Wrong forum but need league advice pls

[Ski mask ready]

Commissioner here. New league, 1st season. Got a problematic owner who I knew in my gut I should have replaced prior to the draft, but didn't... After the draft then I REALLY new he should have been replaced. Still didn't..... Now were here at week 3. He's made it known he isn't planning on sticking around, and making tons of trades with his team. Some good, some questionable. Obviously making a run to win now. Question is, he's made it known he isn't going to be around. He's been the center of some league problems already. He's paid this yr, but not in good league standing financially because of future draft picks he's already traded. I'm worried about what the state will his team be in if I wait to find a replacement owner until next yr. More than half of our owners have said cut losses and move on, with finding a replacement. The Bylaws allow us to vote an owner out at anytime with a minimum of 8 of the possible 12 votes.

Do I put it to league vote now or just wait till he decides he's done??

Just to be fair, he technically hasn't broken any rules besides not being in good standing financially with league structure, along with everything else stated above.....

[saw061600]

I like when the commish has to approve trades, even if they never stop a trade from going through unless there is a violation. In this case, IF the by-laws state you have to be paid for the year of draft picks being traded, then the trades involving future picks wouldn't have been processed since the owner is in violation.

[vixen]

you should put a rule in place that if an owner trades a 1st one year out, they owe at least half of next season fees...

[Ski mask ready]

Those stipulations are in place. Future trades picks must be accompanied with payment in full for said yr. it’s not that the picks he’s traded are a problem, although he still haven’t paid for next yr. It’s just the dude in general. He’s made it clear he’s only in it for the yr and quiting. Do I get ahead of this and replace him or just let him run the team possibly into the ground??

[hockeyBjj]

Your rules make it simple. If he trades a draft pick of a year, he either has to pay for that year: or not make that trade. Undo his trades involving that year's picks and after this year he's gone, and his team for a new owner won't be in too horrible of shape since it'll have all the picks.

[onetwothree]

Nothing wrong with going for broke this year as long as he follows the already set rules with trading future picks. If he hasn't paid for future years then he can't trade that pick. Keep it simple.

[derekhiny]

I'm confused. So your rules DO stipulate that some form of payment must be made towards next season if future draft picks are traded, but you allowed trades to go thru without the payment being made? That's not his fault. That's your fault, and very bad commish-ing on your part. He has done nothing wrong up to this point and should not be kicked out of the league mid season. He has paid for this year and can run his team as he sees fit. And, no, you cannot and should not reverse the trades after the fact, especially if the trades happened in previous weeks with the players already playing on their new teams. Now you're involving changing the weekly scores, and subsequently, the possible outcomes that are already final. Seriously not trying to be a dick, but you never should have allowed the trades to go thru in the 1st place without future payment. This is on you. This type of scenario is the exact reason you have those rules in your by-laws to begin with. No point in having them if you're not going to enforce them.

[Ski mask ready]

this is not about the trading of his future draft picks, or failure to pay for 2018 in which he traded those picks away.

This is about the several statements he's made about not playing after this year. Given he's made it clear he doesn't plan on playing past this yr or next, should I remove him now before there are anymore trades made with his team? As commissioner I see it being a conflict of interest for everyone else in our league knowing an owner is not going to be around to own the mess he is making with his team, and he's actively making moves that will affect our ability to find a replacement owner for his team based on personal and assets.

The guy is going to quit. Do I let him continue to change the landscape of a team he's going to bail on. That affects everyone in my league when he bails. Especially if the team will take several years to turn around.

[Orenthal Shames]

I'm confused. So your rules DO stipulate that some form of payment must be made towards next season if future draft picks are traded, but you allowed trades to go thru without the payment being made? That's not his fault. That's your fault, and very bad commish-ing on your part. He has done nothing wrong up to this point and should not be kicked out of the league mid season. He has paid for this year and can run his team as he sees fit. And, no, you cannot and should not reverse the trades after the fact, especially if the trades happened in previous weeks with the players already playing on their new teams. Now you're involving changing the weekly scores, and subsequently, the possible outcomes that are already final. Seriously not trying to be a dick, but you never should have allowed the trades to go thru in the 1st place without future payment. This is on you. This type of scenario is the exact reason you have those rules in your by-laws to begin with. No point in having them if you're not going to enforce them.

Long time commish here, have to unfortunately agree completely with this. The lack of rule enforcement has brought about the issues, far more so than an owner leaving.

[EAGLES]

this is not about the trading of his future draft picks, or failure to pay for 2018 in which he traded those picks away.

This is about the several statements he's made about not playing after this year. Given he's made it clear he doesn't plan on playing past this yr or next, should I remove him now before there are anymore trades made with his team? As commissioner I see it being a conflict of interest for everyone else in our league knowing an owner is not going to be around to own the mess he is making with his team, and he's actively making moves that will affect our ability to find a replacement owner for his team based on personal and assets.

The guy is going to quit. Do I let him continue to change the landscape of a team he's going to bail on. That affects everyone in my league when he bails. Especially if the team will take several years to turn around.

You allowed the trades to go through without receiving some form of payment for next year; so, that, unfortunately, is on you as the commish. However, if you are concerned about him bailing and making trades then do not allow anymore trades to be made with him. Reach out to him and let him know he still owes money for the previous trades (he may not even know the bylaws state payment is due for any future trades made).

Stop any future trades, but don’t make changes to previous trades. If he doesn’t pay, you’ll have to ride this year out, but be prepared to have him replaced for next season.

[smbkrypt24]

I'm confused. So your rules DO stipulate that some form of payment must be made towards next season if future draft picks are traded, but you allowed trades to go thru without the payment being made? That's not his fault. That's your fault, and very bad commish-ing on your part. He has done nothing wrong up to this point and should not be kicked out of the league mid season. He has paid for this year and can run his team as he sees fit. And, no, you cannot and should not reverse the trades after the fact, especially if the trades happened in previous weeks with the players already playing on their new teams. Now you're involving changing the weekly scores, and subsequently, the possible outcomes that are already final. Seriously not trying to be a dick, but you never should have allowed the trades to go thru in the 1st place without future payment. This is on you. This type of scenario is the exact reason you have those rules in your by-laws to begin with. No point in having them if you're not going to enforce them.

Long time commish here, have to unfortunately agree completely with this. The lack of rule enforcement has brought about the issues, far more so than an owner leaving.

Agree with this. You are saying there is a rule that members have to pay the year they trade their draft picks, tell us next years picks are already traded, and then say he hasn't paid for next year. You also state that this isn't about him trading his 2018 picks, but that is a huge reason why that team could be in shambles for someone to try to rebuild without draft picks. So I think your focus needs to shift to why didn't he pay for 2018 if he traded those picks?

[IR1]

Reach out to him and let him know he still owes money for the previous trades (he may not even know the bylaws state payment is due for any future trades made).

Stop any future trades, but don’t make changes to previous trades. If he doesn’t pay, you’ll have to ride this year out, but be prepared to have him replaced for next season.

This

[Favrezilla]

Nothing wrong with going for broke this year as long as he follows the already set rules with trading future picks. If he hasn't paid for future years then he can't trade that pick. Keep it simple.

THIS.

Sucks but that's just how it is...I'm in a league with a group of friends and 1-2 owners continually make horrible trades with their close friends where they think it's even and it's just garbage. Not much we can do and can't kick a close friend out of the league.

- Freeman for 1.6 and doctson (he took hunt but it was before the Ware injury)
- TY for Marshawn and a laaaate 2018 1st

That kind of stuff.

[onetwothree]

this is not about the trading of his future draft picks, or failure to pay for 2018 in which he traded those picks away.

This is about the several statements he's made about not playing after this year. Given he's made it clear he doesn't plan on playing past this yr or next, should I remove him now before there are anymore trades made with his team? As commissioner I see it being a conflict of interest for everyone else in our league knowing an owner is not going to be around to own the mess he is making with his team, and he's actively making moves that will affect our ability to find a replacement owner for his team based on personal and assets.

The guy is going to quit. Do I let him continue to change the landscape of a team he's going to bail on. That affects everyone in my league when he bails. Especially if the team will take several years to turn around.

So what if he "lies" and says he changed his mind and will be back?

As long as the trades he makes are "fair" and an attempt to win, then you need to let him play. If you can't/don't want to deal with that, then refund him his money THIS YEAR and drop him from the league. Otherwise his status next year should NOT have any bearing on his trades.

[Mr.Winitall]

Going to go against the grain here and say I would strongly consider replacing him. If he has made it known he is leaving next year and is destroying the future value of the team, you are going to have trouble finding someone to take over an orphan with no value for years to come. Someone joining a dynasty league with the intention of playing 1 year and killing the future value of the team to win that year hurts the league overall and should not be in the league. At the least though, I would stop allowing him to make trades.