Got an offer from a guy who wants Cohen. I'm not really high on him and I would like another WR who can develop long term, production this year is a plus but I am more looking to the future.
* before you ask, no, even though he came to me he would not be interested in adding. This is strictly a one for one deal if it were to happen.
He has offered either:
Juju: 20, has flashed some potential
Zay Jones: 22, has flashed potential to drop the ball
Would you rather have one of them or Cohen? Zays situation is better this year but he hasn't done anything good with it yet. Would Matthews out a month help build his rapport with Tyrod? Is Juju with his couple flashes and being only 20 the better bet for a more productive career?
Who ya got?
Cohen for Juju or Zay?
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Cohen for Juju or Zay?
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QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau
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QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau
Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
Zay jones has a chanced to become a #1 but JuJu will always be behind AB. They both have upside but its hard to tell 4 games in.
16 team 30 man PPR High scoring format.
QB/WR/WR/RB/RB/WR|TE flex
D/D/DB/DB/DL/LB/LB/LB/CB
Completions .5
Passing Yards 15 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns 10
Interceptions -4
Rushing Attempts .5
Rushing Yards 5
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Receiving Yards 4 yards per point
Receiving Touchdowns 10
Return Touchdowns 20
2-Point Conversions 3
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Kickers
Field Goals
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QB. D. Jones, Herbert,
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Passing Yards 15 yards per point
Passing Touchdowns 10
Interceptions -4
Rushing Attempts .5
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Receiving Yards 4 yards per point
Receiving Touchdowns 10
Return Touchdowns 20
2-Point Conversions 3
Fumbles Lost -4
Offensive Fumble Return TD 20
Kickers
Field Goals
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
Juju for long term production.
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Space Cowboy
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
Zay looks bad, I'd avoid.
Cohen for JuJu is a toss up. Personal preference but I'd lean JuJu.
Cohen for JuJu is a toss up. Personal preference but I'd lean JuJu.
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
Know I own Juju, but he already outright beat Eli Rodgers for WR3 on the Steelers. Production is trending up and he is only 20. Juju for me.
12 team league
25 man roster
8 RB & 9 WR Restrictions
1QB 2RB 2WR 1RB/WR/TE flex 1TE 1K 1 DST
1pt PPR
Qb: Jackson, M. Jones, Huntley
RB: Cook, Chubb, Carson, Gaskin, R. Stephenson, Elijah Mitchell, Jeff Wilson Jr
WR: D. Adams, K. Allen, Juju, M. Williams, OBJ, Tylan Wallace, Darden, Deonte Harris
TE: Kelce, Engram, H. Bryant, Moreau, Gray
DST: Dal
K: Butker
Taxi:
IR:
25 man roster
8 RB & 9 WR Restrictions
1QB 2RB 2WR 1RB/WR/TE flex 1TE 1K 1 DST
1pt PPR
Qb: Jackson, M. Jones, Huntley
RB: Cook, Chubb, Carson, Gaskin, R. Stephenson, Elijah Mitchell, Jeff Wilson Jr
WR: D. Adams, K. Allen, Juju, M. Williams, OBJ, Tylan Wallace, Darden, Deonte Harris
TE: Kelce, Engram, H. Bryant, Moreau, Gray
DST: Dal
K: Butker
Taxi:
IR:
Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
Juju- has been getting red zone targets
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QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
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QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
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Maximus891
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
Cohen is my pick, if youd rather a WR Id go JuJu over Jones easy here. Juju was my WR3 in this draft but he did fall to a bad spot for him to start out. Hope Marty B gets back into smoking pot then his stock will shoot up.
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QB- Rivers, Jimmy G, Flacco
RB- LF, Kamara, Henry, Ito, Barber, RoJo, Harris, Brieda,
WR- Hopkins, Evans, Golladay, Foster, McLaurin, Perriman
TE- Kelce, Eifert, Knox, Gronk
Taxi-R Ridley, Love
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QB- Watson, Goff
RB- Zeke, CMC, Gordon, Chubb, R Freeman, Hunt
WR- MT, M Williams, Kupp, Campbell, Chark, Ross
TE- Henry, Hooper, Andrews
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QB- Stafford, Murray
RB- Cook, Gurley, Lindsay, Mixon, Drake
WR- OBJ, Hopkins, TY, Kupp, K Johnson, Parker, Renfrow, Ross
TE- Kittle, I Thomas
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QB- Wentz, Kelly, Lamar, Brissett, Luck, RG3
RB- Chubb, Cook, KJ, Sony, Montgomery, Gallaman, Sproles
WR- Fuller, Watkins, Sutton, Hollywood, Pettis, Moore, Lee, Funchess, Crowder
TE- Kittle, Henry, Shaheen, LaCosse
Taxi- Gaskins, Love, Harmon, Hurd, Sample
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RB- LF, Kamara, Henry, Ito, Barber, RoJo, Harris, Brieda,
WR- Hopkins, Evans, Golladay, Foster, McLaurin, Perriman
TE- Kelce, Eifert, Knox, Gronk
Taxi-R Ridley, Love
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QB- Watson, Goff
RB- Zeke, CMC, Gordon, Chubb, R Freeman, Hunt
WR- MT, M Williams, Kupp, Campbell, Chark, Ross
TE- Henry, Hooper, Andrews
Team 3 (17/18 Champ)
QB- Stafford, Murray
RB- Cook, Gurley, Lindsay, Mixon, Drake
WR- OBJ, Hopkins, TY, Kupp, K Johnson, Parker, Renfrow, Ross
TE- Kittle, I Thomas
Team 4 SF
QB- Wentz, Kelly, Lamar, Brissett, Luck, RG3
RB- Chubb, Cook, KJ, Sony, Montgomery, Gallaman, Sproles
WR- Fuller, Watkins, Sutton, Hollywood, Pettis, Moore, Lee, Funchess, Crowder
TE- Kittle, Henry, Shaheen, LaCosse
Taxi- Gaskins, Love, Harmon, Hurd, Sample
Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
I would LOVE to get JuJu for Cohen.
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1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
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Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
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AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
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Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
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Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
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surgebird2
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
I'd go Zay Jones over the other two. I think he is more talented than JuJu and has a much better opportunity once he gets up to speed.
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12 Team PPR TEP Superflex, 30 Man Roster (No 2024 Picks)
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE Flex, 1 Superflex
QB: Herbert, Hurts, Purdy, Murray, O'Connell, Lock, Wentz, Mullens (IR)
RB: Taylor, Gibbs, Jav. Williams, Spears, R. Dowdle, K. Mitchell, Rivers (IR), Brooks (IR)
WR: Diggs, Aiyuk, D. Smith, M. Brown, Jam. Williams, D. Douglas, E. Moore, Mims, Toney, Tillman, Tucker
TE: Pitts, Ferguson, Njoku, Musgrave, Bellinger
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Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE Flex, 1 Superflex
QB: Herbert, Hurts, Purdy, Murray, O'Connell, Lock, Wentz, Mullens (IR)
RB: Taylor, Gibbs, Jav. Williams, Spears, R. Dowdle, K. Mitchell, Rivers (IR), Brooks (IR)
WR: Diggs, Aiyuk, D. Smith, M. Brown, Jam. Williams, D. Douglas, E. Moore, Mims, Toney, Tillman, Tucker
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
JuJu has the better profile. I think this is determined, in the long run, by which team can find the better QB after Big Ben retires.
10 team PPR league, 24 man rosters, 5 man taxi, 5 man IR
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
QB: Anthony Richardson, Tua Tagovailoa, Sam Howell, Trey Lance, Hendon Hooker (IR)
RB: Saquon Barkley, Rhamondre Stevenson, Khalil Herbert, Antonio Gibson, Gus Edwards, Jerome Ford, Kendre Miller (TX), Roschon Johnson (TX), Pierre Strong (TX), Tyson Chandler (TX)
WR: Garrett Wilson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba, DJ Moore, Diontae Johnson, Chris Godwin, Terry McLaurin, Kadarius Toney, Jayden Reed, John Metchie, Justyn Ross,
TE: George Kittle, T.J. Hockenson, Chigoziem Okonkwo, Sam LaPorta (TX), Isaiah Likely, Luke Schoonmaker (IR)
Draft Picks
2024: 1st
2025: 1st, 2nd, 3rd
Finishes:
2017 - Last
2018 - 2nd
2019 - CHAMPION
2020 - 7th
2021 - 2nd
2022 - CHAMPION
2023 - TBD
Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
I would go Juju.
Zay is still a good option, I might go for that myself as I own Juju already where I have Cohen lol
Zay is still a good option, I might go for that myself as I own Juju already where I have Cohen lol
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
I would rather own Juju
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
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ChuckDiesel405
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Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
I can tell you that the local Pittsburgh media LOVES JuJu and claims the Steelers do as well. He will be given every opportunity to succeed here. It's not crazy to think he will be the Steelers #2 WR by the end of the season.
Re: Cohen for Juju or Zay?
One rule I've decided to live by is take players you like. You're not high on Cohen and "has flashed potential to drop the ball" (lmao) tells me all I need to know about how little you think of Zay. I like Juju quite a bit and depending on whom his QB turns out to be post Big Ben, he could be a star. Also, Martavis is a head case and the Steelers HATE that. I think he's the #2 by end of year and spends the first few years of his career with AB hogging up the opposing team's best CB (and safety).
I have Cohen, love him, have no intention to move him, and would still be VERY tempted to trade him for Juju.
I have Cohen, love him, have no intention to move him, and would still be VERY tempted to trade him for Juju.
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