OJ Howard Value Check

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OJ Howard Value Check

Postby skiptomybru » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:04 am

Solid rookie campaign. Trending towards even more playing time next season, regardless of Brate. Where do you guys see his worth in terms of picks/players? Thanks
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RB -- Saquon Barkley | Chris Carson | Miles Sanders | Gus Edwards | Ty Montgomery | Malcolm Brown | Tony Pollard
WR -- Michael Thomas | Allen Robinson | Brandin Cooks | Josh Reynolds | Van Jefferson | Darnell Mooney | Chris Conley | Justin Watson | Quintez Cephus
TE -- OJ Howard | Delanie Walker | Tyler Eifert | Will Dissly
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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby briank » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:32 am

I don't think he has lost value. He had a great year for a rookie TE and I believe Brate is a FA. I'd say 1.05.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby bot » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:44 am

I have him around the 1.08 right now

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby PennyLenny » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:46 am

If Brate ends up leaving via free agency which should happen i think Howard is set up for a monster campaign in 2018. He came on strong towards the end of the season and Winston loves targeting his TE especially in the redzone. As mentioned above probably right around 1.05 in value as far as picks.

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:18 am

Same as last year, in that 5-7 range. Right after the first solid batch of RB/WR prospects wherever that line is
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2022: 1-8
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QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
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TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
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QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:01 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:18 am Same as last year, in that 5-7 range. Right after the first solid batch of RB/WR prospects wherever that line is
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby bigbuck22 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:10 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:18 am Same as last year, in that 5-7 range. Right after the first solid batch of RB/WR prospects wherever that line is
I would agree, it'll be right behind the line of RB/WR prospects likely in the 6-10 range. Brate is a RFA so he's not guaranteed to leave. They could put a high tender on him to ensure he sticks around. I'd put the chances around 50/50 he leaves. That said, Howard could be a nice player to have in the coming years.

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby DLF3000 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:16 am

Value's good, not great, while Brate's there. I'd hold, but if Brate stays long-term on a reasonable contract, I'm out on both.
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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby RB6 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:24 am

Mid 1st.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby 21TD » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:01 am

i would say 1.06-1.08ish. Brate caps the upside

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby jetsfan5757 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:51 pm

Where is he in your TE ranks?

Kelce/Gronk
Ertz
Olsen
Engram
Graham/Henry/OJ Howard
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)

QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble

K (1): M. Crosby

DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby briank » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:21 pm

Kelce
Gronk
Ertz
Engram
Henry
Howard/Njoku
Everyone else
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby Goddard » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:32 pm

Mid/late 1st.

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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby Mjvb5 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:19 am

briank wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:21 pm Kelce
Gronk
Ertz
Engram
Henry
Howard/Njoku
Everyone else
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Re: OJ Howard Value Check

Postby Seventy5 » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:08 am

Everybody preaches patience with young TEs, but very few practice it.

Realistically he should be valued the same as he was last off-season, which for me falls somewhere in the tier two of this class (1.04-1.08 range depending on landing spots and ones belief in Howard).

With that said, he falls into that category of players where I wouldn't give an early-mid 1st for him, but I probably wouldn't trade him away for a mid-1st where I do own him. There is obvious risk and upside here, but I feel like the odds of him outright busting are pretty slim.
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QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
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QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
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