Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

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Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby Magic derivative » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:05 pm

For team 2 in sig.

If Kamara is out then I'll have to start two of: Morris, Martin, Hilton, Juju, or Ginn. I'd probably start Morrisand Gin (Hilton faces Denver).

I'm probably a heavy favorite to win week 16, but I'd have to get there first. The Hopkins/Brown/K Allen owner just lost in the quarters and is willing to sell, but I would likely loose some value by selling Kamara or Zeke. I could try and buy a lower value asset (Woods, Robby Anderson, or Goodwin). I have no 2018 rookie picks.

Here is who my week 15 opponent is probably starting: Case K., Fournette, Hunt, Lynch, McCaffery, M Thomas, J Gordon, M Lee, J Cook. So I'm probably a slight favorite without making a move and a heavy favorite if I buy a stud for my flex.

Thanks for the advice.
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TE: Ertz, Doyle, Ebron, Brate, OJ Howard

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby vixen » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:01 pm

nope, i would not sell them for a win (even championship)...kamara suffered his concussion on thursday..so i am hoping he will clear...
i would not start mcfadden over hilton though...would rather start wallace/walker/rod smith/woodhead...

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby chalorpas » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:23 pm

Do you mean Darren McFadden? Isn't he retired? I would definitely go after the brown/Hopkins/Allen owner since he was just eliminated. I wouldn't sell low but those are all good assets who are playing now. Go for the win.

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby Spongehack » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:25 pm

You don't sell Zeke or Kamara unless it's an overpay. You don't start a retired player.
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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby Goddard » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:29 pm

Depends on what you get in return, but I wouldn't sell low on either.

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby Samhain34 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:26 am

Sorry, but even for a championship I'm not dealing Zeke and Kamara. Kamara is a young stud and his coach loves him while Zeke is THE foundational piece at RB. See how much the Cowboys miss him? They're going to ride him until the wheels fall off.

Also, I think Kamara will return next week, so all you have to do is get some luck next week and wait for Zeke to return for the finals where he will hopefully go scorched earth.

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:21 am

no
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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby RB6 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:00 am

Don't sell either.
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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby sloth8u » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:37 am

id see if ross could get you fitz in case of emergency.....do not sell kamara or zeke.....look at it this way for the next 2 weeks....you've made it this far without them. kamara early, and recently zeke....i agree that you could make a play to help your chances....but these are not the guys to move right now unless you are getting elite talent back.

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby dblj1199 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:52 am

First McFadden retired a few weeks ago, so I'm going out on a limb here and saying that he isn't a good option to start. I wouldn't trade them, I'd roll with what you have and hope you win this week, Zeke gets back and your in the finals next week. I'd look at Smith and TY to start.
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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby Triton85 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:39 am

Yea like others said, unless you are getting a kings ransom I wouldn't consider moving either

You'd have to tell me you were getting 2-3 championships out of it to consider trading both lol

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby Magic derivative » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:32 am

vixen wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:01 pm nope, i would not sell them for a win (even championship)...kamara suffered his concussion on thursday..so i am hoping he will clear...
i would not start mcfadden over hilton though...would rather start wallace/walker/rod smith/woodhead...

good luck...

My bad a meant morris, not mcfadden. After stashing mcfadden for half a season for this moment I forgot that he isn't the guy. :wall:

I'm kind of surprised at people's strong resistance for trading. For instance if I traded kamara for Hopkins or AB that seems like a big upgrade (even if I have to give up something minor) from a dynasty value lens. Even Hopkins seems to have more value than Zeke. Is this just the difference between start up and in season value or am I just missing something.
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RB: Hunt, Kamara, D. Martin, M Mack, D. Washington, R. Jodgers, Rod SMith, W. Gallman, B Cunningham
WR: C Davis, D. Thomas, Tate, M Jones, Shepard, R. Anderson, T. Ginn, J Mathews, P. Richardson, M. Sanu, Terrance Williams, Tyrell Williams
TE: Ertz, Doyle, Ebron, Brate, OJ Howard

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QB: Rodgers, Staford, Roethlisberger, Dalton
RB: Elliott, Gordon, Freeman, Mixon , Martin, McFadden, B Oliver, J Rodgers, Rod Smith, Terrance West, Woodhead
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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby block2323 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:47 am

I do not agree with many of the posters above. There is no player in dynasty that is untradeable and if you can find an owner that will give you something to help you win now...you have to take it. Earlier in the season everyone cried foul when I thought about making a trade centered around moving Zeke for Wentz, Ertz & Kamara...hindsight I should have made the trade and now its not even close but many on here made the same posts as above saying its not close, etc. etc.

Instead later in the season when I was trying to solidify my playoff push and trying to win the title I moved Zeke & CD for Antonio Brown, Lamar Miller and 3 solid picks from the 3rd worst team in the league. Many would say I lost this trade from a dynasty perspective but my goal is to win and I feel as if I can move Brown/Lamar down the road and still have the value of the 3 picks next year as we only keep 8 playeres. I did this not only to help my run but to also re-load my team for next year. If you can get AB+ or Hopkins+ I would definitely be interested if I was you as championships are what you go for and these guys are studs...just like Zeke.
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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby Suhmdog » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:46 am

No.. keep them and be good for years to come

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Re: Sell Kamara/Zeke to get to finals

Postby auggiedoggies » Tue Dec 12, 2017 1:05 pm

The people saying flat out don't trade are wrong. In dynasty, you should ALWAYS be willing to trade or move a player if the value/situation is correct. You said that the Hopkins/Brown/Keenan owner is potentially selling? I would move Zeke+a late 1st for AB in a heartbeat if it greatly increases my chance of winning.
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