Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

This is the place for team advice - should I make this trade, should I draft that player, etc.

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Hyde
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Watkins
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Total votes: 23

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Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Fezzik » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:09 am

Pick one. 0.5PPR.
Mud Dogs 0.5PPR
QB (1) - C. Newton, M. Trubisky, R. Tannehill
RB (1) - T. Gurley, C. Hyde, J. Howard, M. Ingram, J. McKinnon, D. Foreman
WR (3) - J. Jones, A. Brown, A. Cooper, L. Fitzgerald, M. Crabtree, D. Moncrief, T. Lockett, J. Gordon, A. Darboh (Taxi)
TE (1) - R. Gronkowski, G. Kittle
Flex (1) - any r/w/t
1.12, 2.12, 3.12

The Brute Squad- PPR of 0.25 for RB, 0.5 for WR
QB (1) - Roethlisberger, Garapollo
RB (1) - A. Peterson, J. McKinnon, T. Gurley, D. Foreman, Burkhead
WR (3) - D. Hopkins, A. Jeffery, D. Parker, S. Shepard, J. Crowder, R. Mathews, M. Williams
TE (1) - R. Gronkowski, ASJ
Flex (1) - any r/w/t
1.12, 2.12, 3.12

Macho Man Randy Savage (Full PPR)
QB (1) - Matt Ryan, T. Taylor
RB (1) - Hyde, Breida, CJA, J. McKinnon, D. Lewis, Mack, Burkhead
WR (1) - O. Beckham Jr., K. Allen, R. Cobb, S. Diggs, Treadwell
TE (1) - Witten, Seferian-Jenkins, OJ Howard
Flex (2) - any r/w
1.01, 2.01, 3.01

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:10 am

if sitting with 0-1 losses hyde, otherwise much rather have watkins and be patient
team 1: 2017 runner up
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Rivers , Kizer, Cutler
K Drake, L Miller, CollinsForeman,gore,woodhead ,Dixon , rawls, ty mont, Ivory,Brieda
K Allen, Evans, Hopkins, Alshon Larry Fitz, doctson, Meredith
Ertz Jimmy G

team 2: 2017 champion
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Dak Prescott, Bortles, P Lynch
Fournette, J HowardMixon,D Henry,D Washington, Rawls, McKissic, Breida, Yeldon
ty hill, Hopkins, AlshonD Thomas,Pryor, Arob IR, Snead, C Coleman, M Bryant
Gronk, Ertz


team 3 DLF Co-Own dynasty
http://www61.myfantasyleague.com/2017/home/68408#1

team 4 ironborn dynasty
https://www55.myfantasyleague.com/2017/ ... =07&F=0010

team 5 NCAA/NFL 2.0 dynasty
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team 6 Marvel vs DC dynasty
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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Triton85 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:11 am

I think I take Hyde in this.... Watkins has shown flashes of talent but has yet to survive a full season. While Hyde comes with similar injury risk I feel like he has the SF spot locked down for at least the next year or two
I-90 Dynasty - Monstars
(10 team, .5PPR, 25 Man Roster, 1QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex. 1Def)
QB: Newton, Carr, Stafford
RB: DJ, Kamara, Mixon, J Williams, Mack, Powell, Booker, McGuire
WR: M Thomas, Landry, ARob, Hilton, Agholor, J. Matthews
TE: Ertz, Njoku, Burton
2017: 2nd Place
2018: 1.03,1.06,2.02,2.09,2.10,3,4,5,6

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Ruggenater » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:17 am

Is this for your Mud Dogs team in your signature? With the RBs you have and the ability to only start up to 2, I'd easily take Sammy here.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: Rodgers, Bortles, Cutler, Tannehill, J McCown, D Webb
RB: L Miller, Martin, Gore, Sims, McKinnon, Collins, Richard, J Rodgers, Dixon
WR: Hopkins, Robinson, Watkins, E Sanders, Maclin, Lockett, J Reynolds, Gabriel, Hollins, R Louis
TE: Kelce, J Smith, Z Miller
2018 Picks (By Round): 1, 2, 4

10 Team 2017 Orphan Takeover - 0.5 PPR - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/DT/2DE/3LB/CB/2S/2DP/K
QB: Dalton, Tyrod, Roethlisberger
RB: L Miller, CJA, Bernard, Powell, T West, Hill, D Foreman, Joe Williams, DeAndre Washington, Smallwood
WR: Jeffery, Watkins, M Bryant, J Matthews, Meredith, Gabriel, Kupp, Agholor, Amendola
TE: Rudolph, Witten, Everett
DT: N Suh, S Richardson
DE: T Flowers, M Ingram, J Clowney, M Wilkerson, Ngakoue
LB: BJ Goodson, M Foster, D Davis, AJ Klein, Schobert, Vigil
CB: J Mills
S: T Jefferson, L Joyner
2018 Picks: 1, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5
2019 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Slackalacker » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:20 am

I'd go with whatever the team needs more, RBs or WRs
10-3 1st seed 1st PF TEAM 1 - 10 team 1ppr 24 man roster dynasty league | Playoff contender 2015-2016
1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/1FLEX
QB: Brady - Luck
RB: Gurley - Fournette - Howard - Rawls - Carson(IR)
WR: AB - AJG - Jordy - CD - MWill - Juju - Fuller - Snead - Jmatt - Doctson - FLASH!(IR)
TE: Engram - Hooper

7-6 Missed Playoffs :(2nd PF TEAM 2 - 12 Team 1ppr 2man keeper | 2015 League Champ, Playoff contender 2011-2017
1QB/2RB/3WR/1WR-TE
QB: Cousins - Mariota
RB: Hunt - CMC - Ajayi
WR/TE: AB - Diggs - Engram - Kupp - Juju - Crowder - FLASH! - OBJ (IR)

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Fezzik » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:33 am

Ruggenater wrote:
Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:17 am
Is this for your Mud Dogs team in your signature? With the RBs you have and the ability to only start up to 2, I'd easily take Sammy here.
Yeah. Last week I had 4 of the top 9 scoring RB's, plus Gurley.
Mud Dogs 0.5PPR
QB (1) - C. Newton, M. Trubisky, R. Tannehill
RB (1) - T. Gurley, C. Hyde, J. Howard, M. Ingram, J. McKinnon, D. Foreman
WR (3) - J. Jones, A. Brown, A. Cooper, L. Fitzgerald, M. Crabtree, D. Moncrief, T. Lockett, J. Gordon, A. Darboh (Taxi)
TE (1) - R. Gronkowski, G. Kittle
Flex (1) - any r/w/t
1.12, 2.12, 3.12

The Brute Squad- PPR of 0.25 for RB, 0.5 for WR
QB (1) - Roethlisberger, Garapollo
RB (1) - A. Peterson, J. McKinnon, T. Gurley, D. Foreman, Burkhead
WR (3) - D. Hopkins, A. Jeffery, D. Parker, S. Shepard, J. Crowder, R. Mathews, M. Williams
TE (1) - R. Gronkowski, ASJ
Flex (1) - any r/w/t
1.12, 2.12, 3.12

Macho Man Randy Savage (Full PPR)
QB (1) - Matt Ryan, T. Taylor
RB (1) - Hyde, Breida, CJA, J. McKinnon, D. Lewis, Mack, Burkhead
WR (1) - O. Beckham Jr., K. Allen, R. Cobb, S. Diggs, Treadwell
TE (1) - Witten, Seferian-Jenkins, OJ Howard
Flex (2) - any r/w
1.01, 2.01, 3.01

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Payton34 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:43 am

SO over Watkins at this point....

Hyde for me.
QBs - Rodgers, Cousins, Tannehill
RBs - E Elliott, L Miller, L Bell, R Jennings, D Williams, Prosise
WRs - J Nelson, S Watkins, D Hopkins, K Allen, D Moncrief, T Benjamin, Ty Williams,
TEs - Z Miller, M Bennett
Ks - D Bailey, R Succop
Ds - Seattle, LA Rams

2017 Picks: 1.2 and 1.3, 2.12
2018 Picks: 1 2nd

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby G-Men » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:59 am

I think i would stay with Hyde as well.
12 teams. Scoring: All Td's are 6 points. 1 point for 50 yards passing, 1 point for every 10 yards rushing or receiving, .5 per reception.
Starting lineup is: QB-1, RB-2, Flex RB/WR-1, WR-1, Flex WR/TE- 1, TE-1, K-1, DEF-1

All Teams have same scoring and starting requirements.

Team #1

QB- Rodgers, Mariotta
RB- Ajayi, Montgomery, Abdullah, J. Stewart, Foreman, J. Allen, Drake
WR- J. Nelson, Cooper, Hopkins, Watkins Snead, R. Mathews, M. Williams, C. Coleman
TE- Rudolph, ASJ, Njoku
K- Elliott
DEF- stream

Team #2

QB- Wilson, Mariota,
RB- Ajayi , Ingram, Crowell, Mixon, Foreman, Gillislee
WR- Cooper, Hilton, Cooks, A Rob, C. Davis, Funchess, Doctson, J. Gordon
TE - Engram, Njoku, Doyle
D- Chiefs
K- Gostkowski

Team #3

QB - Ryan, Stafford
RB - Mixon, Crowell, Collins, McGuire, Gallman, McFadden, Bernard, Rawls, R. Smith
WR- ODJ, Jeffery, Cooks, C. Davis, Maclin, Z.Jones
TE - Kelce, Njoku, ASJ
D- stream
K- Elliott

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby perkinsrooster » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:12 am

Hyde if contending in the next 2 years. Otherwise it's not a bad gamble.

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby albedo1986 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:16 am

If you're getting Watkins? I would probably take it. Everyone that owns watkins right now is selling low and the reality is you just can't sell low. It's bad practice and you're just losing so much value. If you aren't a Watkins believer that's fine but DO NOT sell him low, wait until a sell high moment presents itself...Watkins name alone will allow you to do that in the right situation.
12 team full PPR 1QB/2RB/2WR/4Flex/1TE

QBs: Russell Wilson, Eli Manning, Jimmy Garoppolo
RBs: Jay Ajayi, Derrick Henry, CJ Prosise, Danny Woodhead, Marlon Mack, Austin Ekeler Shane Vareen
WRs: Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins, Devante Parker, Nelson Agholor Tyrell Williams, Chris Conley, Dontrelle Inman, Devin Funchess, Chris Godwin, Michael Floyd, Ricardo Louis, Torrey Smith, Alex Erickson, Austin Carr
TEs: Greg Olsen, Erik Swoope, Zach Miller, Ed Dickson, Ryan Griffin

12 team full PPR 1.5TE premium 1QB/8Flex/1K/1DST

QBs: C Newton, A Dalton, C Palmer
RBs: Duke Johnson, D Booker, Damien Williams, M. Breida, Andre Ellington
WRs: Mike Evans, T.Y. Hilton, B Cooks, Arob, W. Snead, J Maclin, M. Lee, Q. Enunwa, D. Funchess, L. Carroo, JJ Nelson, K. Hogan, A. Darboh., B. Perriman, Albert Wilson
TEs: J Graham, Tyler Kroft, Z Miller, E. Swoope, Jonnu Smith, B Hodges, R Gathers
K: Who cares
DST: Baltimore

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:34 am

Stay with Hyde. If rebuilding it's not a bad price for Sammy to return to what he's flashed as
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, RB/TE flex, 1D, 1K
6th place back to back years :oops:
QB: Russell Wilson, Dalton, Brisset
RB: Dalvin Cook, Mark Ingram, Derrick Henry, Lamar Miller, Jay Ajayi, James White, Lat Murray, Theo Riddick, TJ Yeldon, JD McKissic, P Barber, A Hunt
WR: OBJ, Mike Evans, Jarvis Landry, JuJu Smith, Golden Tate, Sanu, T Gabriel, T Taylor, C Rodgers, M Harris
TE: Kyle Rudolph, Hunter Henry, J Thomas
D/K: Vikings, Patriots, Titans / Houshka BUF, Lutz NO
Taxi- T Boyd, P Lynch,
picks- 2018 1.6, 3.7, 4.7, 5.5 2019 1,2,2,2,3,4

team 2- 12 team ppr, 1QB, 3WR, 2RB, 1TE, 1WR/RB/TE, 1 RB/TE
2017 champions 8-)
QB: Wison, Smith
RB: Gurley, Hyde, Henry, Kamara, Riddick, Brieda, Yeldon, Henderson, P Barber M Brown
WR:Evans, Arob, Diggs, Woods, Williams, Hurns, Wright, Higgins, Austin, Westbrook, Boyd, Godwin, Zamora, Floyd,
TE: Hooper, Doyle Legget, Fells
picks- 2018 1,2,2,3,4,5 all late 2019- 1,2,3,4,5

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Triton85 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:36 am

I honestly think there is safer bets at WR available for the same cost... but I've always liked the safe steady scoring guys vs the boom/bust ones
I-90 Dynasty - Monstars
(10 team, .5PPR, 25 Man Roster, 1QB, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex. 1Def)
QB: Newton, Carr, Stafford
RB: DJ, Kamara, Mixon, J Williams, Mack, Powell, Booker, McGuire
WR: M Thomas, Landry, ARob, Hilton, Agholor, J. Matthews
TE: Ertz, Njoku, Burton
2017: 2nd Place
2018: 1.03,1.06,2.02,2.09,2.10,3,4,5,6

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Vcize » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:41 am

Watkins value continues to fade every day. At least before injuries were the only issue and he produced when he played. Now he's not producing either, and we can't even blame it on him playing on a bad offense.

Hyde meanwhile continues putting up strong RB1 numbers despite playing on one of the worst teams in the NFL and no one is interested. On top of that he'll almost certainly be somewhere new next year so what happens when you put this guy on a team that's not the worst in the league? What happens to his value if he lands in Indy or GB or Philly this offseason?

This is a perfect example of taking actual production over intangible name value. Watkins is just a name at this point.
Team 1 (12 team standard, q/r/r/w/w/f/t/k/d)
QB: Brees, Dak
RB: Bell, D Johnson, Fournette, Lynch, Peterson, Conner, Foreman, Drake, Hightower
WR: Brown, Diggs, Dez, Lockett
TE: Gronk, Graham
K: Tucker
Def: Jags, Texans

Team 2 (12 team PPR, TE Premium, q/r/r/w/w/f/f/t/k/d)
QB: Wentz, Luck, Garropolo
RB: Hunt: Ajayi, Thompson, White, Drake, Foreman, Mckissic
WR: OBJ, Cooks, Benjamin, Moncrief, Richardson, Amendola
TE: Fiedorowicz, Davis, Watson, Derby
K: Zeurlein
D: Broncos

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:45 am

As nervous as I am about Sammy, I'll take him here (assuming its dynasty). Hyde's injury history is just as concerning as Watkins' and Watkins is younger too I believe. Hyde is an above average talent, but Watkins is far above average.
T1
LUCK, Flacco, McCown
ZEKE, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, D Williams, Andre E, R Smith
EVANS/DIGGS/HILTON/THIELEN/WATKINS, C Davis, Sanu, Wallace, Inman, Adam H, Marshall, Dorsett, Hansen, Rudolph
GRONK, Shaheen, Maxx, RSJ, Ben W, Sims
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DL: FLOWERS/HUGHES/ADDISON, Short, Okafor, Malik J
LB: E KENDRICKS, VIGIL, GOODSON, Schobert, Zach C, Morrison, Simon, James, Freeman, Patrick O, Nick K
DB: ADDAE, AMOS, POYER, Farley, Maye, Heath, Simmons, John J

T2
COUSINS, Rivers, Mariota
GURLEY/GORDON/MIXON, Ajayi, Gore, D Williams, Forte, Dayes
AJG/DIGGS/JuJu, Dez, Parker, Crabtree, Crowder, Hogan, M Bryant, Sanders, Wallace, Pryor, Torrey, Rudolph
ENGRAM, Doyle, Ben W, Higbee, Swoope, Vance
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DL: GRIFFEN/BUCKNER/HEYWARD, Wilkerson, Hughes, Wolfe, Autry, Ogbah, Okafor, Longacre
LB: KJW/KIKO/SIMON, Goodson, Klein, Ford, Judon, Coyle, Spaight, Burgess, Humber
DB: CHURCH/ADDAE/POYER/FARLEY, Simmons, Tavon, Phillips, John J, Kindred, Colbert

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Goddard » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:22 am

I seem to always be on the opposite end of the Watkins love. When his value is high, I'm down on him...now his value seems to be at a new low and I'm buying. Give me Watkisn over Hyde.


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