Starting to wonder if Sammy is ever going to happen. Wanted to get a discussion going about him to see how others felt. How do you value Sammy?
What do you think he does next season, stays in LA or does he pursue FA?
Watkins poll
Re: Watkins poll
Owners still value him way higher than any buyer will. His actual value is somewhere in the middle
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RB - Chubb, Bell, Conner, Lindsay, McKinnon
WR - Adams, OBJ, AJ Brown, McLaurin, Cooks, Crowder, Watkins
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QB - Wentz, Mayfield, Carr
RB - Chubb, Bell, Conner, Lindsay, McKinnon
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Re: Watkins poll
Maybe 2 mid 1sts, but not 1.01
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Kickers - Wil Lutz
IDP - Myles Jack, Joe Schobert, Jaylon Smith, Kenneth Murray
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Re: Watkins poll
There's no way I'd give an early first for him, but a mid I guess is still reasonable. I think he leaves next season, but not sure where he would go. With Woods out a couple of weeks, he has to show something or he might not even be worth a 1st after that.
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Re: Watkins poll
lol who are these people voting multiple 1sts? Good luck with that
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Re: Watkins poll
I think the next few weeks will have a big impact on his value. If he does well he will skyrocket. If he keeps doing what he has I think he will tank. I think it is do or die time for him in the eyes of fantasy owners. He is still young enough that he holds value because you really cant hope for better from most rookies. I say he is a mid 1st at this point.
Re: Watkins poll
I'd need the 1.04 or 1.05 to consider selling but no one is paying that, so I'm holding and hoping he lands with an aggressive big armed QB.
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TEs- Fant, Muth,Irv Smith
1.07,1.11,3.09
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QBs-Watson, Davis, Huntley
RBs- Javonte,Akers, ETN,Gore,Dallas
WRs- McClaurin,DJM,Godwin,Diontae,MarquiseBr, Mooney,Van Jefferson,Collins,Atwell
TEs- Hock, Kmet,Trautman,AlbertO
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QBs- Lamar,Stafford
RBs- JT, Fournette, DHarris,Chuba,Collins,Gaskin,DHarris,Penny,Murray, Snell
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Re: Watkins poll
I'd have to think hard about giving up any first for him. Simply put, he's disappeared. If he was the elite talent many think, he wouldn't be. That offense is moving. He's been around long enough that what he is is becoming what he is, and that feels mighty unreliable. I'd rather push my chip elsewhere for the price owners want.
That said, if I own, I'm holding, unless I can move for an asset I need to help with a playoff push. In that case he can be expendable. Enough is enough.
That said, if I own, I'm holding, unless I can move for an asset I need to help with a playoff push. In that case he can be expendable. Enough is enough.
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Re: Watkins poll
He is clearly not working out in LA. Not entirely sure why Goff is not targeting him, but it's clear that they've unlocked Goff and aren't going to tell him to target Sammy if he doesn't find that read. Sammy feels it, and you can tell. I can't remember what game it was but Sammy stretched the field, slowed down and didn't even for a second think he was getting a look and suddenly Goff threw it up to him and you can see him become "shocked" and attempt to run to the ball but it was far too late. You can feel his frustration. I can't imagine him staying in LA. He has the talent to be a #1 and he sure as hell is not getting it in LA, and LA has shown they don't need it.
Sammy will move on next year.
Sammy will move on next year.