Garoppolo value check
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Garoppolo value check
12 team 1QB league, what is Jimmy G's value in 2018 picks?
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Re: Garoppolo value check
I'd say late first to early second personally.
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2nd season: 7-6 (1st rd exit)
3rd season: 6-7 (Missed playoffs)
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.5 PPR, 6pt TD, 4pt TD Pass, 25 roster, 14 team (6 Playoffs), 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1LB, 1DL, 1DB, 1 Flex IDP:
QB: Jackson, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Gurley, Guice
WR: Cooper, Golladay, Metcalf, Campbell, Boykin, Isabella, Ross, Dulin
TE: Kittle, I. Thomas
DL: J. Bosa
LB: Darius Leonard, Barrett, Esche
DB: Collins
Draft capital: 1.02, 1.06, 4.12, 5.04, 6.04, 7.04, 7.09
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1st season: 7-7 (Missed playoffs)
2nd season: 7-6 (1st rd exit)
3rd season: 6-7 (Missed playoffs)
4th season: 11-2 (League Champ)
5th season: 9-4 (1st rd exit)
.5 PPR, 6pt TD, 4pt TD Pass, 25 roster, 14 team (6 Playoffs), 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1LB, 1DL, 1DB, 1 Flex IDP:
QB: Jackson, Darnold
RB: Mixon, Gurley, Guice
WR: Cooper, Golladay, Metcalf, Campbell, Boykin, Isabella, Ross, Dulin
TE: Kittle, I. Thomas
DL: J. Bosa
LB: Darius Leonard, Barrett, Esche
DB: Collins
Draft capital: 1.02, 1.06, 4.12, 5.04, 6.04, 7.04, 7.09
Re: Garoppolo value check
Owners will want a 1st, buyers will want to pay an early 2nd at most.
Re: Garoppolo value check
I'd buy him at 2.01-2.04 and I'd sell him for that or better if I had QB depth. I think he's going to be a good NFL QB but not yet certain he's going to be a fantasy juggernaut. He has great intangibles, not quite ideal size at 6'2", is a great leader it seems, and can make all the throws. He'll be a highly discussed player this offseason as will his weapons.
14 TM / Devy / SuperFlex / TEP
1 Q / 2 RB / 2 WR / 1 TE / 1 SF / 3 F / 1 DT / 2 DE / 3 LB / 2 CB / 2 S / 1 F
QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, Jaylen Warren, Trey Benson, James Conner, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Marquise Brown, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Aaron Donald, Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
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QB: Jordan Love, Trevor Lawrence
RB: Zamir White, Jaylen Warren, Trey Benson, James Conner, Will Shipley
WR: Michael Pittman, Puka Nacua, Drake London, Marquise Brown, Christian Kirk, Josh Palmer
TE: Trey McBride, Jake Ferguson, Noah Gray
PK: Justin Tucker, Jason Myers
DT: Aaron Donald, Grover Stewart, Devonte Wyatt
DE: Alex Highsmith, Jonathan Cooper, Gregory Rousseau, Matt Judon, Baron Browning
LB: Fred Warner, Dre Greenlaw, Ernest Jones, Alex Anzalone, Jack Campbell
CB: L'Jarius Sneed, Deommodore Lenoir, Taron Johnson
S: Derwin James, Rayshawn Jenkins, Talanoa Hufanga, Kareem Jackson
DEVY: RB Nick Singleton PSU
2024 DEVY DEPLETED PICKS: 1.11, 1.13, 2.03, 2.05, 2.13, 3.01, 3.07, 3.10, 3.12, 4.03, 4.11, 4.15, 5.01, 5.02
Re: Garoppolo value check
Hard to gauge value with qbs in 1 qb leagues sometimes. I couldn’t hardly give Cousins away despite 2 straight top 5 years and 3 top 10. I would need a mid to late first to sell JimmyG. Very high on him.
Re: Garoppolo value check
I’d move him for 2.1-2.7. I wouldn’t pay more than an early 3. Fools gold.
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QB: Allen, Watson, Prescott, Purdy, Darnold, Ridder
RB: Taylor, Ekeler, Mixon, Cook, Mattison, Kelley, Blackshear
WR: Adams, Diggs, Devonta Smith, Diontae Johnson, Richie James, Van Jefferson, Landry, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Ruckert
PK: Bass, Dicker
DEF: Ravens, Jets, Chiefs, Bucs
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Team 2 (Shakeweight): 12 Team PPR: QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/Flex 25 Roster, 3 man rookie taxi
QB: Burrow, Cousins
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Jacobs, Gibson, Dillon, Patterson, Mason, Blackshear, Hilliard
WR: Tyreek, Juju, Diontae Johnson, Thielen, Bateman, Claypool, Landry, Corey Davis, Thornton
TE: Kelce, Hockenson, Engram
PK: Gano, Succop
DEF: Jets, Bucs
Taxi: Airton, Likely, Ferguson
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**6 straight championships**
QB: Allen, Watson, Prescott, Purdy, Darnold, Ridder
RB: Taylor, Ekeler, Mixon, Cook, Mattison, Kelley, Blackshear
WR: Adams, Diggs, Devonta Smith, Diontae Johnson, Richie James, Van Jefferson, Landry, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Ruckert
PK: Bass, Dicker
DEF: Ravens, Jets, Chiefs, Bucs
2023 Picks: 2.5
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QB: Burrow, Cousins
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Jacobs, Gibson, Dillon, Patterson, Mason, Blackshear, Hilliard
WR: Tyreek, Juju, Diontae Johnson, Thielen, Bateman, Claypool, Landry, Corey Davis, Thornton
TE: Kelce, Hockenson, Engram
PK: Gano, Succop
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Re: Garoppolo value check
Depends on scoring rules but I’d be hesitant to pay more than a 2nd. If your going to give up a first I think there are more proven options you could get for the same price
Re: Garoppolo value check
He's a player who I think we'll see very little movement, owners will always want more than buyers will be willing to pay.
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Rodgers GB | McCarron CIN | McCown NYJ
Hyde SF | Mack IND | Foreman HOU | Thompson WAS | Darkwa NYG | McKissic SEA
Adams GB | Hilton IND | Thielen MIN | Baldwin SEA | Agholor PHI | Richardson SEA | Samuel CAR | Sanu ATL | Jo.Brown ARI | Hollins PHI | Stewart NYJ | Carroo MIA | Latimer DEN | Robinson KC | Moore BAL
Kelce KC | Henry LAC
2018 Picks
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2019 Picks
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Hyde SF | Mack IND | Foreman HOU | Thompson WAS | Darkwa NYG | McKissic SEA
Adams GB | Hilton IND | Thielen MIN | Baldwin SEA | Agholor PHI | Richardson SEA | Samuel CAR | Sanu ATL | Jo.Brown ARI | Hollins PHI | Stewart NYJ | Carroo MIA | Latimer DEN | Robinson KC | Moore BAL
Kelce KC | Henry LAC
2018 Picks
1.06 | 2.11
2019 Picks
1st | 2nd | 2nd | 4th | 5th
Re: Garoppolo value check
I'm in talks to pay the 1.11 for him but I'm only doing that because I know I can flip him to a huge 49rs fan for more. If it weren't for that I wouldn't pay more than an early to mid 2nd until he has more than a couple good games.
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RB: Bij. Robinson, K. Williams, N. Chubb, D. Henry, A. Kamara, A. Gibson, C. Edwards-Helaire, L. Fournette
WR: J. Chase, C. Ridley, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, B. Cooks, Z. Jones, T. Atwell, C. Austin III
TE: M. Andrews, G. Kittle, C. Otton
PK: J. Tucker
D/ST: Streaming
Taxi:
2024 Picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2026 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
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QB: P. Mahomes
RB: Bij. Robinson, K. Williams, N. Chubb, D. Henry, A. Kamara, A. Gibson, C. Edwards-Helaire, L. Fournette
WR: J. Chase, C. Ridley, D. Hopkins, M. Evans, B. Cooks, Z. Jones, T. Atwell, C. Austin III
TE: M. Andrews, G. Kittle, C. Otton
PK: J. Tucker
D/ST: Streaming
Taxi:
2024 Picks: 1.01, 1.02
2025 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th
2026 Picks: 1st, 1st, 3rd, 4th
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Re: Garoppolo value check
i dont get the hype. i wouldnt pay more than a late 2nd or a 3rd.
im also a big time "i dont care who my qb is" in a 1 qb league type of guy.
whats he done to make people think hes worth a 1st? i own him in 3 leagues (took late in start ups knowing his time was coming) and im getting tons of interest and its semi shocking
im also a big time "i dont care who my qb is" in a 1 qb league type of guy.
whats he done to make people think hes worth a 1st? i own him in 3 leagues (took late in start ups knowing his time was coming) and im getting tons of interest and its semi shocking
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
Re: Garoppolo value check
I will invest in my starting QB in a 1QB league because I want a difference maker. I won't settle for middling options. Garoppolo in not in that tier and not work that level of investment. I'd be fine with him as my backup but not my weekly guy. Voted for the early/middle 2nd because that is where I believe his value is whether or not I'm willing to pay it.
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Re: Garoppolo value check
I disagree. Granted the sampling is very small but he has shown there is a good chance he can throw up 25pts a game with minimal talent. With that coach and if they add any descent talent I think he could be a top 5 QB for years. I think he will get you an extra 3-5 pts at qb position next year vs most of the 2nd tier guys.skip wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:08 am I will invest in my starting QB in a 1QB league because I want a difference maker. I won't settle for middling options. Garoppolo in not in that tier and not work that level of investment. I'd be fine with him as my backup but not my weekly guy. Voted for the early/middle 2nd because that is where I believe his value is whether or not I'm willing to pay it.
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Re: Garoppolo value check
I don't know if he'll be top 5, but he definitely looks like a top 75-100 start up pick now with top 5 potential. The yardage totals he had w/zero weapons to speak of was insanely impressive. Pats apparently loved him too. I'm in a weird spot because I own him in a ton of places as a cheap way to address waiting on QB that's finally paid off for me and so while I'd like to offload him for some value, I value having a cheap solution at QB more than I do the late 1st or early to mid 2nd which has that trademark low hit rate (I think random 2nd rounders are at about 27% in terms of hitting).
I'd definitely liked to recoup some value since I got him quite cheap, but after dealing with so many injuries and issues at QB while streaming or owning Luck (generally the two approaches I've used), having Garoppolo just makes more sense to me. I would say if you're strong at the position you should trade him, perhaps in a package.
In terms of player for player trades, it appears that these are the guys 10 ahead and 10 below them:
Cobb <
Burkhead <
McKinnon <
Jamaal Williams +<
Cameron Meredith >
Winston >
C. Thompson
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Garoppolo
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Reed <
M. Lee <
Graham <
Hogan =<
Perine <
Olsen =<
Goodwin <
E. Sanders >
G. Bernard =<
Edelman <
Z. Jones =<
I'd definitely liked to recoup some value since I got him quite cheap, but after dealing with so many injuries and issues at QB while streaming or owning Luck (generally the two approaches I've used), having Garoppolo just makes more sense to me. I would say if you're strong at the position you should trade him, perhaps in a package.
In terms of player for player trades, it appears that these are the guys 10 ahead and 10 below them:
Cobb <
Burkhead <
McKinnon <
Jamaal Williams +<
Cameron Meredith >
Winston >
C. Thompson
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Garoppolo
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Reed <
M. Lee <
Graham <
Hogan =<
Perine <
Olsen =<
Goodwin <
E. Sanders >
G. Bernard =<
Edelman <
Z. Jones =<
Re: Garoppolo value check
I've just had this offer come in for Jimmy. I think I could knock a third off, or swap for my 3.12 for one of them, but got me stumped. I've obviously held him for a while as I think he could be pretty special, but is this just good value? It's a one QB league after all
Give: jimmy G + 3.05 + 3.10
Get: 1.11
My current picks 2.12, 3.05, 3.10, 3.12, 5.12
Otherside: 1.11 + 3x5ths
Give: jimmy G + 3.05 + 3.10
Get: 1.11
My current picks 2.12, 3.05, 3.10, 3.12, 5.12
Otherside: 1.11 + 3x5ths
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QB Watson, A Richardson, O' Connel (TS)
RB Gibbs, Akers, Dillon Carter, Bigsby, Chase Brown, Mcintosh, Tucker, Hull (TS)
WR Metcalf, DJ Moore, Addison, Meyers, Van Jefferson, Collins, Claypool, Mingo (TS), Hyatt (TS), Wilson (TS)
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RB Gibbs, Akers, Dillon Carter, Bigsby, Chase Brown, Mcintosh, Tucker, Hull (TS)
WR Metcalf, DJ Moore, Addison, Meyers, Van Jefferson, Collins, Claypool, Mingo (TS), Hyatt (TS), Wilson (TS)
TE Higbee, Freirmuth, Otton (TS)
K Joseph
DE/DT Hunter
LB Franklin Simmons
C/S James
1.01, 1.04
Re: Garoppolo value check
Easy pass for me. I don’t think it’s good value and I’d be looking to build around Jimmy G with your QB situation. Big Ben may not be too far from retirement.Pet_Smith wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:55 am I've just had this offer come in for Jimmy. I think I could knock a third off, or swap for my 3.12 for one of them, but got me stumped. I've obviously held him for a while as I think he could be pretty special, but is this just good value? It's a one QB league after all
Give: jimmy G + 3.05 + 3.10
Get: 1.11
My current picks 2.12, 3.05, 3.10, 3.12, 5.12
Otherside: 1.11 + 3x5ths
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