Team needs rebuilding?

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Team needs rebuilding?

Postby The Black Swordsman » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:51 pm

Hello. My question is for the team 1 in my sig. I'm 0-3 with lowest point total, thinking about folding up shop and looking towards the future. Thoughts on the following potential trades:


EDIT: Decided to offer some updated trade suggestions in the latest reply. Thanks.
Last edited by The Black Swordsman on Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:25 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Team 1
14 Team Dynasty PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB 1FLEX , 2TS(Taxi Squad) 2IR
QB: Rivers
RB: Gore/Crowell/Kelley/Perine/McFadden/Carson/Darkwa/Conner/Carson/Mike Davis()
WR: Green/Demaryius/Edelman/Chris Godwin/Gordon/D. Byrd/C. Henderson()
TE:[/b])/Henry
DL: David Irving/Melvin Ingram/Ackiem Hicks
LB: Ogletree/Demario Davis/Kyle Van Noy
DB: Kyle Fuller/Adrian Amos

2018: 1st, 2nd and 4th rd pick
2019: 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd pick

Team 2
12 Team PPR Auction Keeper - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, K, DEFENSE
QB: Brady/Goff
RB: Mccoy/Fournette/Lamar/Drake/Conner/Kamara/Latavius/[/b])
WR: Fitz/Marvin Jones/Robby/Corey Coleman/Edelman[/b])
TE: V. Davis
K:Gostkowski
DEF: Ravens/Jags

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby Goddard » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:29 pm

Those offers for Evans are terrible and will get laughed at. The only one I like if you can get it done is Crowell for a 1st.

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby Slackalacker » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:38 pm

Very very highly doubt either Evans trade gets even a counter. The first one is closest but you'd have to add another first for it to not be instantly rejected.

Shipping off Crowell/DT/Kelley could be good options. Not sure you have much else in the way of value granted it is a 14 team league
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1QB/1SF/2RB/2WR/1TE/2FLEX
QB: Dak - Hurts - DangeRuss - Tua - Z Wilson - Mills
RB: Barkley - Zeke - Sanders - Pollard - Patterson - D’Ernest - Jermar - Evans - Jones
WR: Hill - JJeff - Higgins - Hollywood - MThom(IR) - Godwin(IR) - E Moore - Marshall Jr - Calloway - Palmer - D Brown
TE: Hock - Moreau

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby Hottoddies » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:18 pm

Your totally dreaming if you think you could get Evans for that. And draft picks on top? :lol: But it is time to wake up to the reality that you're not going to make it this year. You need to sell Gore, Kelly, Carson, AJ Green, D Thomas, Marshall, and Gates for whatever picks or youth you can get to stock up for your new future. Good luck.
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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby ravn88 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:03 am

What is taxi squad?

I would sell Everything also Rivers.

You need to get no.1 overall.
And a few more do it sooner rather Than later, and to diffrent Players so you get your 1. Round pick spread out on next year and not on 2 or 3 year.

I dont Know og def Players have value, but i would list every thing for sale..

Oh if one Player got 2 first try flipping AJG with him first. Please lets us see the finished results

Good Luck..
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QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

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QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby EAGLES » Sat Sep 30, 2017 5:52 am

The Black Swordsman wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:51 pm Hello. My question is for the team 1 in my sig. I'm 0-3 with lowest point total, thinking about folding up shop and looking towards the future. Thoughts on the following potential trades:

AJG for Evans+1st rd pick 2018
Demaryius+Crowell for Evans+2nd or 3rd pick 2018
Crowell or Demaryius for 1st rd pick 2018
Kelley for 2nd rd pick 2018

Or if you have any other trade suggestions, would be appreciated. Thank you.

EDIT: Thanks for the replies. Thinking about this offer i was offered

2018 1st rounder
2019 1st rounder
(3) 2018 4th rounders

For: Crowell, Gore, and Demaryius - was thinking about trying to change one of the 4th rounders to a 2nd
or 3rd rounder. Was also thinking about offering AJgreen+Kelley(Perine) for Evans+1st or 2nd rounder. Thanks.
That’s not a bad offer; however, I’m not a fan of receiving 1sts past a year especially if you’re in rebuild (sets you back another year). Does the owner have multiple 2018 1sts? Any young talent that could be replaced with the 2019 1st? I would also change those 4ths to at least two 2nds. DT is worth a 1st and 2nd, minimum. Crowell should get you a late 1st and Gore is irrelevant.

AJG and Perine won’t get you Evans. You can’t afford Evans if rebuilding unless you flipped AJG with 1sts you receive by selling your team off. But that would be putting all your eggs in one basket, not worth it.
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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby moishetreats » Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:37 am

I think that your initial offers are as light as the offer that you received.
10 tms 27 plrs PPR
Start: 2QB 2RB 3WR 2TE 2Flex / best ball

QB: Herbert, Love, Rodgers, G Smith, Stidham, T Taylor, Hall
RB: McCaffrey, Mixon, Pacheco, Montgomery, Z White, Allgeier, Dillon
WR: Hill, St. Brown, Kupp, Allen, Lockett, B Johnson
TE: Kelce, Kmet, Kraft, Okonkwo, Dulcich, Tremble

2024: 2.09, 3.07, 3.08, 3.10, 4.08
2025: 2nd (x2), 4th, 5th (x2)
2026: 1st, 2nd (x2), 3rd, 4th, 5th



12 tms 22 active plyrs. Salary Cap $300 PPR
Start: 1QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1SF 1Flex / best ball

QB: Lawrence (contract through 2026), Love ('24), Rodgers ('24), Stidham ('25), Lock ('25)
RB: Bijan Robinson ('25), Pollard ('27), Dillon ('24), Rodriguez ('24), Spiller ('24)
WR: G Wilson ('26), AJ Brown ('26), DJ Montgomery ('25)
TE: --
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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby The Black Swordsman » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:27 pm

Trade AJG+2019 1st rounder for Evans+2018 1st rounder
Trade AJG for Gurley(owner also has elliott and fournette but funchess is his best receiver)
Gore for a 2018 3rd rounder
Crowell for a 2018 2nd rounder
Demaryius for a 2018 1st rounder or 2018 2nd rounder+ a wr2/rb2
Team 1
14 Team Dynasty PPR - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB 1FLEX , 2TS(Taxi Squad) 2IR
QB: Rivers
RB: Gore/Crowell/Kelley/Perine/McFadden/Carson/Darkwa/Conner/Carson/Mike Davis()
WR: Green/Demaryius/Edelman/Chris Godwin/Gordon/D. Byrd/C. Henderson()
TE:[/b])/Henry
DL: David Irving/Melvin Ingram/Ackiem Hicks
LB: Ogletree/Demario Davis/Kyle Van Noy
DB: Kyle Fuller/Adrian Amos

2018: 1st, 2nd and 4th rd pick
2019: 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th rd pick

Team 2
12 Team PPR Auction Keeper - 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1FLEX, K, DEFENSE
QB: Brady/Goff
RB: Mccoy/Fournette/Lamar/Drake/Conner/Kamara/Latavius/[/b])
WR: Fitz/Marvin Jones/Robby/Corey Coleman/Edelman[/b])
TE: V. Davis
K:Gostkowski
DEF: Ravens/Jags

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby Dunville » Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:42 pm

Trade AJG+2019 1st rounder for Evans+2018 1st rounder
I would do this Evans is a top 3 start up receiver IMO

Trade AJG for Gurley(owner also has elliott and fournette but funchess is his best receiver)
I would also do this but prefer the trade above

Goare for a 2018 3rd rounder
Anything for Gore for a rebuilder is better than the nothing he'll be worth at seasons end

Crowell for a 2018 2nd rounder
If you can do it I would, but would be hard to get given how poorly he's performed lately

Demaryius for a 2018 1st rounder or 2018 2nd rounder+ a wr2/rb2
Depends where the 1st is, but this is also a tough one given how badly he scored in his last game, also depends on the WR2

Overall these are logical trades for a rebuild if you can push them over the line
12 Team 1 pt PPR
1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3Flex 1K
QB Stroud Tua
RB Bijan, Gibbs, Jamaal, CEH, Allgeier, Brown
WR Hill, JJ, AJB, Keenan, ReedReed, Thielen, Boyd, Iosivas, Tucker
TE Hockenson Ferguson,
K Elliot
1DT 2DE 3LB 1CB 2S 1Flex
DT Donald Zach Allen
DE Crosby, Van Ness, Turner, Wonnum,
LB Greenlaw, Kendricks, Bernard, Mosley, McFadden, Barton, Overshown, Cashman, Henley
CB Stream
S Bynum, Blankenship fuller, grant,
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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby AugieFootball50 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 2:13 pm

Evans deal all day.

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby jman3134 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:22 pm

I would go for the Evans deal. In terms of players who you should target, maybe look for undervalued young players in bad situations that could change. So, try to buy low Jordan Matthews, Sterling Shepard, Josh Doctson, Kenneth Dixon, Dalvin Cook, ARob, Corey Coleman, Will Fuller, Terrelle Pryor, Devin Funchess, John Ross, Mike Williams etc.
12 team, 35 man rosters, 1/2 PPR, 10 round rookie/FA draft
Qb: Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford, Trey Lance
Rb: Jonathan Taylor, Joe Mixon, Austin Ekeler, Saquon Barkley, Cam Akers, Isiah Pacheco, Jeff Wilson, Chase Edmonds, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Jaleel McLaughlin
Wr: DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diontae Johnson, Darnell Mooney, Marquez Valdes-Scantling, Jakobi Meyers, Laviska Shenault, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Denzel Mims, Richie James, Michael Wilson, Demario Douglas, Trent Sherfield
Te: George Kittle, Darren Waller, Taysom Hill, Isaiah Likely
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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby philsrule06 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:38 pm

If you give up every player & your 1st born child you still won't land Evans. Nearly impossible to acquire him without destroying your team. I like the DT, Crowell & Gore deals. Start unloading older or unproductive players & build toward the future.
PPR league, 1.5 PPR TE 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 2 flex(RB,WR,TE), 1 TE, 1 K, 1Def

QB- Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees
RB- Devanta Freeman, Kareem Hunt, Mark Ingram, Chris Carson, Chase Edmonds
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Antonio Brown, Ty Hill, E. St. Brown
TE- Zach Ertz, Kyle Rudolph, Jack Doyle
K- Brett Maher
Def- Chargers


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Same scoring as above

QB- Derek Carr, Pat Mahomes
RB- Kareem Hunt, M. Gordon, M Breida
WR- Stefan Diggs, Larry Fitz, C. Ridley, DJ Moore, J Brown, J Ross
TE- Olsen, Hurst, I. Thomas
K- J Tucker
Def- Chiefs

Team 3
Same scoring as above

QB- Justin Herbert, Tua
RB- Devin Singletary, Raheem Mostert, Myles Gaskin. Marlon Mack
WR- Deandre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Copper Kupp, Russell Gage, KJ Hamler, Julian Edelman
TE- Travis Kelce, Robert Tonyan
K- Brandon McManus
Def- Bills, Dolphins

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby sloth8u » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:30 pm

your team is not good. the play is to sell, not buy. i dont mean to be disrestpectful, but the only guys that id give a future 1st for is green and dt... and id add something small...but just trying to give you an assessment of the value on that team.....your better off to ride it out and hope for a thomas or hunt to fall to you in the draft. there just isnt much value there imo. hopefully you own your 1st.

im sure your season would be going much different if the players that you were counting on were performing. your season is likely over, but the great thing about dynasty is that you can run the same team back again next year.

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Re: Team needs rebuilding?

Postby Mitchbs » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:40 pm

Sorry man but none of those Evans offers are close. I'd be selling everyone for any picks you can get. Target the D.Cook/A-Rob owner as well.
Team 1 - Old King Clancys - 12 Team IDP PPR / 2015 Runner-Up, 2016 Champions, 2018 Champions
(1QB/1RB/4 FLEX/1TE/1PK/1PN/2DE/3LB/2DB)
QB: Brees/Mariota
RB: Gordon/Crowell/White/Murray/Ajayi/I.Smith
WR: OBJ/Nuk/Cooper/Boyd/Lockett/MVS/Sanu/Sanders
TE: Kelce/Goedert/Smith/Uzomah
PK : Fairbairn
PN: Dickson
DE/DT: Ingram/Beasley
LB: David/T.Smith/McKinney/J.Brown
DB: Nea/lJenkins/Maye


Team 2 - Yeti Crabs - 10 Team 2 QB PPR TE PREM IDP
QB: Cousins/Keenum/Mahomes/Hundley
RB: Barkley/Cook/Henry/Gallman
WR: Evans/Cooper/A-Rob/Brown/Kirk/Hurns/Boyd
TE: Graham/Hooper/Higbee/Jonnu/Butt
DT: Short/Atkins
DE: Hunter/Wilkerson/Allen
LB: Hicks/Lee/McKinney/Davis/Perryman
CB: Hayward/Darby
S: Neal/Vacarro/Peppers/Williams


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