gets closer) so you should be able to get more proven players for the 1.01