Trade offer for Cohen

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Trade offer for Cohen

Postby scottishmeatball2 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:01 pm

I was given this offer for Tarik Cohen, I'm curious how high everyone's opinion is of him.

Rob Kelley and a likely late 2nd for Cohen. I at the very least will be countering for a more likely early 2nd.

Also I traded away my rookie picks in the startup.
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby mclilj » Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:41 pm

wait you're getting the 2nd AND rob kelley? instant accept and it's not close IMO
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby Dougiefresh37 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:03 pm

No way..kelley stinks. Keep cohen
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:11 pm

Keep Cohen.
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby G-Men » Thu Sep 21, 2017 7:51 pm

Not a Kelly fan either so i would keep Cohen as well.
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby fantasydem » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:00 pm

mclilj wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:41 pm wait you're getting the 2nd AND rob kelley? instant accept and it's not close IMO
Not sure what you see in Kelley, he's a bum. I'll take Cohen easily.. especially with the trades I've been seeing the past few days

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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby MikeHoncho » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:05 pm

mclilj wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:41 pm wait you're getting the 2nd AND rob kelley? instant accept and it's not close IMO
^
Found the guy who offered you the trade :D

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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby HughHoney » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:36 pm

MikeHoncho wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:05 pm
mclilj wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2017 12:41 pm wait you're getting the 2nd AND rob kelley? instant accept and it's not close IMO
^
Found the guy who offered you the trade :D
Lol. Yep, Cohen by a lot here.

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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby esloan35 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:29 am

Keep Cohen at this point.

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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby saw061600 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:45 am

Cohen's hype (and potential if you're not completely locked into the "size matters" thought process) value is more than Kelly and a 2nd.
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby NY CAT » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:49 am

Piling on.

Kelley is garbage.

I packaged Cohen with Cobb and was able to get M. Bryant and A. Abdullah.

You can get more for the rookie sensation.

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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby Balzac » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:03 am

Kelly is in fact not garbage, but sure continue your narrative DLFers. Cohen has more perceived value, but as usual he is being way overvalued after 2 games. The 2nd alone should be worth more than him.
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby cvbuc » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:07 am

Balzac wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:03 am Kelly is in fact not garbage, but sure continue your narrative DLFers. Cohen has more perceived value, but as usual he is being way overvalued after 2 games. The 2nd alone should be worth more than him.
This is not a wise statement. Trading Cohen for a middling 2nd doesn't make much sense from a quantatative standpoint at this point. You're selling a lottery ticket direct hit for another lottery ticket in roughly the same range? Sure, a lot of us got Cohen in the 3rd and even later - but pure odds of hitting on a random 2nd make this a bad type of deal to pursue for Cohen.

Obviously, you trade Cohen if you can get a first. But I think the smarter approach is akin to a lot of the deals I've seen mentioned above - to package him and a position player for an upgrade over that position player.

Trading him for Kelly - who has no draft pedigree or measurables to back him up and the coaching staff took Perine for a reason - is an exercise in dumping a rising asset for a short term sinking asset.

I do believe Cohen is a flip player (much like I argued a lot over the offseason on this forum that Howard was as well) - but he's a GOOD flip player that requires something beyond a maybe RB starter and a lottery ticket.
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby thomasscheeks » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:22 pm

Keep Cohen here but shop him around. He's likely to get injured eventually and his value will plummet
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Re: Trade offer for Cohen

Postby Space Cowboy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:25 pm

Cohen will catch 70-80 passes for 600 yards and run for another 500/600. He's worth more than a second and place holder at RB.


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