Massive trade. For real.

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Massive trade. For real.

Postby PingPwng » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:21 pm

I give: OBJ, AR15, Mixon
I get: Michael Thomas (the good one), Zeke, Corey Davis

Owner hasn't responded yet. Team in sig. Thoughts?
Waiver Warriors|12 Teams|1PPR|1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1FLEX/1K/1DEF Roster 21 '14 R/U '17 Champ No '18 picks
QB:C. Newton/J. Goff
RB:T. Gurley/L. Bell NA/M. Mack/J. Mixon/S. Michel/K. Drake/R. Penny
WR:M. Evans/O. Beckham/T. Hill/ T. Boyd/A. Robinson/C. Godwin/D. Westbrook/A. Callaway
TE: I. Thomas/C. Brate/H. Henry (IR) K - M. Prater DEF - CHI

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby Triton85 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:23 pm

The way I view this:
OBJ for Zeke
Mixon for Thomas
ARob for Davis...

If he accepts I think its an improvement

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby ph7 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:24 pm

No way. Obj injury won't slow him. Mixon elite level talent and Bree's isn't Brady, won't last forever. I lovemzeke but I think the cowboys use the heck out of him and his value is 5 years tops
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RB: Gurley, Cook, Mixon
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RB: Gurley, Cook, Clement, J. Kelly
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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby RTE » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:26 pm

Pick I side. I choose zeke side
12 team 1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 te 1 flex
Qb Wilson, Bortles
Rb Howard, Kerryon Johnson, Duke Johnson, ty Montgomery
Wr Odell, Cooper, Evans, Alshon, Curtis Samuel
TE Jonnu Smith, George kittle, Vance McDonald, Eifert

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:29 pm

obj>zeke
AR15=Thomas (arguments can be made both ways)
Mixon>=Davis
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby PingPwng » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:35 pm

Big portion to consider is that I'm in first and only have competition from 3 other super teams in this league. This would send me over the top with Michael Thomas this year, and possibly Zeke for Weeks 15 & 16 assuming suspension starts this week.

I only need 2 more wins to clinch playoffs and if I win the rest of my games (schedule shows it's possible) then I clinch week 14 bye.
Waiver Warriors|12 Teams|1PPR|1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1FLEX/1K/1DEF Roster 21 '14 R/U '17 Champ No '18 picks
QB:C. Newton/J. Goff
RB:T. Gurley/L. Bell NA/M. Mack/J. Mixon/S. Michel/K. Drake/R. Penny
WR:M. Evans/O. Beckham/T. Hill/ T. Boyd/A. Robinson/C. Godwin/D. Westbrook/A. Callaway
TE: I. Thomas/C. Brate/H. Henry (IR) K - M. Prater DEF - CHI

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:38 pm

You are so massively stacked at RB take out OBJ for Zeke and I would be cool with that. No need to have Gurley, Bell, Zeke, and Jordan Howard when you start max 3
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby PingPwng » Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:45 pm

Do you agree that Zeke could be flipped for bigger capital? The biggest thing about this trade is that I am desperate to clinch this year and I need another WR. I don't think Parker and T. Hill can get me over the hump
Waiver Warriors|12 Teams|1PPR|1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1FLEX/1K/1DEF Roster 21 '14 R/U '17 Champ No '18 picks
QB:C. Newton/J. Goff
RB:T. Gurley/L. Bell NA/M. Mack/J. Mixon/S. Michel/K. Drake/R. Penny
WR:M. Evans/O. Beckham/T. Hill/ T. Boyd/A. Robinson/C. Godwin/D. Westbrook/A. Callaway
TE: I. Thomas/C. Brate/H. Henry (IR) K - M. Prater DEF - CHI

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby Thedudewhogetshigh » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:09 pm

PingPwng wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:45 pm Do you agree that Zeke could be flipped for bigger capital? The biggest thing about this trade is that I am desperate to clinch this year and I need another WR. I don't think Parker and T. Hill can get me over the hump
All I'll say is if I got your offer I'd accept instantly
Team 1.
16 team 24 man roster.
1 Qb 2 Rb 2 Wr 1 flex 1 d 1 k
Qb: Goff, Lynch, Garrapolo
Rb: Cook, Henry, Dixon, Tolbert
WR: OBJ, AROB, C Coleman, J Schuster, R Anderson K White, B Perriman, M Mitchell, L Treadwell, R Higgins G Allison
TE: J Gresham Butt Gathers
D: San Diego Defence
K: D Hopkins,
Team 2. 16 teams
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 2 flex 1 superflex 2te
Qb: C Wentz K Cousins J Garrapalo
RB: D Cook J Mixon Du Johnson T Rawls O Darkwa C carson
Wr: A Brown AJ Green J Jones A Robinson D Funchess C Coleman Q Enuwa B Ellington J Reynolds
TE: H Henry C Fleener A Derby

Team 3. 16 team
1 qb 2 rb 2 wr 1 flex 1 d 1k
Qb: C Wentz
Rb: D Cook Mixon K Dixon, M Mack M Tolbert
Wr: M Evans, O Beckham M Thomas Q Enuwa Z Jones C Godwin
TE: A Hooper
D: Jaguars
K: M Prater

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby PingPwng » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:25 pm

He declined. Said he was giving up way too much. He claimed OBJ won't last as long as Michael Thomas, Corey Davis has more upside than Arob. Guess it's not gonna happen when his asset value is so different than mine.
Waiver Warriors|12 Teams|1PPR|1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1FLEX/1K/1DEF Roster 21 '14 R/U '17 Champ No '18 picks
QB:C. Newton/J. Goff
RB:T. Gurley/L. Bell NA/M. Mack/J. Mixon/S. Michel/K. Drake/R. Penny
WR:M. Evans/O. Beckham/T. Hill/ T. Boyd/A. Robinson/C. Godwin/D. Westbrook/A. Callaway
TE: I. Thomas/C. Brate/H. Henry (IR) K - M. Prater DEF - CHI

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby nathanq42 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:28 pm

PingPwng wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:45 pm Do you agree that Zeke could be flipped for bigger capital? The biggest thing about this trade is that I am desperate to clinch this year and I need another WR. I don't think Parker and T. Hill can get me over the hump
Doubtful you can flip zeke for something better than OBJ. if youre desperate for a WR see who the rebuild teams have. See if the Evans owner would swap if you add something minimal to obj (Or just do mixon and arob for davis and thomas). See if the Julio/AJG/AB/Hopkins owner is willing to add to get OBJ. Try and go after a 1 year guy like Sanu/ Golden Tate/Marvin Jones/Crabtree. Go for cheaper-ish young guys like Landry/Thielen. Try moving J. Howard for a WR, he should command a hefty price.

(just saw the update, this guy is a fool)
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby Coogan Football » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:34 pm

Elliott/Thomas/Davis side by a ton for me.
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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby PingPwng » Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:59 pm

nathanq42 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:28 pm
PingPwng wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:45 pm Do you agree that Zeke could be flipped for bigger capital? The biggest thing about this trade is that I am desperate to clinch this year and I need another WR. I don't think Parker and T. Hill can get me over the hump
Doubtful you can flip zeke for something better than OBJ. if youre desperate for a WR see who the rebuild teams have. See if the Evans owner would swap if you add something minimal to obj (Or just do mixon and arob for davis and thomas). See if the Julio/AJG/AB/Hopkins owner is willing to add to get OBJ. Try and go after a 1 year guy like Sanu/ Golden Tate/Marvin Jones/Crabtree. Go for cheaper-ish young guys like Landry/Thielen. Try moving J. Howard for a WR, he should command a hefty price.

(just saw the update, this guy is a fool)
Julio owner is a Falcons homer, so that's a no go. Hopkins owner took him in a startup and said there is no price for the sentimental value he has for him. AJG owner has no other wide receiver pieces. Same with AB owner. They would be giving up their only WRs. (Aside from waiver wire/bench trash)

He's not a fool, just extremely varied opinion on player value. It's what makes fantasy football fun. There's a way to get what we value and they get that they value in a situation like that. Just obviously didn't work out this time.
Waiver Warriors|12 Teams|1PPR|1QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/1FLEX/1K/1DEF Roster 21 '14 R/U '17 Champ No '18 picks
QB:C. Newton/J. Goff
RB:T. Gurley/L. Bell NA/M. Mack/J. Mixon/S. Michel/K. Drake/R. Penny
WR:M. Evans/O. Beckham/T. Hill/ T. Boyd/A. Robinson/C. Godwin/D. Westbrook/A. Callaway
TE: I. Thomas/C. Brate/H. Henry (IR) K - M. Prater DEF - CHI

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby Hollywood » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:53 pm

I see it like this:

OBJ is better than Thomas but as bad as the Giants have been looking there is some risk.
Zek is who Mixon wants to be so a huge upgrade to get Zeke.
I would take the Zeke/Thomas side of this trade.

ARob is good but he has mostly been living off his one great year 2 years ago.
I think Davis has some huge upside and has a better QB situation.

If OBJ were healthy I would stay pat.
But since he is hurt and you are in the running this year, I take the trade.
Team 1 (superlex):
QB: Mahommes, Geno, Cousins, Ridder
RB: CMC, Javonte, Allgeier
WR: K. Allen, Metcalf, D. Smith, Ridley, Bateman, Burks, Wan'Dale
TE: Higbee

Team 2:
QB: Aaron Rodger, Watson
RB: Alvin Kamara, Zeke, D. Henderson, Mostert, Cohen, Jamaal Williams
WR: Metcalf, AJ Brown, Alen Robinson, Crowder, Lazard
TE: Mark Andrews, Trautman

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Re: Massive trade. For real.

Postby SurgeRUs » Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:55 pm

Zeke side by a decent margin for me. Although I have all 3 of those players so maybe I'm biased.

Zeke = OBJ
MT > ARob
CD > Mixon

Not to mention OBJ and ARob are coming back from pretty significant injuries for a WR.
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1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 SF,


QB: R. Wilson, Tua, Minshew, T. Hill
RB: CMC, A. Jones, D. Foreman, D, Evans, D. Dallas
WR: S. Moore, S. Diggs, J. Jeudy, K. Toney, R. Woods, D. Mooney, DJ Chark, J. Reagor, T. Johnson, P. Campbell, I. Smith-Marsette
TE: T. Kelce, E. Engram, G. Everett, F. Moreau, K. Granson

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1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF


QB: J. Allen, J. Herbert, Mac Jones
RB: D. Swift, K. Hunt, J. Conner, AJ Dillon, C. Hubbard, JD McKissic, S. Michel, R. Burkhead, D. Freeman, J. Jackson
WR: S. Diggs, DK Metcalf, J. Meyers, K. Toney, C. Davis, Q. Cephus, Tre. Smith, K. Bourne
TE: G. Kittle, D. Waller, D. Schultz


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