AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

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AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby slaughterrt » Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:59 pm

16 team 2QB tiered ppr league. TE premium. Full IDP. All that good stuff...

I am a strong competitor this year and have been talking to another owner who is in full rebuild.

I have offered him my Allen Robinson (IR obviously) for his AJ Green.

How does this look? I get an upgrade at WR who will play this year and help my lineup. I lose a little bit with Father Time, but am ok with that. Rebuild team gains youth at WR and lessens his starting lineup —> meaning better chance at 1.01 rookie pick. I’m sure he doesn’t want to accidentally win games at this point.

Fair offer or am I low?

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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby Goddard » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:07 pm

Seems like an even deal on both ends, but I like it especially for your team since you're competing.

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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:35 pm

AJG and ARob are a perfect marriage for scenarios like this. I just made a similar move for team 2 (gave up Robinson+ for AJG+)

Super fair and mutually beneficial
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
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BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
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KITTLE, Goedert
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BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby slaughterrt » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:46 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:35 pm AJG and ARob are a perfect marriage for scenarios like this. I just made a similar move for team 2 (gave up Robinson+ for AJG+)

Super fair and mutually beneficial
I’m hoping the other owner agrees.

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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby Kramer » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:52 pm

I'd rather have AJ Green in both scenarios. Too many question marks with ARob right now. I would be willing to do ARob and a late 1st for Green though (assuming you're a contender).
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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby tom14cat14 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:55 pm

Kramer wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:52 pm I'd rather have AJ Green in both scenarios. Too many question marks with ARob right now. I would be willing to do ARob and a late 1st for Green though (assuming you're a contender).
I agree with this 2. I would consider selling green for Arob and a mid 2nd or better.

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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby erkk » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:17 pm

I would rather have AJ Green in this case. Even if you weren’t contending. As stated above, I’d add a pick to get the deal done. Arob has a high upside and that’s the story but we haven’t seen his full potential and we may not given Bortles there. I just traded Arob and 2 firsts for Julio and have no regrets.
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WR - D. Adams, M. Evans, B. Cooks, OBJ, Gallup, John Brown, G. Tate, Mooney, Agholor, Byrd, Duvernary
TE - Gronk, Ertz, Gesicki, Richard Rogers, Everett, K. Smith
K - Koo, Bullock
DT - Richardson, Autry
DE - JPP, D Lawrence, E. Griffen, Idebajeo
LB - B. Martinez, A. Johnson, Schobert, Bostic, Onwusar, Nwosu, Malik Reed, P. Smith
CB - Peters, Desir, Ward, Jonathan Jones, T. White
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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby slaughterrt » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:18 pm

Trade accepted.

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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby Vcize » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:10 pm

erkk wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:17 pm I would rather have AJ Green in this case. Even if you weren’t contending. As stated above, I’d add a pick to get the deal done. Arob has a high upside and that’s the story but we haven’t seen his full potential and we may not given Bortles there. I just traded Arob and 2 firsts for Julio and have no regrets.
That seems like a major overpay.

AJG >> Julio and most seem to have ARob at least near AJG.
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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby wildabeast49 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:34 pm

erkk wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:17 pm I would rather have AJ Green in this case. Even if you weren’t contending. As stated above, I’d add a pick to get the deal done. Arob has a high upside and that’s the story but we haven’t seen his full potential and we may not given Bortles there. I just traded Arob and 2 firsts for Julio and have no regrets.
We havent seen Arob's full potential? So you're saying he's going to go for more than 1400 and 14 sometime... Arob and 2 firsts feels like a big overpay to me as well. I like the op deal as it seems to give both sides what they need.
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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby erkk » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:08 am

wildabeast49 wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:34 pm
erkk wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:17 pm I would rather have AJ Green in this case. Even if you weren’t contending. As stated above, I’d add a pick to get the deal done. Arob has a high upside and that’s the story but we haven’t seen his full potential and we may not given Bortles there. I just traded Arob and 2 firsts for Julio and have no regrets.
We havent seen Arob's full potential? So you're saying he's going to go for more than 1400 and 14 sometime... Arob and 2 firsts feels like a big overpay to me as well. I like the op deal as it seems to give both sides what they need.
Yea, I stand corrected. We certainly have seen his potential. But as an Arob owner I just have been frustrated the last 2 season to the point I may not value him as high now. Especially with his injuries and Bortles’ digression. My point was really that Arob for AJG is a great deal and would add to get the job done since the guy is competing. I also agree that ARob and 2 firsts is a bit of an overpay for Julio (could have used these comments in my Arob for Julio Thread) but I also am in a league where owners overvalue everyone. I’m competing, Arob went down, then OBJ went down, I don’t value picks that much, and so I was willing to add an extra pick to get the deal done. I would disagree that AJG is far greater than Julio. But hey I own both and next year I’ll have OBJ, AJG, and Julio. I can live with that.
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QB - R. Wilson, J. Herbert, Cam Newton, J Stideham
RB - D. Cook, N. Chubb, Miles Sanders, Boston Scott, Duke Johnson
WR - D. Adams, M. Evans, B. Cooks, OBJ, Gallup, John Brown, G. Tate, Mooney, Agholor, Byrd, Duvernary
TE - Gronk, Ertz, Gesicki, Richard Rogers, Everett, K. Smith
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DE - JPP, D Lawrence, E. Griffen, Idebajeo
LB - B. Martinez, A. Johnson, Schobert, Bostic, Onwusar, Nwosu, Malik Reed, P. Smith
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Re: AJ Green versus Allen Robinson

Postby pierson242 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:47 am

Id prefer AJG in both scenarios. Would need at least a 2nd added to Arob
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