That's fair. But I'd argue he showed fairly well considering the horrible situation he was in. Most, including myself, never expected huge numbers this year and said it would take a year or two. Fortunately (or unfortunately for Mixon), there were several rookie RBs that produced well this year, so if you had a down year, you were looked at as a bust. I think we're all too quick to make judgments on rookies after one year.skip wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:57 pmI don't disagree. But I also never had Mixon rated as highly as some did either. I favored both CMC and Cook with Mixon being no better than 1.04-1.05 which is why I said it depends on your view of Mixon. I was hoping to see this season what some (like yourself) really liked about him and I didn't see it. Of all the rookie RBs, he was one of the more disappointing this season. I still think he has plenty of upside.Goddard wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:26 pmTo be fair, same could be said for Corey Davis and even Coleman from a year ago...a guy you defended a lot during the off-season. So I don't see why Mixon's value would take a hit when you yourself said Coleman's shouldn't have a year ago.skip wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 9:11 am This depends entirely on your view of Mixon. He didn't look impressive at all to me this season - nothing remotely to justify his draft position a year ago. My valuation of the pieces would be 1.01 > Thielen > Mixon. It's pretty even, just depending on whether you favor the bird-in-the-hand approach.
Mixon and Thielen for the #1
Re: Mixon and Thielen for the #1
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Re: Mixon and Thielen for the #1
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Re: Mixon and Thielen for the #1
x-10000000.
This is a huge underpay for 1.1. No one is taking that deal. All of you saying otherwise either don’t have the 1.1 or don’t value picks, certainly not the 1.1 this year. Gio has looked better than mixon for most of this year and there are no guarantees he will be the workhorse next year (Gio with 60 fewer touches, same TDs and equivalent yardage, 4/5 games at 5 YPC or more when double digit carries (only 2/8 for Mixon—0 between 3.5-5 YPC). Signed for 3 more years. Looks like a timeshare to me again.
Team 1 (Sunday Collisions): 12 Team PPR: QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/Flex 27 Roster
**6 straight championships**
QB: Allen, Watson, Prescott, Purdy, Darnold, Ridder
RB: Taylor, Ekeler, Mixon, Cook, Mattison, Kelley, Blackshear
WR: Adams, Diggs, Devonta Smith, Diontae Johnson, Richie James, Van Jefferson, Landry, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Ruckert
PK: Bass, Dicker
DEF: Ravens, Jets, Chiefs, Bucs
2023 Picks: 2.5
Team 2 (Shakeweight): 12 Team PPR: QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/Flex 25 Roster, 3 man rookie taxi
QB: Burrow, Cousins
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Jacobs, Gibson, Dillon, Patterson, Mason, Blackshear, Hilliard
WR: Tyreek, Juju, Diontae Johnson, Thielen, Bateman, Claypool, Landry, Corey Davis, Thornton
TE: Kelce, Hockenson, Engram
PK: Gano, Succop
DEF: Jets, Bucs
Taxi: Airton, Likely, Ferguson
2023 Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.10, 2,3, 3.10, 4.10, 5.10
**6 straight championships**
QB: Allen, Watson, Prescott, Purdy, Darnold, Ridder
RB: Taylor, Ekeler, Mixon, Cook, Mattison, Kelley, Blackshear
WR: Adams, Diggs, Devonta Smith, Diontae Johnson, Richie James, Van Jefferson, Landry, Duvernay
TE: Kelce, Ruckert
PK: Bass, Dicker
DEF: Ravens, Jets, Chiefs, Bucs
2023 Picks: 2.5
Team 2 (Shakeweight): 12 Team PPR: QB/2 RB/3 WR/TE/Flex 25 Roster, 3 man rookie taxi
QB: Burrow, Cousins
RB: McCaffrey, Barkley, Jacobs, Gibson, Dillon, Patterson, Mason, Blackshear, Hilliard
WR: Tyreek, Juju, Diontae Johnson, Thielen, Bateman, Claypool, Landry, Corey Davis, Thornton
TE: Kelce, Hockenson, Engram
PK: Gano, Succop
DEF: Jets, Bucs
Taxi: Airton, Likely, Ferguson
2023 Picks: 1.3, 1.5, 1.10, 2,3, 3.10, 4.10, 5.10
Re: Mixon and Thielen for the #1
I'd much rather have Mixon and Thielen. This is why it's smarter to go after a guy like Mixon now - who has owners who might be down on him - rather than give up a ransom for the 1.01.
TEAM ONE
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2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
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QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
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2020 & 2021 CHAMPS (2022 Runner Up)
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 23 Man Active Roster / 3 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - L. Jackson, Cousins
RB - Swift, Ekeler, K. Mitchell, A. Mattison, D. Foreman, C. Rodriguez, E. Mitchell, S, Tucker, J. Wilson
WR - Amon Ra, D. Smith, M. Pittman, DK Metcalf, Jayden Reed, D. Douglas, K. Shakir, D. Wicks, T. Tucker, T. Scott
TE - Kelce, C. Otton, I. Likely, D. Washington
K - B. Aubrey
DEF - Eagles, Dolphins
Re: Mixon and Thielen for the #1
This is the kind of deal where Mixon and Thielen is the better side of the deal, but the Barkley hype is so out of control the 1.1 owner would probably turn it down if you offered
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
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2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
Re: Mixon and Thielen for the #1
As an owner of the 1.01, I would not accept it. I fall on the side that thinks Mixon is overrated. He's been mediocre all year with 3 5 ypa. All he needs to do is have one more mediocre year or beat one more girlfriend and his career will be done. If owned any part of him I would sell him now while everyone still thinks he has any value.
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12 team league, PPR
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: D. Prescott, K. Cousins,
RB: D. Cook, M. Gordon, T. Cohen, D. Guice, R. Penny J. Mckinnon, L. Murray, C. Edmonds, D. Harris
WR: O. Beckham, D. Adams, K. Allen, J. Edleman, O. Johnson
TE: E. Ebron, G. Kittle
Team 2
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: Mayfield, Winston,
RB: D. Cook, N. Chubb, K. Johnson, G. Bernard, N. Hines
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, A. Brown D. Funchess, Z. Jones, D. Moncrief, M Bryant
TE: G. Kittle, E. Ebron, R.Gronkowski
12 team league, PPR
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: D. Prescott, K. Cousins,
RB: D. Cook, M. Gordon, T. Cohen, D. Guice, R. Penny J. Mckinnon, L. Murray, C. Edmonds, D. Harris
WR: O. Beckham, D. Adams, K. Allen, J. Edleman, O. Johnson
TE: E. Ebron, G. Kittle
Team 2
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: Mayfield, Winston,
RB: D. Cook, N. Chubb, K. Johnson, G. Bernard, N. Hines
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, A. Brown D. Funchess, Z. Jones, D. Moncrief, M Bryant
TE: G. Kittle, E. Ebron, R.Gronkowski
Re: Mixon and Thielen for the #1
I see this from people all of the time, and I just don't understand it. When has this really mattered with elite RB prospects? I understand that elite is a subjective term, so I'm more so speaking to Barkley. I get that it can accentuate one's value or upside, but it shouldn't be a concern, to me.Favrezilla wrote: ↑Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:11 pm I wouldn't give up more than Mixon for 1.1 - at least not now without knowing where Barkley/guice/etc are going....
Also both those guys could blow out their knee at a bowl game, combine or pro day. You know where Mixon is and he has produced with a terrible line and offense in flux.
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