Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

Which side do you prefer?

Dede Westbrook
14
30%
Josh Gordon
33
70%
 
Total votes: 47

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Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby jonf86 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:18 pm

I offered Westbrook for Gordon and it got rejected (team 2 in sig). Wondering who you all prefer and why. Thanks for the help!
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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby Goddard » Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:49 pm

I'm not surprised a Gordon owner rejected that, but I personally wouldn't give up much or anything for Gordon.

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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby dd041496 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:59 pm

I would much rather have Gordon than Westbrook but I’m not sold on Westbrook and believe in Gordon (unfortunately).
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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby Phaded » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:03 pm

I would rather have Dede - but it's not surprising a Gordon owner would decline that.
They own him for a reason.

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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby dawgs4life » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:04 pm

I think it was a strong offer and as a Gordon owner in a few leagues, and have held him what seems like forever I might have entertained that offer.
This all comes down to belief in Gordon. If someone has help him for 2 years and got him for free they will cling to the upside. But with all the WRs except Hurns not signed for next yr in JAX Westbrook could take the Marquise Lee role on this offense. Not huge upside but a decent floor to the risk of Gordon. Again all belief in Gordon to stay on the field.

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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby dblj1199 » Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:31 pm

Too me it all depends on the owners and how much they have invested in Gordon. If they are still holding on to the Gordon from 2014..or 2015.? Not sure it’s been so long, then they may not move him. A few weeks ago it may have been accepted, but now that he’s reinstated everyone expects him to be the best wr.
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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby pandabears » Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:51 pm

Gordon and it’s not close. Westbrook just another guy. Gordon a potential superstar. I always take chance on highest ceiling.
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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby skip » Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:37 pm

Given the option, always been against the addict. How many failed to heed the warnings the last time he was reinstated? Or the ones about Martavis Bryant? Funny he hasn't even gotten his next suspension and his value is still in the toilet. The trade is fair, just personal preference. I'd rather take Westbrook just because he's the one still likely to be in the league at the time 2018 kicks off.
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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby HughHoney » Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:35 am

Legit offer and wouldn’t be surprised either way. Gordon has way more upside but is a knucklehead that may (likely) never contribute again. Westbrook has potential and I think will have value especially in PPR leagues. I voted Westbrook but can see either side and either side preferred by a solid margin.

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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:26 am

pandabears wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:51 pm Gordon and it’s not close. Westbrook just another guy. Gordon a potential superstar. I always take chance on highest ceiling.
This. Even if Gordon goes down in flames, Westbrook is easily replaceable. I know repeat offenders are risky, but I have a gut feeling that Gordon stays out of trouble this time. I would have rejected this one as well.

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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby dazza » Thu Nov 23, 2017 4:01 am

I'd lean toward Gordon. Westbrook's size scares me about as much as Gordon's issues, and didn't Dede have some character concerns coming out as well? Plus, there's only a 2 year age difference. I do like Dede's talent, though, so not a bad offer
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TE: Graham, Howard
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WR: AB, Watkins, E Sanders, C Davis, M Williams, Doctson, JGord
RB: DJ, Le'Bell, Howard, Mack, Jones
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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby jetsfan5757 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:13 am

Samhain34 wrote: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:26 am
pandabears wrote: Wed Nov 22, 2017 9:51 pm Gordon and it’s not close. Westbrook just another guy. Gordon a potential superstar. I always take chance on highest ceiling.
This. Even if Gordon goes down in flames, Westbrook is easily replaceable. I know repeat offenders are risky, but I have a gut feeling that Gordon stays out of trouble this time. I would have rejected this one as well.
This again. I like to load up on WRs that have WR1 potential. Don't see that in Westbrook.
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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:21 pm

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Njoku , HH, Engram

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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby Ghosted » Mon Nov 27, 2017 2:17 pm

Per rotoworld:

Browns coach Hue Jackson wants Josh Gordon to play "as much as possible" in his Week 13 return.

Making his first regular season appearance since Dec. 2014, there's no way Gordon will be ready for a full complement of snaps, but Jackson made it clear the desperate Browns will work him into the offense as quickly as possible. It wouldn't be a surprise if Gordon played the second most snaps behind Corey Coleman. Considering the unknown state of Gordon's game and DeShone Kizer's struggles under center, he should be considered a WR4, at best, for Week 13. Nov 27 - 2:47 PM


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Re: Josh Gordon v Dede Westbrook

Postby Jaguars8907 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:31 pm

Coming from someone that was BURNED by Justin Blackmon, I do hold some skepticism towards Gordon. That being said, his upside is too much to pass up.
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