Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon? Updated with Jmatt offer

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Which side would you prefer? Team 1 sig

JMatt + 2019 3rd
3
60%
McKinnon
2
40%
 
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Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon? Updated with Jmatt offer

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:16 am

I should have done this the moment McKinnon went down but I thought it would be an ugly 50/50 backfield between him and Latavius Murray. Should have pounced after the first week but I thought it was an outlier. Now it seems the Vikings are finding ways to get McKinnon the speedster the ball and the offense is still humming (albeit against a poor Bears and Green Bay defense). Should I see what I can get McKinnon for, or don't bother and just tank for a better draft pick? I'm 2-4 at the moment due to my poor running back play. What would be a non-overpay for McKinnon?

This is McKinnon's last contract year so he might be on a new team next year... so I'm not guaranteed of taking Dalvin Cook's handcuff which shies me away of this having future value

Update: He's asking for Jordan Matthews and a second. Should I counter JMatt and a 3rd?
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2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
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D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

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2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

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Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
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Re: Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon?

Postby Fezzik » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:56 am

Ultimately this comes down to 2 things. 1) what price you'll have to pay and 2) what you think of McKinnon long term.

I don't think you'll get him for cheap, and here's why.

He's a pretty divisive player. There's a portion of dynasty players (myself included) that look at his otherworldly athletic profile and efficiency/production when he has gotten touches and think, this guy is fantastic (with 2016's offensive line mess being a player killer). Unfortunately for you, this group owns most McKinnon shares at the moment, and as a chartered/founding member of this group, we are not very likely to deal him for cheap. I own him on 3/3 dynasty leagues, and paid a first for him in the middle of 2016.

So if I were you, I'd check it out but wouldn't be surprised if the asking price is pretty high. If you're not a believer in him as a long term asset, given where your team is, I probably wouldn't pay it.

It's my opinion he can be a high end RB2 or back end RB1 on about 18 touches per game in PPR. That's valuable to me. I understand that other people don't feel the same way. Through 2 weeks of getting starting touches this year, he's been the RB2 in PPR. Obviously a very small sample size.
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QB (1) - C. Newton, D. Jones
RB (1) - T. Gurley, N. Chubb, C. Hyde, J. Howard, M. Ingram. J. McKinnon, D. Foreman
WR (3) - J. Jones, A. Brown, A. Cooper, L. Fitzgerald, D. Moncrief, T. Lockett, D. Johnson, Hardman
TE (1) - Kittle, Gesecki, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

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QB (1) - Roethlisberger, Rivers
RB (1) - T. Gurley, L. Miller, D. Foreman, J. McKinnon
WR (3) - D. Hopkins, A. Jeffery, S. Shepard, J. Crowder, M. Williams, Humphries
TE (1) - Hockenson, Olsen, Pruitt, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

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QB (1) - Ryan, Darnold
RB (1) - Barkley, Hyde, Breida, Mack, McKinnon, Ajayi
WR (1) - OBJ, K. Allen, R. Cobb, Diggs, J. Brown, Sutton, Isabella, D. Samuel, Slayton
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Re: Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon?

Postby Slackalacker » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:25 am

I'm not high on McKinnon and don't expect his Hunt-esqe TDs weekly but he may end up like Chris Thompson this year with a bunch of dumpoffs.

I wouldn't pay more than a 2nd
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Re: Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon?

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:49 am

Talked with the owner and he's asking for Jordan Matthews and a 2nd? I think I could talk him into a 3rd. What do you guys think? This place is high on JMatt but I just haven't seen it. I have 4 good WRs and Corey Davis should be showing up so JMatt panning out isn't needed for my team
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
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Re: Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon? Updated with Jmatt offer

Postby skip » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:06 am

Matthews' production was pretty steady his first 3 years in the league in Philly. If he can play that well in Buffalo when he returns then I see no reason to move him for a short term fix in McKinnon. I'm not one to ever speculate on a player leaving one situation for a starting gig on another team. Unless they were the starter on the first team, they rarely end up the starter on the next team.
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Re: Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon? Updated with Jmatt offer

Postby Goddard » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:07 am

I'd rather have Jmatt straight up.

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Re: Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon? Updated with Jmatt offer

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:14 am

Not a fan of Matthews. I'd deal him + 2nd for McKinnon if you're a contender in need of RB help.
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Re: Dalvin Cook owner, should I buy McKinnon? Updated with Jmatt offer

Postby Fezzik » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:44 am

As a McKinnon truther, don't ship Mathews and a pick for him.
Mud Dogs 0.5PPR
QB (1) - C. Newton, D. Jones
RB (1) - T. Gurley, N. Chubb, C. Hyde, J. Howard, M. Ingram. J. McKinnon, D. Foreman
WR (3) - J. Jones, A. Brown, A. Cooper, L. Fitzgerald, D. Moncrief, T. Lockett, D. Johnson, Hardman
TE (1) - Kittle, Gesecki, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

The Brute Squad- PPR of 0.25 for RB, 0.5 for WR
QB (1) - Roethlisberger, Rivers
RB (1) - T. Gurley, L. Miller, D. Foreman, J. McKinnon
WR (3) - D. Hopkins, A. Jeffery, S. Shepard, J. Crowder, M. Williams, Humphries
TE (1) - Hockenson, Olsen, Pruitt, Warring
Flex (1) - any r/w/t

Macho Man Randy Savage (Full PPR)
QB (1) - Ryan, Darnold
RB (1) - Barkley, Hyde, Breida, Mack, McKinnon, Ajayi
WR (1) - OBJ, K. Allen, R. Cobb, Diggs, J. Brown, Sutton, Isabella, D. Samuel, Slayton
TE (1) - Kittle
Flex (2) - any r/w
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