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superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:13 am

i have an owner coming hard at me for Carr

i really like Carr and believe it or not, with the insane scoring in this league, i think i have a good chance at the playoffs

---superflex/TE premium 1-2QB 1-6RB 2-7WR 1-6TE (10 total)
R/W=.2ppc/1ppr/.25pt per target TE=1.5ppr/.35per target/.15per yd
also .1pt per return yd/.05 per attempt
Wilson, Carr, Stafford, Kaepernick, Kelly
Cook, Abdullah/Zenner, Dion/White, Ivory, Sproles, McGuire
Watkins, Lockett, Jo Brown, Patterson, Funchess, DGB/Agholor, K Wright, Kupp, Ch Williams, Darboh, Kearse, D Thompson, A Wilson
Gronk, Reed, Ertz, Swoope

his latest offer is:
i get Luck and Hilton
i give Carr
that seems like a great offer, but what do we know about Luck's injury? is this a career problem, or just this season? this owner also needs RBs..
he has expressed no interest in Wilson, but i could try to do something like wilson and sproles (could even throw in a 3rd round pick) for Luck

what are your thoughts on the trade offered (luck/hilton for carr) or should i counter with wilson/sprole/3rd for Luck?
thanks for you opinions
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: superflex trade

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:16 am

Jeez that seems like a really good offer. You'd still have 2 QB's and you could buy a cheap 3rd one.

edit: Your RB's and WR's are in pretty bad shape, I think you should take this

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Re: superflex trade

Postby EAGLES » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:20 am

I have a bad feeling about Luck. The Colts have done nothing to help ensure his longevity in the league. He’s had multiple injuries due to all the hits he takes. When I think of Luck, RG3 comes to mind (yes, Luck is extremely more talented). RG3 was ran into the ground and injury after injury riddled him. IMO, Luck is on the same path of an injury career.

With that said, I’m keeping Carr (I’m high on him too) and I’d make the counter with Wilson to see what he says.
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Re: superflex trade

Postby slaughterrt » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:25 am

Would definitely keep Carr and Stafford unless you get a ridiculous overpay. Both of them are in their prime and have great passing offenses around them. Move Wilson because he is definitely a step down from the other two.

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Re: superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:29 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:16 am Jeez that seems like a really good offer. You'd still have 2 QB's and you could buy a cheap 3rd one.

edit: Your RB's and WR's are in pretty bad shape, I think you should take this
yes, they appear terrible, but this is crazy scoring and i can start all 3 of my TEs...so this team is much better than it looks on paper..

cook and james white are currently ranked RB15 and RB16
return yds increase the value of lockett and patterson
lockett, agholor, kearse, kupp, patterson and thompson are all top 30 for WRs (also watkins now, but he has played one more game than the rest of the WRs)
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: superflex trade

Postby Kramer » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:31 am

Luck > Carr
Hilton > Nothing
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds

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Re: superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:52 am

Kramer wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:31 am Luck > Carr
Hilton > Nothing
it sure seems like it, but at this point i think that is not the case...i am still considering, but both are unstartable right now
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:53 am

so, how about Luck for Wilson and james white?
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: superflex trade

Postby Seventy5 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:54 am

Hilton is free here, and its not like he's some minor secondary piece being thrown in. Luck>Carr the minute reports of Luck being cleared to even practice, so if you can sort out a cheap QB2 to start until luck comes back, this is a no brainer.

Yea it will suck not having carr for a few weeks until Luck comes back, but remember the big picture here. Anybody preferring Carr over Luck right now is stuck in redraft mode, and I am a Raiders fan saying that
DLF HOF League | 16 Team 1PPR 1QB-2WR-2RB-1TE-2FL:
QB: Deshaun Watson | Stafford | Purdy | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley |DeVon Achane | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Joe Mixon / Chase Brown | Tucker
WR: Tyreek Hill | Rashee Rice | Tank Dell
WR: Stefon Diggs | DeVonta Smith | MWilliams | Claypool | C Austin
TE: Higbee | Likely | Chig Okonkwo | Strange
2023: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3

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QB: Joe Burrow | Mayfield | Hooker
RB: Saquon Barkley | Tank Bigsby | Deuce
RB: Alvin Kamara | Aaron Jones | JK Dobbins | Sean Tucker
WR: Ja'Marr Chase | Christian Watson | Hyatt | Shenault
WR: Keenan Allen | Marquise Brown | Calvin Ridley | Addison | Claypool | C Jones | Shakir
TE: Sam LaPorta | Strange | Jonnu
2023: 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2

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Re: superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:58 am

so do you like
i give wilson and white (or abdullah)
i get luck

OR
i give Carr
i get Luck and Hilton
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:05 am

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Last edited by vixen on Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:17 am, edited 2 times in total.
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: superflex trade

Postby smbkrypt24 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:09 am

I like the original offer as well as the offer you later stated. Take the deals.
12 Team PPR Dynasty. Start 1 QB, 1 RB, 1 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex (RB/WR/TE), 1 K, 1 D, 21 roster spots.

2013 Startup
Team 1- 3rd in 2023
QB: Herbert, B. Purdy, Fields
RB: Bijan, Barkley, Akers, Dobbins
WR: T. Hill, D. Johnson, JSN, Doubs, Meyers, Thomas, Toney
TE: Andrews, Likely, Dulcic

2024: 1.01, 1.07
2025: 1, 2, 2

2019 Startup
Team 2- 4th in 2023
QB: Murray, Cousins, Wilson
RB: Bijan, Kamara, Dobbins, Rodriguez
WR: Chase, G. Wilson, D. Adams, Di. Johnson, M. Wilson, W. Robinson, R. Rice
TE: McBride, Pitts, Kmet, Likely

2024: 1.01, 1.06, 1.08, 2.09
2025: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3

2021 Startup
Team 3- 11th in 2023
QB: Goff, Watson, Cousins, Levis, Rodgers, Young
RB: Gibbs, Pacheco, Dobbins
WR: Chase, J. Jefferson, JSN, Palmer, Mooney, Tillman
TE: Schultz, Pitts, Likely, Okonkwo

2024: 1.01, 1.02, 1.03, 1.04, 2.03, 2.06, 2.07, 2.10, 3.03, 3.06, 3.08
2025: 1, 2, 3

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Re: superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:21 am

so, my thought process
1. will Luck (or Indy) be able to figure this out, without getting injured each season
2. will Wilson (and Seattle) turn this around, or is it time to sell him while i can
3. can Carr keep this up, or am i overvaluing him

do i give up a little extra to rid myself of Wilson or do i get a little extra and move Carr
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris

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Re: superflex trade

Postby EAGLES » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:26 am

I’d want Carr over Wilson, personally. I’d start with him and see what they say
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Re: superflex trade

Postby vixen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:36 am

E-A-G-L-E-S wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:26 am I’d want Carr over Wilson, personally. I’d start with him and see what they say
i own Carr...i am the one that would get Luck
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris


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