KA for Cooper + ?

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Which add?

KA = Cooper + late 18 1
6
16%
Cooper + D Parker
5
14%
Cooper + 19’ 1 & 19’ 3
0
No votes
KA = Cooper
4
11%
Don’t get Cooper
22
59%
 
Total votes: 37

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KA for Cooper + ?

Postby OPPO23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:33 pm

PPR 14 Team - I own KA, playing for 5th at this point
12 Team League: 2QB - 1 PPR
QB: M.Rayn, P. Manning, Hoyer, Foles, C. Wentz (PHI), D. Prescott (DAL)
RB: A. Abdullah, M. Gordon, L. Murray, A. Ellington, CJ2K, Blount, J. Howard (CHI), T. Ervin (HOU)
WR: Julio, AJG, DGB, T. Smith, J. Hunter, M. Wheaton, M. Mithcell (NE), P. Cooper (RAM), C. Latimer, P. Richardson
TE: K. Rudolph, R. Rodgers

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QB: M.Ryan, A.Dalton
RB: A. Abdullah, Lat. Murray, Buck Allen, D. Freeman, A. Blue, S. Ware
WR: Nuk, M.Floyd(AZ), D.Adams, J. Matthews, J. Landry, P. Dorsett, D. Funchess, B. Perriman, M. Jones, R. Matthews
TE: J. Graham, R.Rodgers, J.Amaro

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QB:Luck, Hasslebeck,B. Osweiler, Hoyer, A. Davis
RB: Foster, Vereen, Buck Allen, CAPayne, A.Abdullah
WR: K.Allen, Cobb, AJG, JMatt, TWill, Inman
TE: O. Daniels, V. Green, Rudolph

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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby Goddard » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:39 pm

I'm assuming this is Amari and not Kupp. Either way, I'd keep Allen over all those options, but it's obviously much closer if it's Amari.

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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby Tvols » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:43 pm

Allen and not all that close

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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby OPPO23 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:44 pm

Amari is correct
12 Team League: 2QB - 1 PPR
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RB: A. Abdullah, M. Gordon, L. Murray, A. Ellington, CJ2K, Blount, J. Howard (CHI), T. Ervin (HOU)
WR: Julio, AJG, DGB, T. Smith, J. Hunter, M. Wheaton, M. Mithcell (NE), P. Cooper (RAM), C. Latimer, P. Richardson
TE: K. Rudolph, R. Rodgers

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QB: M.Ryan, A.Dalton
RB: A. Abdullah, Lat. Murray, Buck Allen, D. Freeman, A. Blue, S. Ware
WR: Nuk, M.Floyd(AZ), D.Adams, J. Matthews, J. Landry, P. Dorsett, D. Funchess, B. Perriman, M. Jones, R. Matthews
TE: J. Graham, R.Rodgers, J.Amaro

14 Team Superflex: PPR
QB:Luck, Hasslebeck,B. Osweiler, Hoyer, A. Davis
RB: Foster, Vereen, Buck Allen, CAPayne, A.Abdullah
WR: K.Allen, Cobb, AJG, JMatt, TWill, Inman
TE: O. Daniels, V. Green, Rudolph

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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby vixen » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:47 pm

crap, i didn't notice an option to not get cooper....i would keep allen as well...but if you trade him i would probably want cooper, parker and the 1st round pick
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby scorpion » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:06 pm

Goddard wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:39 pm
I'm assuming this is Amari and not Kupp. Either way, I'd keep Allen over all those options, but it's obviously much closer if it's Amari.
I was thinking Kupp, but either way you're correct in your assessment.
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby RAB » Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:54 pm

I'd take Cooper Kupp over Amari Cooper at this point
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby RB6 » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:34 am

Hold KA.
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:11 am

RAB wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:54 pm
I'd take Cooper Kupp over Amari Cooper at this point
Yeah keep Keenan Allen lol...I believe I said this a year or more ago on the forums. Amari Cooper is a slightly more talented Randall Cobb.
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby thomasscheeks » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:37 pm

Imagine this thread a year ago. Cooper was worth 10 Allens :lol:

Anywho, I own both and obviously value Keenan much higher at this point. Just keep him and enjoy those targets
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby HughHoney » Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:57 pm

thomasscheeks wrote:
Fri Dec 15, 2017 1:37 pm
Imagine this thread a year ago. Cooper was worth 10 Allens :lol:
And it may reverse again in a year or two. Before last season I valued Mike Evans as my WR4 behind OBJ, Sammy, and Cooper when I traded him for DJ. Two years ago Hopkins outscored Evans by over 100 fantasy points. Last year Evans did him. And this year Hopkins did again.
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby Seventy5 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:26 am

They are equals long-term. Ebb and flow
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby M-Dub » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:41 am

Seventy5 wrote:
Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:26 am
They are equals long-term. Ebb and flow
No, they’re not. Over the past three seasons, Keenan has been a top 5 WR when he’s on the field. Cooper was a mid-range WR2 for two years and is barely startable now. Unless you buy into the whole “injury prone” narrative that a lacerated spleen and a non-contact ACL tear represent some sort of predictable pattern, Keenan is in a completely different stratosphere than Amari.
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Re: KA for Cooper + ?

Postby Phaded » Sun Dec 17, 2017 9:01 am

Meanwhile KA carted off again..

Not that I am saying I would rather have Coop but both of these guys are overvalued.
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