Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

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Diggs or Hill

Stephon Diggs
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69%
Tyreek Hill
23
31%
 
Total votes: 74

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby darkadun » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:53 pm

Prefer Diggs too. But it’s close simply due to Diggs injury history so I can see going with Hill.
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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby Bot101 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:54 pm

darkadun wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:53 pm Prefer Diggs too. But it’s close simply due to Diggs injury history so I can see going with Hill.
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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby hjernazian » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:17 am

Surprised at the disparity in responses. It's Diggs - and it's not even close for me. He has giant upside, Teddy is on his way back, and the knocks on him for Theilen don't make sense as they are entirely different type of WRs. Can Jordy Nelson and D. Adams not co-exist? Also, I really don't like Hill so I have to be transparent about that - as an athlete and as a person even less.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:35 am

hjernazian wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:17 am Surprised at the disparity in responses. It's Diggs - and it's not even close for me. He has giant upside, Teddy is on his way back, and the knocks on him for Theilen don't make sense as they are entirely different type of WRs. Can Jordy Nelson and D. Adams not co-exist? Also, I really don't like Hill so I have to be transparent about that - as an athlete and as a person even less.
I agree that it's Diggs for sure IMO, but I have to pick a bone on one of your points:

"Teddy is on his way back"

Why on earth would Bridgewater be a benefit to his WRs? Especially given the fact that Keenum is a gunslinger. Teddy might be the better NFL player, but Keenum is the better QB for fantasy.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby hjernazian » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:07 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:35 am
hjernazian wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:17 am Surprised at the disparity in responses. It's Diggs - and it's not even close for me. He has giant upside, Teddy is on his way back, and the knocks on him for Theilen don't make sense as they are entirely different type of WRs. Can Jordy Nelson and D. Adams not co-exist? Also, I really don't like Hill so I have to be transparent about that - as an athlete and as a person even less.
I agree that it's Diggs for sure IMO, but I have to pick a bone on one of your points:

"Teddy is on his way back"

Why on earth would Bridgewater be a benefit to his WRs? Especially given the fact that Keenum is a gunslinger. Teddy might be the better NFL player, but Keenum is the better QB for fantasy.
You are right. But if we break it down, IMO he is the better QB. That's where the foundation of my logic lies. But again, excellent point about Keenum being a gunslinger, only benefits Diggs' game.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby Samhain34 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:46 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:29 pm
Bot101 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:24 pm Does the QB situation for either team in 2018 move the needle at all?
They shouldn't. Both are total unknowns.
This.

Another thing is that both Diggs (and Thielen) have been making Keenum look good; if they ever get a capable QB back there, watch out. Also, the emergence of Thielen is going to help Diggs. I like Hill as a player, but I give the edge to Diggs, who is reeling in almost 70% of his contested catches, which is absurd.

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:05 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:06 pm
Spongehack wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:40 pm When healthy I would give the edge to Diggs.
When healthy, I think Diggs is a top 8 WR in fantasy. Its Diggs and not close over Hill, IMO (if health wasn't a concern)

That's why I give him the edge over Hill even considering Diggs' soft tissue history.
Hill currently IS healthy and IS a top 8 WR...top 5 i believe (all my leagues are 0.5 ppr)
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


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14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby mike40 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:31 am

As an owner of both I take Diggs. I think he has both a higher floor and ceiling week to week as long as he's healthy. I'm in a full point ppr and even with the 3 games he has missed (including the game he got hurt) he is still the #22 WR in my league. Just make sure you have a good #4WR for the games he's going to miss.
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QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/K/DEF

QB- Wilson (1) Tanehill (1) Jimmy G (3)
RB - Gibson (6) Mixon (2) Ekeler (1) J White (1)
WR -Tyreek(1), Ridley (3), K Allen (4), Fuller (2), Lazard (3)
TE - Ertz (4) Goedert(4), Irv Smith Jr(6)

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby dblj1199 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:43 am

Pretty much on board with most others, Diggs and it would be a much wider margin if he weren't always banged up.
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RB- S Barkley, Pollard, B Hall, K Herbert, D Foreman, R Johnson, Zeke, J Robinson, Z White, J Wilson(i.r.), J McKinnon, J Mason, J Hill
WR- J Jefferson, Deebo, DJ Moore, OBJ, S Moore, J Jennings, C Austin, Trey Palmer
TE- Andrews, Higbee, Dulchich, Ferguson, D Washington
IDP(3)- P Queen,D Perryman, J Jewell, J Campbell, N Dean (i.r.)
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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby MockGM » Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:51 am

I own both and will kind of go against the grain here. It all depends on the format, for PPR I'd probably lean slightly to Diggs, for standard I'd take Hill all day and feel he has the higher upside.

This is completely subjective, but the eye test for me says Hill. The way he moves around the field, his speed and how effortlessly he can blow past other pros looks to be a generational talent.
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QB: Luck $22, Jameis $1, Mariota $1
RB: Saquon $18, D. Johnson $13, Henry $17, Gus Edwards $13, D. Martin $3
WR: Julio $50, Mike Evans $30, Diggs $12, Tyreek $8, Mike Williams $7, Godwin $4, Sutton $6, Agholor $8
TE: Burton $14, Hooper $2
K: Tucker $1
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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby lic217 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:08 pm

I take Diggs pretty easily.

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby topher » Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:16 pm

Diggs for me, would prefer the pure talent and the injuries are not concerning enough for me.

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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:36 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:29 pm
Bot101 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:24 pm Does the QB situation for either team in 2018 move the needle at all?
They shouldn't. Both are total unknowns.
Not really...a lot is up in the air with MIN's QB situation, but KC will 95% likely be starting Smith or Mahomes...I'll take Hill here. The man is TY Hilton lite, so I'll take that over Antonio Brown lite with recurring groin injuries.
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WR: Tyreek Hill, Mike Evans, Cooper Kupp, Michael Gallup, Christian Kirk
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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:16 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:36 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:29 pm
Bot101 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:24 pm Does the QB situation for either team in 2018 move the needle at all?
They shouldn't. Both are total unknowns.
Not really...a lot is up in the air with MIN's QB situation, but KC will 95% likely be starting Smith or Mahomes...I'll take Hill here. The man is TY Hilton lite, so I'll take that over Antonio Brown lite with recurring groin injuries.
So you're saying there's a 5% chance a 3rd QB enters into the conversation, via injuries or something

Out of the 95%, there's probably a 50% chance Smith is the starter

So that means there's a 45% chance Mahomes is the guy there next year. And we do NOT know what he will be. Anyone that thinks he's a known asset is a fool. He is a guy that's pure projection

So yes, I'd say there are a lot of unknowns when it comes to the KC quarterback room
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
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BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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Re: Stephon Diggs or Tyreek Hill *poll*

Postby Ghosted » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:33 pm

It's Diggs, man. He's one of the most underrated route-runners in the league. Creates major separation at all 3 levels, and has a higher-than-league-average catch rate at literally every level of depth-of-target. He's the closest thing to Antonio Brown that we have. Hill in nice too, but I view his route acumen as being a slightly bigger concern than Diggs' injury history, personally.


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