Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

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Pick one:

Hyde
10
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Watkins
13
57%
 
Total votes: 23

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Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Fezzik » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:09 am

Pick one. 0.5PPR.
Mud Dogs 0.5PPR
QB (1) - C. Newton, D. Jones
RB (1) - T. Gurley, N. Chubb, C. Hyde, J. Howard, M. Ingram. J. McKinnon, D. Foreman
WR (3) - J. Jones, A. Brown, A. Cooper, L. Fitzgerald, D. Moncrief, T. Lockett, D. Johnson, Hardman
TE (1) - Kittle, Gesecki, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

The Brute Squad- PPR of 0.25 for RB, 0.5 for WR
QB (1) - Roethlisberger, Rivers
RB (1) - T. Gurley, L. Miller, D. Foreman, J. McKinnon
WR (3) - D. Hopkins, A. Jeffery, S. Shepard, J. Crowder, M. Williams, Humphries
TE (1) - Hockenson, Olsen, Pruitt, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

Macho Man Randy Savage (Full PPR)
QB (1) - Ryan, Darnold
RB (1) - Barkley, Hyde, Breida, Mack, McKinnon, Ajayi
WR (1) - OBJ, K. Allen, R. Cobb, Diggs, J. Brown, Sutton, Isabella, D. Samuel, Slayton
TE (1) - Kittle
Flex (2) - any r/w
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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:10 am

if sitting with 0-1 losses hyde, otherwise much rather have watkins and be patient
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Triton85 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:11 am

I think I take Hyde in this.... Watkins has shown flashes of talent but has yet to survive a full season. While Hyde comes with similar injury risk I feel like he has the SF spot locked down for at least the next year or two

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Ruggenater » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:17 am

Is this for your Mud Dogs team in your signature? With the RBs you have and the ability to only start up to 2, I'd easily take Sammy here.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Slackalacker » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:20 am

I'd go with whatever the team needs more, RBs or WRs
TEAM 1 - 10 team SF 1PPR | 2017 & 2019 League Champ
1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Fezzik » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:33 am

Ruggenater wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:17 am Is this for your Mud Dogs team in your signature? With the RBs you have and the ability to only start up to 2, I'd easily take Sammy here.
Yeah. Last week I had 4 of the top 9 scoring RB's, plus Gurley.
Mud Dogs 0.5PPR
QB (1) - C. Newton, D. Jones
RB (1) - T. Gurley, N. Chubb, C. Hyde, J. Howard, M. Ingram. J. McKinnon, D. Foreman
WR (3) - J. Jones, A. Brown, A. Cooper, L. Fitzgerald, D. Moncrief, T. Lockett, D. Johnson, Hardman
TE (1) - Kittle, Gesecki, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

The Brute Squad- PPR of 0.25 for RB, 0.5 for WR
QB (1) - Roethlisberger, Rivers
RB (1) - T. Gurley, L. Miller, D. Foreman, J. McKinnon
WR (3) - D. Hopkins, A. Jeffery, S. Shepard, J. Crowder, M. Williams, Humphries
TE (1) - Hockenson, Olsen, Pruitt, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

Macho Man Randy Savage (Full PPR)
QB (1) - Ryan, Darnold
RB (1) - Barkley, Hyde, Breida, Mack, McKinnon, Ajayi
WR (1) - OBJ, K. Allen, R. Cobb, Diggs, J. Brown, Sutton, Isabella, D. Samuel, Slayton
TE (1) - Kittle
Flex (2) - any r/w
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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Payton34 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:43 am

SO over Watkins at this point....

Hyde for me.
12 teams, 6pts all TDs, 1/2 pt PPR. 1QB, 1RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1K, 1D, 2 FLEX RB/WR/TE

QBs - P Mahomes, Tua Tagovailoa
RBs - Bijan, J Jacobs, K Walker, B Hall,
WRs - AJ Brown, J Waddle, DJ Moore, T Higgins, D London, Smith-Njigba, J Downs, M Wilson, AT Perry
TEs - D Kincaid, Musgrave
Ks - Boswell, McPherson
Ds - Texans, Jets

2024 - 2 1st rounders... Picks 1.5, 1.7..

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby G-Men » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:59 am

I think i would stay with Hyde as well.
12 teams. Scoring: All Td's are 6 points. 1 point for 50 yards passing, 1 point for every 10 yards rushing or receiving, .5 per reception.
Starting lineup is: QB-1, RB-2, Flex RB/WR-1, WR-1, Flex WR/TE- 1, TE-1, K-1, DEF-1

All Teams have same scoring and starting requirements.

Team #1

QB- Rodgers, Mariotta
RB- Ajayi, Montgomery, Abdullah, J. Stewart, Foreman, J. Allen, Drake
WR- J. Nelson, Cooper, Hopkins, Watkins Snead, R. Mathews, M. Williams, C. Coleman
TE- Rudolph, ASJ, Njoku
K- Elliott
DEF- stream

Team #2

QB- Wilson, Mariota,
RB- Ajayi , Ingram, Crowell, Mixon, Foreman, Gillislee
WR- Cooper, Hilton, Cooks, A Rob, C. Davis, Funchess, Doctson, J. Gordon
TE - Engram, Njoku, Doyle
D- Chiefs
K- Gostkowski

Team #3

QB - Ryan, Stafford
RB - Mixon, Crowell, Collins, McGuire, Gallman, McFadden, Bernard, Rawls, R. Smith
WR- ODJ, Jeffery, Cooks, C. Davis, Maclin, Z.Jones
TE - Kelce, Njoku, ASJ
D- stream
K- Elliott

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Mike from Canada » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:12 am

Hyde if contending in the next 2 years. Otherwise it's not a bad gamble.

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby albedo1986 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:16 am

If you're getting Watkins? I would probably take it. Everyone that owns watkins right now is selling low and the reality is you just can't sell low. It's bad practice and you're just losing so much value. If you aren't a Watkins believer that's fine but DO NOT sell him low, wait until a sell high moment presents itself...Watkins name alone will allow you to do that in the right situation.

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:34 am

Stay with Hyde. If rebuilding it's not a bad price for Sammy to return to what he's flashed as
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Triton85 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:36 am

I honestly think there is safer bets at WR available for the same cost... but I've always liked the safe steady scoring guys vs the boom/bust ones

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Vcize » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:41 am

Watkins value continues to fade every day. At least before injuries were the only issue and he produced when he played. Now he's not producing either, and we can't even blame it on him playing on a bad offense.

Hyde meanwhile continues putting up strong RB1 numbers despite playing on one of the worst teams in the NFL and no one is interested. On top of that he'll almost certainly be somewhere new next year so what happens when you put this guy on a team that's not the worst in the league? What happens to his value if he lands in Indy or GB or Philly this offseason?

This is a perfect example of taking actual production over intangible name value. Watkins is just a name at this point.
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QB: Herbert, Brady
RB: Barkley, Mixon, Jav Williams, Pierce, Drake
WR: Jefferson, AJ Brown, Metcalf, Hopkins, Peoples-Jones
TE: Kittle, Goedert

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:45 am

As nervous as I am about Sammy, I'll take him here (assuming its dynasty). Hyde's injury history is just as concerning as Watkins' and Watkins is younger too I believe. Hyde is an above average talent, but Watkins is far above average.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA

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Re: Sammy Watkins for Carlos Hyde

Postby Goddard » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:22 am

I seem to always be on the opposite end of the Watkins love. When his value is high, I'm down on him...now his value seems to be at a new low and I'm buying. Give me Watkisn over Hyde.


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