Peak Trade Value?

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Re: Peak Trade Value?

Postby jonf86 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:36 am

skip wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:38 am
I wish I owned a mid 1st if I knew I could land Howard for that... Howard is producing just fine in an offense that has he and Trubisky and big stinking pile of dung. Looks an awful lot like the Rams a year ago. No way is a middle-1st "peak value".

Williams and Hill I would consider "at peak", though I see Hill more on a plateau as his value should remain steady.
Well said. I completely agree.

It's crazy, what does Howard have to do to earn some respect around here? After his rookie season, the critique against him was that he got lucky with long runs and feasted against poor run defenses and it was unlikely his oline was going to remain as good/healthy. What's the excuse this year? The Bears have no passing offense, Howard continues to somehow produce and he's only 23.
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Re: Peak Trade Value?

Postby jfasheh » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:53 pm

Collins for sure for me and I am nervous about Howard even though the talent is there with Fox probably out as coach there might be a new game plan in there which consists of more of Cohen then this year. Also expect that to happen anyway because Cohen is rising and can earn more playing time at the start of next year. I am not saying i would sell Howard but just be cautious of the situation that arises there in Chi. If you would have done the Collins deal before the Playoffs you probably could have gotten a better pick for an okay team making a playoff run.
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Re: Peak Trade Value?

Postby Jpalladino91 » Thu Dec 14, 2017 3:01 pm

darewood11 wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:26 am
You think Howard is worth only a mid 1st? So if I was offered fournette and Keenan for 2 2018 late 1st and Howard you would do that with my team?
DO THAT NOW.

Fournette>Howard
Keenan>>>> 2 late 1sts.
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Re: Peak Trade Value?

Postby M-Dub » Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:14 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 10:35 am
M-Dub wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:29 pm
Goddard wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:07 pm
Collins and Williams.
My thoughts exactly.

Howard’s peak value was probably this past offseason. He’s been exposed as a two-down plodder this year. If you can cash out for a mid 1st, consider yourself lucky.

Doctson is probably a hold unless you can get a mid 1st. I don’t think I’d trade him for anything later than 1.08, and I doubt too many buyers are willing to pay more.

Tyreek is just awesome. I was skeptical coming into this year and probably would’ve moved him for a mid/late 1st, but at this point, I’m riding it out unless someone blows me away with a ridiculous overpay.

stuff like this tells me you arent paying attention. dude is 4th in yards in the league lol
I don’t play in any standard leagues, so maybe he holds more value in that format, but in PPR, he’s the RB12, right behind Lamar Miller. That doesn’t exactly scream high 1st value to me. But what do I know? I’m not even paying attention...
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Re: Peak Trade Value?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Fri Dec 15, 2017 12:16 am

M-Dub wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:29 pm
Goddard wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:07 pm
Collins and Williams.
My thoughts exactly.

Howard’s peak value was probably this past offseason. He’s been exposed as a two-down plodder this year. If you can cash out for a mid 1st, consider yourself lucky.

Doctson is probably a hold unless you can get a mid 1st. I don’t think I’d trade him for anything later than 1.08, and I doubt too many buyers are willing to pay more.

Tyreek is just awesome. I was skeptical coming into this year and probably would’ve moved him for a mid/late 1st, but at this point, I’m riding it out unless someone blows me away with a ridiculous overpay.
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Re: Peak Trade Value?

Postby mmass » Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:01 am

Hahaclintondix wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:42 am
darewood11 wrote:
Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:26 am
You think Howard is worth only a mid 1st? So if I was offered fournette and Keenan for 2 2018 late 1st and Howard you would do that with my team?
I would do that right now before it's too late.
I do this trade in a second. Fournette and Keenen yes please
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Re: Peak Trade Value?

Postby mlynarcm » Fri Dec 15, 2017 7:38 am

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:47 pm
Collins is at peak value. Sell for a mid First.

Howard is at peak value, I would sell for the 1.01 or 1.02.

Hill would be at peak value if you're not a believer in him long term. I personally think he will continue to be an upside WR2 and so I wouldn't sell unless I'm getting Hilton/ARob/Diggs prices.

Jamal Williams is probably a similar concept to Tyreek Hill, except I'm NOT a believer in him. So he's a sell for me (any First), but if you think he'll keep the job then hold him.

Doctson is definitely not a sell high.
I agree. All of these players are sell candidates, unless youre high on them. The only one I would reconsider is Hill. I was down on Kenaan Allen at the start of the year because he keeps getting injured, but now I think he's too valuable weeke to week to get rid of.
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Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: A. Luck, K. Cousins, M. Trubisky
RB: J. Mixon, J. Mckinnon, F. Gore
WR: O. Beckham, K. Allen, D. Adams, D. Parker, M. Crabtree, J. Edleman, B. Marshall, C. Samuel, W. Snead
TE: E. Ebron, T, Eifert, G. Kittle
Picks: 2 - 2018 1st's (1.02, 1.03),

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Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: Winston, Bortles, Trubisky
RB: D. Cook, D. Henry, G. Bernard, C. Carson, C. Prosise
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, D. Funchess, D Moncrief, Z. Jones, C. Samuel
TE: O. Howard, G. Kittle, E. Ebron
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