OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Been having discussions with the Beckham owner about acquiring him. He would trade him along with 1.09 (although could be as high as 1.12) for M Thomas, 1.01 (Barkley) and 2.03.
I would love to get him but the thought of losing Barkley and the value of 1.01 is putting me off.
Is it worth it?
I would love to get him but the thought of losing Barkley and the value of 1.01 is putting me off.
Is it worth it?
12 team/.5 PPR league/ 1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, D, K
Team 1
QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
WR: Lamb, K Allen, G WilsonLondon, Flowers, JSN, Mims, Perry
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Likely
K: Aubrey
D: 49ers Cowboys, Browns
Team 2
QB: Lawrence, Wilson, Fields
RB: Javonte Williams, Ekeler, McCaffrey, Pacheco Charbonnet, Bigsby
WR: Chase, London, Jeudy Woods, Sutton, Beckham, Skyy Moore, W Robinson
TE: Pitts Likely, Kmet, Dulcich
K: McPherson
D: 49ers
Team 1
QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
WR: Lamb, K Allen, G WilsonLondon, Flowers, JSN, Mims, Perry
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Likely
K: Aubrey
D: 49ers Cowboys, Browns
Team 2
QB: Lawrence, Wilson, Fields
RB: Javonte Williams, Ekeler, McCaffrey, Pacheco Charbonnet, Bigsby
WR: Chase, London, Jeudy Woods, Sutton, Beckham, Skyy Moore, W Robinson
TE: Pitts Likely, Kmet, Dulcich
K: McPherson
D: 49ers
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
OBJ side for me. Barkley is a heck of a talent and a lot of hype, but OBJ is a top 2 fantasy asset. No guarantee Barkely overthrows the DJ, Bell, Zeke, Gurley fantasy plays to claim that title
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
-
- Legend
- Posts: 5385
- Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:26 pm
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
He doesn't have to though! Barkley is an unbelievable talent and he should be a RB1 for years to come. OBJ is also unbelievable, but he also carries some risks (injury, attitude, holdout) and I think this is a very well crafted deal where both parties could walk away happy.
I think this comes down to Michael Thomas. I admit I wasn't ready to get on his hype train prior to the season, but he has quietly been a rock solid player and his only risk at this point is the age of Drew Brees. I think I would lean toward the MT side, but this has a great shot to be a win for both...I like the bold move by both owners!
#1-12 Team .5 PPR TE Premium (20-max)
Winston, Wentz
Ingram, Jones, Dalvin Cook, Rawls, Smallwood, McGuire
Evans, Keenan, Parker, Corey Davis, Lockett, Ty Williams
Ertz
1.05/1.06/1.07
#2-12 Team .5 PPR (25-max)
Rivers, Wilson
Gurley, JStew, West, Duke, Breida, Smallwood, Joe Williams
Nuk, Alshon, Sanders, Doctson, Crowder, Carroo, Carlos Henderson
Ertz, Kittle
#3 14-team PPR (27-max) Year 2
Rodgers, Bortles
McCoy, Howard, Chubb, Crowell, Cohen, D. Martin, McGuire, Joe Williams, Breida, West, Aaron Jones
Cooks, Alshon, MBryant, Britt, Boyd, Wright, Carroo, Chad Williams
Kelce, Julius Thomas, Jesse James, Shaheen, D. Allen
#4 12-team PPR S-flex TE Prem
Wentz, Trubisky, Cutler
Kamara, Ajayi, Howard, Lacy, Mack, Elijah McGuire, Sproles, Turbin
Hopkins, Alshon, Parker, Stills, Britt, ArDarius, P Cooper, TWilliams
Brate, Green, D Allen, Higbee, Hodges, Anderson
1.02/1.10
Winston, Wentz
Ingram, Jones, Dalvin Cook, Rawls, Smallwood, McGuire
Evans, Keenan, Parker, Corey Davis, Lockett, Ty Williams
Ertz
1.05/1.06/1.07
#2-12 Team .5 PPR (25-max)
Rivers, Wilson
Gurley, JStew, West, Duke, Breida, Smallwood, Joe Williams
Nuk, Alshon, Sanders, Doctson, Crowder, Carroo, Carlos Henderson
Ertz, Kittle
#3 14-team PPR (27-max) Year 2
Rodgers, Bortles
McCoy, Howard, Chubb, Crowell, Cohen, D. Martin, McGuire, Joe Williams, Breida, West, Aaron Jones
Cooks, Alshon, MBryant, Britt, Boyd, Wright, Carroo, Chad Williams
Kelce, Julius Thomas, Jesse James, Shaheen, D. Allen
#4 12-team PPR S-flex TE Prem
Wentz, Trubisky, Cutler
Kamara, Ajayi, Howard, Lacy, Mack, Elijah McGuire, Sproles, Turbin
Hopkins, Alshon, Parker, Stills, Britt, ArDarius, P Cooper, TWilliams
Brate, Green, D Allen, Higbee, Hodges, Anderson
1.02/1.10
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
IMO this is really close (I'd probably take Odell? Maybe?). With your roster, it really comes down to whether you want arguably the top asset in dynasty or two theoretical studs.
Just to play devils advocate with one of the posts above, I too worry a little bit about MT after Brees, but who is going to be throwing to Odell the next few seasons?
Just to play devils advocate with one of the posts above, I too worry a little bit about MT after Brees, but who is going to be throwing to Odell the next few seasons?
20 man Rosters PPR start QB, 2RB, 3WR, TE, Flex (WR,RB,TE) K DEF 12 teams $220 cap
QB: Luck $22, Jameis $1, Mariota $1
RB: Saquon $18, D. Johnson $13, Henry $17, Gus Edwards $13, D. Martin $3
WR: Julio $50, Mike Evans $30, Diggs $12, Tyreek $8, Mike Williams $7, Godwin $4, Sutton $6, Agholor $8
TE: Burton $14, Hooper $2
K: Tucker $1
D/ST: Streaming
QB: Luck $22, Jameis $1, Mariota $1
RB: Saquon $18, D. Johnson $13, Henry $17, Gus Edwards $13, D. Martin $3
WR: Julio $50, Mike Evans $30, Diggs $12, Tyreek $8, Mike Williams $7, Godwin $4, Sutton $6, Agholor $8
TE: Burton $14, Hooper $2
K: Tucker $1
D/ST: Streaming
-
- All Pro
- Posts: 1719
- Joined: Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:14 pm
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
1.09 is too specific, that's a playoff team draft slot...any chance adding MT to that team increases their immediate bleep at the championship?
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Glad I'm not the only one struggling with this offer!
The 1.09 pick is a guess that the guy will win his play off match but lose his next. Best case scenario is 1.07 but worst case is 1.12. Currently he is in a play off match at 1.08. He hasn't mentioned it being a make or break deal if we can't get it done tonight for Thomas to play, or maybe I should take my time and wait until after tonight for any deal to help the draft pick.
Brees is a worry, especially as they are a run first team now but as you guys pointed out, the Giants QB situation is just as murky and at least with Thomas, you get a guy that seems all business, OBJ carries a lot of potential baggage despite his unreal talent.
The 1.09 pick is a guess that the guy will win his play off match but lose his next. Best case scenario is 1.07 but worst case is 1.12. Currently he is in a play off match at 1.08. He hasn't mentioned it being a make or break deal if we can't get it done tonight for Thomas to play, or maybe I should take my time and wait until after tonight for any deal to help the draft pick.
Brees is a worry, especially as they are a run first team now but as you guys pointed out, the Giants QB situation is just as murky and at least with Thomas, you get a guy that seems all business, OBJ carries a lot of potential baggage despite his unreal talent.
12 team/.5 PPR league/ 1 QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, D, K
Team 1
QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
WR: Lamb, K Allen, G WilsonLondon, Flowers, JSN, Mims, Perry
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Likely
K: Aubrey
D: 49ers Cowboys, Browns
Team 2
QB: Lawrence, Wilson, Fields
RB: Javonte Williams, Ekeler, McCaffrey, Pacheco Charbonnet, Bigsby
WR: Chase, London, Jeudy Woods, Sutton, Beckham, Skyy Moore, W Robinson
TE: Pitts Likely, Kmet, Dulcich
K: McPherson
D: 49ers
Team 1
QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
WR: Lamb, K Allen, G WilsonLondon, Flowers, JSN, Mims, Perry
TE: Kelce, Goedert, Likely
K: Aubrey
D: 49ers Cowboys, Browns
Team 2
QB: Lawrence, Wilson, Fields
RB: Javonte Williams, Ekeler, McCaffrey, Pacheco Charbonnet, Bigsby
WR: Chase, London, Jeudy Woods, Sutton, Beckham, Skyy Moore, W Robinson
TE: Pitts Likely, Kmet, Dulcich
K: McPherson
D: 49ers
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Regardless of value I don't think that trade helps your team. You would be losing a RB1 and a WR1 for a better WR1. You can roll out Zeke, Fournette and Barkley for the next 5-6 years along with M. Thomas. Or.....Zeke and Fournette with OBJ. I'd keep the picks and take Barkley then try to land a #2 WR with your other 2 picks or trade Burkhead and picks for a WR. I like your team a lot.
TEAM 1
10 team .5 PPR 1QB/2RB/2WR/TE/3FLEX/DEF
2019 Champion
2020 Champion
QB-Lamar Jackson, Trey Lance
RB-CMC, Kamara, King Henry, Chubb,, Dillon, D.J., Tony Jones
WR-Metcalf, AJ Brown, Godwin, Arob, Mooney, Bryan Edwards
TE- Fant, Goedert, L. Thomas
10 team .5 PPR 1QB/2RB/2WR/TE/3FLEX/DEF
2019 Champion
2020 Champion
QB-Lamar Jackson, Trey Lance
RB-CMC, Kamara, King Henry, Chubb,, Dillon, D.J., Tony Jones
WR-Metcalf, AJ Brown, Godwin, Arob, Mooney, Bryan Edwards
TE- Fant, Goedert, L. Thomas
- Coogan Football
- GOAT
- Posts: 14333
- Joined: Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:03 am
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Close, but I'd take the Thomas side.
OBJ is a stud, but a loose cannon and in this kind of a huge trade I'd rather not gamble on him when giving up some great pieces
OBJ is a stud, but a loose cannon and in this kind of a huge trade I'd rather not gamble on him when giving up some great pieces
12 team 6pts all TDs/.5ppr/SFlex/ balanced IDP, scoring est. 2008
Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
Don't be the guy that asks for advice without giving some out yourself
#WhoDat
Start QB,SF,2RB,3WR,TE,2Flex,3DL,3LB,3DB,2DFlex
3x Champion 2015, 2016, 2017
QB: Brees, Luck, Prescott, McCarron, C.Kelly, Peterman
RB: Elliott, Gurley, Hunt, Kamara, Gordon, Howard, McCaffrey, J.Williams,
WR: Julio, Hopkins, M.Thomas, TY, Watkins, Kupp, C.Davis, Thomas (LA), Carroo, Switzer, Tr. Taylor
TE: Olsen, Engram, Howard, Fleener, Swoope
DL: Watt, Mack, C.Jordan, Bosa, D.Hunter, Clowney, Armstead
LB: Kuechly, Ogletree, Mosley, McKinney, R.Foster, Bucannon, Z.Cunningham, Anzalone, ShaqT,
, Goodson, Pullard,
DB: H.Smith, Vaccaro, B.Jones, Neal, Adoree, K.Joseph, Geathers, M.Maye, J.Jones, D Thompson
Don't be the guy that asks for advice without giving some out yourself
#WhoDat
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
x2Coogan Football wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:14 pm Close, but I'd take the Thomas side.
OBJ is a stud, but a loose cannon and in this kind of a huge trade I'd rather not gamble on him when giving up some great pieces
Also, OBJ's QB situation is a much greater immediate risk than Thomas'.
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
1.01 (Barkley) side for me.
Just watch it [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZSvCwvMVII[/youtube]
12 team, Superflex, PPR, TE premium (1.5)
QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, SFlex, Flex
QB Burrow, Dak, Carr, Jimmy G, Winston, Dalton, Zappe, Rush, O'Connell, Heinicke
RB Bijan, Etienne, Pacheco, Rhamondre, K. Herbert, Jamaal Williams, Dillon, Jeff Wilson, Gus Edwards, Chase Edmonds, Chuba, K. Ingram, Pierre Strong, Kevin Harris, Haskins, Brittain Brown, Chase Brown
WR Chase, AJ Brown, Kupp, Keenan, Sutton, Cooks, Boyd, Michael Wilson, Iosivas, Tre Tucker,
TE Kelce, Pitts, Dulcich, McBride, Cole Turner, Strange, Mallory, E Higgins
Draft picks:
'24- 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6
'25- 1, 1, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6
12 team, Superflex, PPR, TE premium (1.5)
QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, TE, SFlex, Flex
QB Burrow, Dak, Carr, Jimmy G, Winston, Dalton, Zappe, Rush, O'Connell, Heinicke
RB Bijan, Etienne, Pacheco, Rhamondre, K. Herbert, Jamaal Williams, Dillon, Jeff Wilson, Gus Edwards, Chase Edmonds, Chuba, K. Ingram, Pierre Strong, Kevin Harris, Haskins, Brittain Brown, Chase Brown
WR Chase, AJ Brown, Kupp, Keenan, Sutton, Cooks, Boyd, Michael Wilson, Iosivas, Tre Tucker,
TE Kelce, Pitts, Dulcich, McBride, Cole Turner, Strange, Mallory, E Higgins
Draft picks:
'24- 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6
'25- 1, 1, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Agree that OBJ's QB situation sucks, but it has sucked and he's still produced. Eli was dreadful last year and this year and we have no idea when Brees will retire and who would replace him. As far as we know M Thomas is QB dependent.dazza wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 5:58 amx2Coogan Football wrote: ↑Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:14 pm Close, but I'd take the Thomas side.
OBJ is a stud, but a loose cannon and in this kind of a huge trade I'd rather not gamble on him when giving up some great pieces
Also, OBJ's QB situation is a much greater immediate risk than Thomas'.
That said I think this is a fair trade value wise and would come down to a preferential guess about each player's projected future. OBJ is still the number 1 dynasty asset so risks associated with him are probably overplayed. I worry we're overhyping Barkley but if he's at least equal to Fournette in terms of talent/situation (which most contend he'll be better) then a high end RB1 plus Thomas probably would be worth more than OBJ next year. If you're risk adverse go OBJ, if you like to gamble stick with Thomas and Barkley
10 Team Half PPR Scoring SF
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
QB: Mahomes, Hurts, Minshew
RB: Kamara, K. Hunt, Warren, Bigsby, D. Cook, Jamaal Williams, J. Wilson, McLaughlin, McKinnon, J. Kelley
WR: A.J. Brown, Diggs, K. Allen, C. Watson, Cooks, Pickens, W. Robinson
TE: Kelce, J. Smith, Musgrave
- WhatWouldDitkaDo
- GOAT
- Posts: 14721
- Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:02 am
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
I'd hold onto Thomas and the 1.01. Unless it's a crazy overpay, I'm not selling the 1.01. We're likely going to see some rookie fever trades like OBJ for the 1.01 straight up.
Kittles Pox | Championships: 2015, 2017
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
12-Team PPR | QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, W/R/T, K, DST
QB: Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers
RB: Christian McCaffrey, Melvin Gordon, James Conner, Phillip Lindsay, Tevin Coleman, Boston Scott, Benny Snell Jr.
WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
TE: George Kittle, Travis Kelce | K: Younghoe Koo | DST: SF
PS: Mecole Hardman, Tony Pollard | 2020 Picks: 1.09, 2.10, 3.03 | 2021 Picks: 1st, 2nd
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Stay with Thomas and 1.01.
- pierson242
- Ring of Fame
- Posts: 3642
- Joined: Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:55 am
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Devy Writer and Ranker for DLF
Follow me on Twitter @PiersonFF
Follow me on Twitter @PiersonFF
Re: OBJ & 1.09 for M Thomas, 1.01 and 2.03
Very close but I'd prefer the Michael Thomas and Barkley side.
Come April, MThomas will be perceived as very close to a top 5 dynasty WR (ODB, Evans, Hopkins, Brown, then some mix of Green, Julio, and MThomas?). And, that 1.01 will have sky high value. I'd rather have a WR that produces similarly to ODB and the chance at a true stud 3 down back.
Come April, MThomas will be perceived as very close to a top 5 dynasty WR (ODB, Evans, Hopkins, Brown, then some mix of Green, Julio, and MThomas?). And, that 1.01 will have sky high value. I'd rather have a WR that produces similarly to ODB and the chance at a true stud 3 down back.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Hottoddies, Tvols and 166 guests