1.06 for Engram?

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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby Mrowmix » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:59 pm

Goddard wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:41 am If I owned Engram, I'd probably hold as well. However, I'm going to assume that at some point during the offseason, that pick will be worth more than Engram and you'd be able to flip it for something better.
Love Engram. But, I agree with this here. Rookie fever will make that pick worth more at some point (even though I don't have huge hopes at 1.06 and don't want much deeper than 1.04 for a guy like Engram).

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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby NFL123 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:38 am

Just a quick update on this, got offered a late 1st, 2nd and 3rd for Engram. It could well be 1.12, 2.12 and 3.12, is that a better deal for me than 1.06?

Still will probably hold because he is that good, but rookie fever in this league is insane
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QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby TD69 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:40 am

I would rather have 1.06 than the 3 picks and as others have said, Engram over 1.06.

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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby NFL123 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:14 am

Now offered Ajayi, Brandon Marshall, 1st and 2nd for Demariyus and Engram, any good? Is Ajayi the most valuable piece in the deal?
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QB: Jackson Richardson, Kyler
RB: McCaffrey, B Hall, Mostert, FordKendre Miller, E Mitchell, McLaughlin
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TE: Kelce, Goedert, Likely
K: Aubrey
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WR: Chase, London, Jeudy Woods, Sutton, Beckham, Skyy Moore, W Robinson
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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:43 am

NFL123 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:14 am Now offered Ajayi, Brandon Marshall, 1st and 2nd for Demariyus and Engram, any good? Is Ajayi the most valuable piece in the deal?
Is that the same owner? If so he added Ajayi (alright RB2) and trash for DT on top of the original deal we wouldn't take. You should probably hold a sure fire player unless you get an offer for a high pick or another Elite player

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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby hockeyBjj » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:53 pm

The 1.06 is worth a 1.08-9 more than a late 1st, second, and a 3rd that is 90% going to be bench fodder anyway

If it's the same owner you're talking with, Ajayi and the 1.06 for Engram I'd be interested in. Not the late 1st and not with DT added in there. This guy is trying to work you

Engram looks good, you don't have a usable TE behind him to risk trying to get the 1.06 and flip for higher value than Engram after the NFL draft

WRs are easier to obtain than RBs in most leagues (outside of the Evans/OBJ/now Hopkins in the mix). With Zeke, Fournette, and Barkley you'll be golden

If you can still trade in your league, try moving Brees to a playoff contender for a WR and put all your eggs in the Luck comes back at at least 90% basket
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RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby Coogan Football » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:09 pm

NFL123 wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:14 am Now offered Ajayi, Brandon Marshall, 1st and 2nd for Demariyus and Engram, any good? Is Ajayi the most valuable piece in the deal?
Close, but still the Engram/DT side (and I like Ajayi a bunch)

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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby onetwothree » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:47 pm

You're creating a hole at TE and at WR for a RBBC and a late 1st in a draft that doesn't appear to have the upside of the previous year.

I don't see anywhere that you gain an advantage as Ajayi and the 1st are the 3rd and 4th best assets in the deal except you're giving up the 2 best assets. You're not even getting enough quantity to equal the quality that you're giving up.

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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby frisco86 » Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:24 am

You have a few things going on to consider here.

1. Lets start with how high can Engram go. There are top 3 TE in Gronk, Ertz and Kelce. Then a big falloff. Engram in his rookie year is in the next tier with Graham and Walker and then you have another falloff. To me Engram has a chance to reach Tier 1. You want as many Tier 1 players, duh. These are difference makers. If you believe the same, you keep the Tier 1 vs a crapshoot at 1.06.

2. QB is Manning who is likely gone next year. Geno is not the guy. So who will be. Does this keep him from reaching tier 1 in the next couple years? But he has done this (reached tier 2) with a bad offense. A poor QB. Maybe a new QB lifts the team. He does need to catch better.

3. Does return of Beckham reduce catches next year. Did he reach tier 2 this year due to injuries on the team? Will he be relegated back to tier 3. If you think this, then I would really go for 1.06.

I think Engram goes to top tier in 2 years even with a new QB and return of Beckham.

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Re: 1.06 for Engram?

Postby jetsfan5757 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:20 am

Engram but your WRs are scary. Can you trade Burkhead to a contender for a WR? Can't think of a great target off the top of my head, but Burkhead is hot right now and you never know what happens to a RB in NE...
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