Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

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Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby TTHTD » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:33 pm

Team 1 in my sig.

Just traded for Zeke a day ago and got this offer for him-

I Give: Zeke
I Get: M. Thomas and Sammy Watkins


It's worth noting I have no 2018 or 2019 1st rounders.
Good for my team, or keep Zeke?
Team 1
12 Team 1 PPR 1QB/2 RB/2 WR/2 FLEX/1TE
QB: Herbert, Burrow
RB: Zeke, Fournette, Dobbins, Cook, Gaskins, Gainwell, Herbert, Ingram, Pacheco, T.Jones, Phillips
WR: Chase, Lamb, Hopkins, Evans, Jeudy, Toney, DBell, Woods, WRobinson, Reagor, Mims, Campbell
TE: Kelce, Jarwin, Trautman, Shultz, Gray, Granson

2023: 1, 2, 3, 4

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QB: Allen, Herbert, Jackson, Ridder
RB: Barkley, Jacobs, Fournette, Dobbins, Aaron Jones, Dillon, RoJo, McKissic, Gus Edwards, Gainwell, Wilson, Eno, Breida, Badie, ASmith
WR: Jefferson, Lamb, Sutton, Hollywood Brown, CWatson, Pierce, Toney, J.Myers
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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby Crazylegs » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:39 pm

I think that is a win for you, and I think it works for your team. You need more WR help than RB help IMO.

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby vixen » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:46 pm

meh, i don't know....and i am a sammy truther....but zeke is a difference maker....i would keep zeke

please update your sig. i don't see zeke, so i assume you no longer own some of those players
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qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
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Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby TTHTD » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:54 pm

vixen wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:46 pm meh, i don't know....and i am a sammy truther....but zeke is a difference maker....i would keep zeke

please update your sig. i don't see zeke, so i assume you no longer own some of those players
Yeah the trade had went through earlier today and hadn't updated yet but just fixed it and now it's up-to-date. My concern is that I am dying at WR and we have to start 3... All the guys I hoped would put up numbers completely flopped. Pryor, Cooper, Benjamin, Doctson, Crowder, Meredith all crapped out and now I'm weak af at WR. If I'm going to compete next season I need help there or a couple breakouts.
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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby vbbish » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:56 pm

Boy this is close...

From a value standpoint, its on the Thomas side. Team need I would big time put it on the Thomas side especially needing to start 3 WR and only 2 RB's.

But as said above, Zeke is a difference maker. Are you competing this year?
12th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league **Champ 20, 21 & 22 **
QB: J. Burrow, M. Jones, B. Zappe
RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

1st Year Superflex PPR (.5 per Rec) 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2WR/RB/TE, 1SF

QB: Herbie, T. Law, B. Young, J. Winston, K. Pickett, M. Willis
RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby TTHTD » Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:58 pm

vbbish wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:56 pm Boy this is close...

From a value standpoint, its on the Thomas side. Team need I would big time put it on the Thomas side especially needing to start 3 WR and only 2 RB's.

But as said above, Zeke is a difference maker. Are you competing this year?
Nope, not competing. I'm 1-9 with no 1st rounder.

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby vbbish » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:02 pm

TTHTD wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:58 pm
vbbish wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:56 pm Boy this is close...

From a value standpoint, its on the Thomas side. Team need I would big time put it on the Thomas side especially needing to start 3 WR and only 2 RB's.

But as said above, Zeke is a difference maker. Are you competing this year?
Nope, not competing. I'm 1-9 with no 1st rounder.
If it was offered to you then there is always room to negotiate... I would tell him that its close, and see where you can go from there.

As a Watkins owner in both leagues (just traded him in one), he is beyond frustrating. Not seeing any consistent targets and is getting 95% of his points on a single play.

I love Thomas, but would ultimately decline unless you can get something thrown in... or someone better then Watkins.
12th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league **Champ 20, 21 & 22 **
QB: J. Burrow, M. Jones, B. Zappe
RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

1st Year Superflex PPR (.5 per Rec) 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2WR/RB/TE, 1SF

QB: Herbie, T. Law, B. Young, J. Winston, K. Pickett, M. Willis
RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby TTHTD » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:09 pm

Other interesting guys he owns are Mixon, Howard, Coleman, Wentz, and Zay Jones. He way overvalues 1st rounders though so apparently that is not on the table even for Zeke lol.

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby vbbish » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:12 pm

TTHTD wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:09 pm Other interesting guys he owns are Mixon, Howard, Coleman, Wentz, and Zay Jones. He way overvalues 1st rounders though so apparently that is not on the table even for Zeke lol.
I would take Mixon over Watkins pretty easily. Side of Zay Jones maybe
12th Year Full Dynasty PPR (1 pt. per Rec.) 1QB,2RB,2WR,1TE,1TE/RB/WR 12 team league **Champ 20, 21 & 22 **
QB: J. Burrow, M. Jones, B. Zappe
RB: Breece Hall, J. Gibbs, D. Cook, AJ Dillon, D. Pierce
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Jeudy, R. Moore, K. Shakir, T. Burks, Z. Flowers, S. Moore, J. Reed, J. Metchie, J. Downs
TE: Andrews, J. Johnson, T. Kraft

2024 1.01, 1.02, 1.11, 3.10

1st Year Superflex PPR (.5 per Rec) 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2WR/RB/TE, 1SF

QB: Herbie, T. Law, B. Young, J. Winston, K. Pickett, M. Willis
RB: D. Singletary, E. Gray, E. Wilson, M. Carter, I. Spiller, R. Blackshear, I. Abanikanda, T. Bigsby
WR: D. London, G. Wilson, KJ Osborn, M. Wilson, D. Davis, J. Watson, J. Williams, T, Scott, Q, Johnson, P. Washingon
TE: C. Otton, D. Kincaid, T. Conklin, N. Fant, J, Whyle, M. Mayer

2024 1.05, 2.02, 2.10, 3.02, 3.04

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby Goddard » Sat Nov 18, 2017 7:51 pm

I'd keep Zeke.

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby hankmurphy » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:19 pm

Looks like a pretty good trade to me, but wouldn't you be better off moving Zeke for a QB? You could use the help at WR, but it seems like you're trading your best player while neglecting a glaring hole on your roster.

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:21 am

TTHTD wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:58 pm
vbbish wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 6:56 pm Boy this is close...

From a value standpoint, its on the Thomas side. Team need I would big time put it on the Thomas side especially needing to start 3 WR and only 2 RB's.

But as said above, Zeke is a difference maker. Are you competing this year?
Nope, not competing. I'm 1-9 with no 1st rounder.
Ok then definitely keep Zeke IMO.

In a 10-team league, especially a half PPR, stud RBs are even more untouchable than "normal" dynasty leagues. Zeke is worth a mid-First more than that WR combo IMO, given your situation

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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:24 am

hankmurphy wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:19 pm Looks like a pretty good trade to me, but wouldn't you be better off moving Zeke for a QB? You could use the help at WR, but it seems like you're trading your best player while neglecting a glaring hole on your roster.
eh, they will be fine I'm sure. Luck will be back next year (OP said they're not competing this season) and they've got Jimmy G as well. Not as much certainty as is comfortable, but fine in a 10-team league.
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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby Edgy68 » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:22 am

You've owned Zeke such a short time. You've said you're not competing, so I wouldn't worry about WR starters right now. Holding Zeke until the offseason (after suspension) would allow other owners to covet his services. You should be able to get a better deal later if you want to trade him or use other assets to get WRs.
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Re: Thomas and Watkins for Zeke?

Postby darkadun » Sun Nov 19, 2017 9:09 am

Edgy68 wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:22 am You've owned Zeke such a short time. You've said you're not competing, so I wouldn't worry about WR starters right now. Holding Zeke until the offseason (after suspension) would allow other owners to covet his services. You should be able to get a better deal later if you want to trade him or use other assets to get WRs.
Agree with this. Right now he is probably at his lowest value.
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