Watkins for C. Davis

[gogobradyarm]

This is tough. I'd probably lean Watkins side because he already has proven he can ball on the NFL field. I think Corey Davis will be great, but I'm a Sammy truther and think him and Goff are going to shred for a long time (assuming he resigns).

[cvbuc]

Watkins > Davis

I'd take the Sammy side. What's really the worry with Sammy... injuries? Davis isn't proving to be that much more durable at this point. We're seeing first hand what Goff is capable of with the tutelage of an actual NFL quality coach. Watkins is also only 18 months older than Davis.

I like Davis. i like Sammy more.

[thomasscheeks]

This is the type of trade I avoid. Lateral trade with risk on both ends. What's the point?

[Kramer]

Watkins has at least shown elite production in the NFL. Davis has yet to do that. I get that injuries are a concern for many with Watkins, but as someone stated, Davis isn't the picture of clean health right now either. I'd take Watkins both in a rebuild and for sure as a contender. I think both are great assets to own long term though and either way you won't be disappointed, but as of now, we don't know what Davis' ceiling in the NFL can be. We know what Watkins is capable of doing as evidenced by his game yesterday.

[skip]

Seriously, how is that even related to his "risk". Every NFL player has equal risk of head injures.

This is only true for players who haven't had concussions. Once you've had one, you become more at risk to get another one. And the more you have, the higher the chances, and so on and so forth...
Like I said earlier, the concussion doesn't worry me longterm, but just another frustrating injury for a player who seems to get hurt frequently.

To my knowledge, once you've had a concussion, future ones can be more serious or last longer. But having had one does not increase the risk of getting another. If you can find something that suggests otherwise, I'd like to see it. At this point, there is still far too much research to be done to make definitive statements. I've even seen information that indicates concussions do not get worse in their severity, only the length at which they may last increases.

[IR1]

may not be the best source(quickest I could find), but concussion risk does go up after first
https://www.sports-health.com/sports-in ... sk-factors

[Goddard]

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/n ... -of-more#1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK185336/

Not sure how relevant these are (quick Google search), but I would assume it doesn't help if you've had past concussions with future ones. And yes, if you've had one, future concussions can be more serious and last longer. And it takes less to get a concussion according to the second article when you've had one before or aren't completely recovered from one.

Regardless, this is getting away from the point I was making. I already stated that the concussion wouldn't worry me about Sammy's long-term outlook. I only mentioned it because it's just another annoying injury for an owner to have to deal with.

[AresGodOWar]

does Sammy's big TNF game change anything here?

It should remind people of what he is as a talent, and honestly what he has been for the majority of his career. He's realistically had one lost season and other than that he's been on Evans' career track

, Watkins easy for me I'll take the guy that puts up Julio type numbers when healthy over a rookie that is already hurt and hasn't shown anything in the NFL yet , I mean even in college he didn't play college level players

[onetwothree]

I mean even in college he didn't play college level players

Are we still using this argument that has been debunked multiple times already?

If your team is competing now, go Watkins. If you're a year away, get Davis. I think long term they'll be comparable with McVay getting the most out of Watkins regardless of QB and Mariota taking care of Davis regardless of exotic smashmouth.

[AresGodOWar]

I mean even in college he didn't play college level players

Are we still using this argument that has been debunked multiple times already?

If your team is competing now, go Watkins. If you're a year away, get Davis. I think long term they'll be comparable with McVay getting the most out of Watkins regardless of QB and Mariota taking care of Davis regardless of exotic smashmouth.

Yeah he played in a pass happy division in college I think he is overrated.. Can he be good maybe but why take a chance for Watkins that is very young and elite when he is healthy plus Watkins went from a bottom of the barrel pass team to a pretty good passing team once Goff really gets going , And Davis is on a bottom 5 passing team

[Seventy5]

Watkins = Davis for me. Just a matter of personal preference.

With that said, Davis may be the safer investment from a value standpoint. Even if he doesn't light the world on fire, he will be afforded 1-2 years by the dynasty community to develop before they drastically lower his value. While Sammy is arguably more talented and I think has a higher ceiling, he's teetering on a Ryan Mathews-like value cliff; if he has another major injury or doesn't play well, he will fall pretty far in ADP and 'market' value (remember Mathews was going in the 1st-2nd round of start ups a few years ago off just hope/potential and a few flash games).

l'd swing for the fences on Watkins if I was a contender, and take Davis if I were rebuilding just because I feel he is a safer bet to at least maintain current value over the next 12-16 months.

[onetwothree]

Yeah he played in a pass happy division in college I think he is overrated.. Can he be good maybe but why take a chance for Watkins that is very young and elite when he is healthy plus Watkins went from a bottom of the barrel pass team to a pretty good passing team once Goff really gets going , And Davis is on a bottom 5 passing team

That's the problem right there. You're banking on his health.

I also think you have a lot of facts on Davis very wrong.