Gronk for Hunt
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Gronk for Hunt
I've been in talks for weeks with an owner who is very strong at RB -- Hunt, Freeman, Kamara, Mixon, Hyde. He needs a TE (been getting by the with WAS tandem, but that's fallen through now), and I have both Gronk and Graham. I am playing this week, and he is the #1 team from the regular season and is on bye. I'm looking at rolling out (against a team with a very high ceiling):
RB - Fournette
RB - Lewis
WR - Evans
WR - Alshon
RB/WR - Collins
TE - Graham
with a bench of Crowder, Watkins, Davis, AJones, Barber, Gronk (susp)
Should I make that deal, knowing that I'll be helping another playoff team? Or would you be content with this lineup for the playoffs?
RB - Fournette
RB - Lewis
WR - Evans
WR - Alshon
RB/WR - Collins
TE - Graham
with a bench of Crowder, Watkins, Davis, AJones, Barber, Gronk (susp)
Should I make that deal, knowing that I'll be helping another playoff team? Or would you be content with this lineup for the playoffs?
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
I'd rather have Gronk, but it's close
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
Thanks guys. One on either side....
Anyone else? I've added a poll in case anyone is reading and doesn't want to post.
Anyone else? I've added a poll in case anyone is reading and doesn't want to post.
Re: Gronk for Hunt
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
Voted Gronk, but close, feel like you should get a little more back
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
Hunt.
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
still gronk but i see the sense in trying to win this week and also gaining a younger asset.
wouldnt fault you either way. gronk is a big edge at te where hunt has not given teams an edge at rb since week 5 or whatever
wouldnt fault you either way. gronk is a big edge at te where hunt has not given teams an edge at rb since week 5 or whatever
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
No way. If you were rebuilding, I'd maybe say Hunt, but you're in the playoffs...why would you help a team that you may face in a week or two that currently has zero options at TE? Also, Hunt has been a RB3/flex the last few weeks. Weeks 14-16, you're pretty much playing redraft. Would you trade away Gronk for Theo Riddick or JD McKissic in a redraft right now? Because those RBs have outscored Hunt the last four weeks...I would start Lewis and Collins over Hunt at this point even if you owned him.
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
Whoa. Hunt's workload has been there, the TDs haven't. Against Oak, LAC, and Mia I can definitely see some positive TD regression. Seems like a scorching taek to me to start Collins over him in the next two weeks (@Pit, @Cle).WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:50 am I would start Lewis and Collins over Hunt at this point even if you owned him.
Three further things to add:
-- Money is paid out in this league to the top 3 finishers. Getting through this week is a big thing for me.
-- He now has Cam Brate, so if I don't do the deal it's not like he's f'ed at TE.
-- What if there was a conditional pick swap attached, where if one of us clearly gets the better end of the deal over the next three weeks, they owe the player a first round pick next year in exchange for some lower round pick?
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
I'm not saying Hunt is unstartable. I'm saying the huge upgrade from Brate to Gronk is way more beneficial for your adversary than the marginal upgrade from Collins to Hunt (maybe even a relatively lateral move as Collins is the GL back and involved in the passing game). If you really want Hunt, it's not a terrible trade. I just wouldn't do it.MontrealBen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:01 amWhoa. Hunt's workload has been there, the TDs haven't. Against Oak, LAC, and Mia I can definitely see some positive TD regression. Seems like a scorching taek to me to start Collins over him in the next two weeks (@Pit, @Cle).WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:50 am I would start Lewis and Collins over Hunt at this point even if you owned him.
Three further things to add:
-- Money is paid out in this league to the top 3 finishers. Getting through this week is a big thing for me.
-- He now has Cam Brate, so if I don't do the deal it's not like he's f'ed at TE.
-- What if there was a conditional pick swap attached, where if one of us clearly gets the better end of the deal over the next three weeks, they owe the player a first round pick next year in exchange for some lower round pick?
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
I think it's close in a vacuum so in your situation I'd definitely stick with Gronk because it helps your opponent much more than it helps you
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
On the contrary, Andy Reid hasn't been giving Hunt enough volume. Most weeks recently he's barely touching the ball in the first half (an no coincidence that the Chiefs have lost 6 of the last 7...you can't win on Alex Smith's arm).MontrealBen wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:01 amWhoa. Hunt's workload has been there, the TDs haven't.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:50 am I would start Lewis and Collins over Hunt at this point even if you owned him.
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
Gronk is still a cheat code at the TE position. Hunt... well he should have been sold for waaaay too much during his run earlier in the season.
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Re: Gronk for Hunt
For what it's worth, I offered Gronk to the Hunt owner a couple weeks ago and was turned down.
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