I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

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I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:22 am

Trade 1 was a late 1st (7-10) for Mark Ingram

Trade 2 was Devontae Booker, late 18 2nd, my 19 2nd which should be late for Lamar Miller

These guys both have rookie runningbacks coming for their job, but I think they'll still be ok for 2018 and maybe 2019. My Runningbacks were so week I had 3 flex guys at best going every week and I was sick of it. Of course, after going 6-1 to make playoffs my team falls on their face and I need Pats D and Landry to outscore Tom Brady by 40 tonight to win.....so I'm out

I have my own 1st still which will be pick 5 or 6 to do something with. but then just a 3rd and a 5th

2018 lineup is looking like
Russell Wilson
Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram, Lamar Miller
OBJ, Evans, Landy
Rudolph or Hunter Henry

I don't think they were the worst playoff push trades, not like I took on AP or Lynch, but really wish I had that other 1st or some 2nds as the rest of my team is so young and now I have two RBs past the midpoint of their career
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby briank » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:26 am

Good trades. Those guys should be fine next year as well.
12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 9
QB Allen/Tubisky/Lock
RB Mixon/Harris/Etienne
WR DJ Moore
TE Kelce/Irv
2022 1.06/1.09
2023 3x 1st

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Watson/Ryan
RB CMC/Zeke/Mixon/Sanders
WR Evans/Godwin/Robinson/Golladay/Thielen/Lockett/Fuller
TE Kittle/Waller/L. Thomas

12 tm tiered PPR Superflex start 10
QB Mahomes/Murray/Brady
RB CMC
WR Adams/Hill/Diggs/AJ Brown/Aiyuk/Woods/R. Moore
TE Kelce/Kittle/Njoku
2x 2023 1sts

12 tm PPR 1.5 for TE Superflex start 2 TE start 12
QB Herbert/Tua/Lawrence/Fields
RB Harris/Etienne
WR Jefferson/Deebo/Lamb/DSmith/Sutton/Juedy/Kirk/E. Moore/R. Moore
TE Kittle/Pitts/Waller/Fant/Njoku
2022 1.01/1.12/2.02

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:33 am

You're fine man. Dont worry until they actually start to lose their jobs. Ingram was still extremely productive with Kamara going off and Lamar will still get a majority of the workload

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby dazza » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:38 am

briank wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:26 am Good trades. Those guys should be fine next year as well.
Agreed. If nothing else they should hold trade value and you can flip them for younger pieces in the offseason. No harm done

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby RB6 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:24 am

You're still set up nicely for next year.
.5PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
Andrews, Higbee

PPR 1Q/3W/2R/1T/1SF/2F
Mahomes, Purdy, Dalton, Henicke, Trask, Zappe
Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
Pitts, Waller, Washington

PPR Best Ball Dynasty SF .5TEP
Stroud, Cousins, Willis, Mariota, Cunningham
Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
St. Brown, Aiyuk, DJ Moore, London, Doubs, Metchie, Scott, Claypool
Kincaid, Dulcich, Fant, Turner, Hurst

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby pierson242 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:42 am

RB6 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:24 am You're still set up nicely for next year.
I agree I would not be to worried
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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby skip » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:34 am

I like the Miller trade more than the Ingram one simply because you gave up pieces of much less value and obtained the RB with a lesser threat for his workload. That said, I still like both deals well enough that you should get plenty of run out of both at good prices.
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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby ddog2303 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:08 am

You’re fine. I am a fan of Ingram and think that he’s worth what you paid. You got a deal on Miller but I’m not sold on Miller being the work horse there for much longer. But all in all you’re fine. You could always try to move Miller and try to get a good piece to build with but I think you’re fine and these trades don’t hurt your future
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Start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 SF, 1 K
3DL, 4 LB, 4 DB

QB- Rodgers, Wentz,
RB- DJ, Barkley, Kamara, Cook, Mixon, Jamaal Williams, Aaron Jones, Ekeler, Lindsay, Powell
WR- AB, OBJ, Nuk, Michael Thomas, Adams, Watkins, Josh Gordon, Dante Pettis, Doctson, Tyrell, Josh Reynolds
TE- Zach Ertz, Jordan Reed, Hunter Henry, Shaheen
DL- Watt, Donald, Campbell, Griffen, Graham, Irving
LB- Kuechly, Lee, Kwon, Martinez, Hicks, Eric Kendricks, Edmunds, Preston Brown, Hitchens
DB- Landon Collins, Keanu Neal, Poyer, Hyde, Quin, Cyprien

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:20 pm

lol i thought you were gonna say you traded away all picks and have all these old dudes. you are fine mark ingram just had a top 10 season, easily worth a 1st in the 7-10 range and miller should still have a role but i would try to lock up foreman as well while hes hurt and can e had for cheaper than usual.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:44 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:20 pm lol i thought you were gonna say you traded away all picks and have all these old dudes. you are fine mark ingram just had a top 10 season, easily worth a 1st in the 7-10 range and miller should still have a role but i would try to lock up foreman as well while hes hurt and can e had for cheaper than usual.
Our trading is now done until sometime after the superbowl, but that's a good point for him. I'll see what the owner wants (probably too much) or see if he'll pay more for Miller than what I paid to acquire him
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby Spongehack » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:16 pm

You are fine. Late seconds rarely ever pan out anyway and Ingram and Miller are young enough to help you for several more years.
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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby cptjonesb » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:30 pm

Spongehack wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:16 pm You are fine. Late seconds rarely ever pan out anyway and Ingram and Miller are young enough to help you for several more years.

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby cptjonesb » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:30 pm

Spongehack wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:16 pm You are fine. Late seconds rarely ever pan out anyway and Ingram and Miller are young enough to help you for several more years.
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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby Goddard » Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:13 pm

I still like both trades.

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Re: I made playoff push trades and lost, how much did I hurt my 18 and beyond?

Postby mmass » Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:54 am

Both trades are good.. hell the Miller trade you should have asked the guy out for a second date if he was giving it away like that.
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller


SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee


SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard


SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart

2020 2 1st & 2nd

Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly


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