Duke Johnson

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Duke Johnson

Postby HOFC12 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:36 pm

Sorry guys if this is a repeat. Wanting to get a value on Duke Johnson. Got offered 2.4 in 2018 draft. League is lot. Any thoughts?

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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:40 pm

I would sell Johnson for the 2.04.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby thomasscheeks » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:01 pm

Honestly idk if I would.

Value wise it's right, but I heard rumors the Browns plan to get him even more involved in the offense. He's a very nice depth piece in PPR. Plus with the Browns most likely taking a QB with the first overall pick (or I hope at least for the sake of their fans), their offense could finally get something going next year. But, as we all know, it's the Browns..
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby PigeonBoys » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:02 pm

I would also sell at that price but I’d try and see if you can improve your draft capital. Johnson coming off superb year and he’s a valuable asset in ppr. But everyone thinks Barkley will be going to them soon so may want to unload while he’s still got value.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Trevormortis » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:07 pm

Fair value
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Goddard » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:22 pm

I'd have to wait till the pick was on the clock and I knew who I was getting at 2.04. Duke is pretty underrated and a nice RB3/flex to have in ppr leagues.

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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Dynasty19 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:06 pm

I’d wait till draft but seems fair right now
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:26 pm

As an owner, I'd still rate him a "hold" for that price.

Better things are on the horizon for Duke. At least I believe so.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Tyrober » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:37 pm

Duke Johnson was very quietly the RB11 in PPR the year. I think he gets more involved in the offense next year unless they draft Barkley. I would not sell for the 2.04

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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:46 pm

Tyrober wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:37 pm Duke Johnson was very quietly the RB11 in PPR the year. I think he gets more involved in the offense next year unless they draft Barkley. I would not sell for the 2.04
Yes, but during a season where they had no viable receivers for much of the year. I highly doubt Johnson will see the same target share with Josh Gordon back now, Corey Coleman healthy (maybe), David Njoku more experienced, and potentially adding additional RB and/or WR talent via the draft.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby slaughterrt » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:16 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:46 pm
Tyrober wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:37 pm Duke Johnson was very quietly the RB11 in PPR the year. I think he gets more involved in the offense next year unless they draft Barkley. I would not sell for the 2.04
Yes, but during a season where they had no viable receivers for much of the year. I highly doubt Johnson will see the same target share with Josh Gordon back now, Corey Coleman healthy (maybe), David Njoku more experienced, and potentially adding additional RB and/or WR talent via the draft.
His targets may regress a bit, but I don’t expect the Browns to suddenly become a competent passing team. Dump offs and screens to Duke are still gonna be in the plans.

And who at 2.04 do you guys think are gonna come in and put up comparable numbers to Duke?

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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby bot » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:29 pm

Goddard wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:22 pm I'd have to wait till the pick was on the clock and I knew who I was getting at 2.04. Duke is pretty underrated and a nice RB3/flex to have in ppr leagues.
This. He was the RB11 in PPR I believe

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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby psfox2010 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:59 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:46 pm
Tyrober wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:37 pm Duke Johnson was very quietly the RB11 in PPR the year. I think he gets more involved in the offense next year unless they draft Barkley. I would not sell for the 2.04
Yes, but during a season where they had no viable receivers for much of the year. I highly doubt Johnson will see the same target share with Josh Gordon back now, Corey Coleman healthy (maybe), David Njoku more experienced, and potentially adding additional RB and/or WR talent via the draft.
His targets and production stayed the same with all those guys playing. There's no way I'd sell him for the 2.04. He's currently a hold in my opinion. He's one of those players you're unlikely to ever get true value for, so he's more valuable to your tean to just keep. He was the RB11 in PPR and should fetch more than the 2.04.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Suckmyvick » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:35 pm

He is always under utilized, I would hold for sure.
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Re: Duke Johnson

Postby Factory of Sadness » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:46 pm

I'd hold I think. If the Browns do draft a true feature back, you might waste a year, but Duke is too good at what he does to have to stick around beyond next year. There's a good sized role as a PPR back for him somewhere even if it isn't Cleveland.


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