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Dalton is worth more than Garoppolo right now regardless of team situation. If you're rebuilding and want to move to JG. I would wait for Dalton to have a couple good games (which he will) and then move for JG+.
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RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
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WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
I went with Dalton. Same reasons as above. But if Jimmy was starting on another team I might have gone with him.
Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
Sad that the one with the correct response is going to lose $100.
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RB - Bijan Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Tony Pollard. Najee Harris, Javonte Williams, Rachaad White, D'Andre Swift
WR - Justin Jefferson, Ja'Marr Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jerry Jeudy, Kyle Pitts, George Pickens, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney
K - Daniel Carlson
IDP - Nick Bolton, Devin White, Derwin James
QB - Patrick Mahomes, Trevor Lawrence
RB - Bijan Robinson, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Tony Pollard. Najee Harris, Javonte Williams, Rachaad White, D'Andre Swift
WR - Justin Jefferson, Ja'Marr Chase, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jerry Jeudy, Kyle Pitts, George Pickens, Jameson Williams, Kadarius Toney
K - Daniel Carlson
IDP - Nick Bolton, Devin White, Derwin James
Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
It's not a superflex. And Josh McCown is also a starting QB. Neither are the litmus test here. This is a talent question and, right now, Dalton may not have a job by December for a reason.
Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
Not only is history of production heavily on the side of Dalton, Garropolo is still years away from starter relevance, if ever.
This is a classic mistake in believing that situation makes a player. Even assuming Garropolo is starting in New England in a couple years, he still isn't Tom Brady. He will be lucky to have half the career of Dalton or be as productive.
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
As mentioned earlier, not wild about either, but Dalton easy for me
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RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
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DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston
Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
Yep it has to be Dalton. As much as he has sucked these 2 games Jimmy has done absolutely nothing and will continue to do nothing until he is traded for way too much. NE kept him because they knew they can get better offers later on, not because they think he will be the next Brady.
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
Dalton by a lot.
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QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
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RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
Okay, I'm confused. You specifically referred to it as a "dynasty rebuild" and then immediately go on to say that rebuilding status shouldn't be considered. Which is it?Bradycross888 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:48 pm what QB would you rather have going forward in a Dynasty Rebuild (take contender/rebuilder/league format/etc. out of the equation), Jimmy Garoppolo, or Andy Dalton. Only qualifier is assume you already have a starting QB for the current year.
Just straight up, who you taking for your squad?
I voted for Garappolo based on the rebuilding aspect. If I own my own pick(s) and I'm not trying to win at all, I'd take Jimmy G just for the slim hope that he turns into something special. We already know what Dalton is, so why risk screwing up your draft position for a replacement level QB?
But in literally any other scenario outside of a full-on rebuild, it's Dalton and it's not close.
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TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
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QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
Votings closed thanks everybody.
Basis for debate: I have Andrew Luck and he has Mariota/Wentz in our league. He called me an "Idiot" for rostering Garoppolo which I couldn't resist laughing at since he is currently rostering Andy Dalton as his 3rd qb.
Knowing I'll never have a use for a backup QB (once Luck is healthy) after I'm done with my rebuild, I would much rather take the gamble on the unknown of JG becoming a superstar. I've seen Dalton for years and it's becoming more and more apparent his season a few years ago was an outlier and he has already peaked (in my opinion). Give me the upside play any day.
Thanks for the discussion!
Basis for debate: I have Andrew Luck and he has Mariota/Wentz in our league. He called me an "Idiot" for rostering Garoppolo which I couldn't resist laughing at since he is currently rostering Andy Dalton as his 3rd qb.
Knowing I'll never have a use for a backup QB (once Luck is healthy) after I'm done with my rebuild, I would much rather take the gamble on the unknown of JG becoming a superstar. I've seen Dalton for years and it's becoming more and more apparent his season a few years ago was an outlier and he has already peaked (in my opinion). Give me the upside play any day.
Thanks for the discussion!
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QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K D - 12 team PPR, .25 Point per carry
Andrew Luck, Jimmy Garoppolo
Alvin Kamara, Saquon Barkley, Matt Breida, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny, Derrius Guice
Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Stefon Diggs, Corey Davis, John Brown, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jamison Crowder, Tyrell Williams, Chris Conley
Zach Ertz, David Njoku, Vance McDonald
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2020: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3
2021: 1, 2, 3
2022: 1, 2, 3
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Andrew Luck, Jimmy Garoppolo
Alvin Kamara, Saquon Barkley, Matt Breida, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny, Derrius Guice
Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Stefon Diggs, Corey Davis, John Brown, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jamison Crowder, Tyrell Williams, Chris Conley
Zach Ertz, David Njoku, Vance McDonald
K. Fairbairn
Denver
2019: 1, 3, 3
2020: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3
2021: 1, 2, 3
2022: 1, 2, 3
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
Sooooo. You lost $100????Bradycross888 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:59 am Votings closed thanks everybody.
Basis for debate: I have Andrew Luck and he has Mariota/Wentz in our league. He called me an "Idiot" for rostering Garoppolo which I couldn't resist laughing at since he is currently rostering Andy Dalton as his 3rd qb.
Knowing I'll never have a use for a backup QB (once Luck is healthy) after I'm done with my rebuild, I would much rather take the gamble on the unknown of JG becoming a superstar. I've seen Dalton for years and it's becoming more and more apparent his season a few years ago was an outlier and he has already peaked (in my opinion). Give me the upside play any day.
Thanks for the discussion!
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Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
16 Team 0.5 ppr
QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
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K: Koo
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Jackson, Tua, Bridgewater
Sutton, ARob, Higgins, D. Harris
Barkley, Chubb, McKissic, D. Williams, Felton
Piits, Tonyan, Smith
LB: Wilson, Parsons, Milano, Reddick, Baker, Greenlaw, Walker Jr.
DL: C. Heyward, Flowers, Hunter, Franklin-Myers
DB: Harrison Smith, Abram, Davis III, Bradberry, Maye
Team 2
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QB:Jackson, Mills, Eason, Newton
RB: Barkley/Najee/Gaskin/Hines/Sony/Johnson, Stevenson
WR: Chase/Juju/Aiyuk/Mike Williams/Beasley/N. Harry/Will Fuller/Cephus/D. Brown
TE: Pitts/Knox
DST:49ers, Titans
K: Koo
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Mixon, Lindsay, Drake, Hines, Murray, Carter
Hopkins, M. Williams, Chase, McLaurin, Ridley, Samuel, Washington, Davis, D. Brown
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
I would rather have Dalton in your situation and Jimmy in his. lolBradycross888 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2017 6:59 am Votings closed thanks everybody.
Basis for debate: I have Andrew Luck and he has Mariota/Wentz in our league. He called me an "Idiot" for rostering Garoppolo which I couldn't resist laughing at since he is currently rostering Andy Dalton as his 3rd qb.
Knowing I'll never have a use for a backup QB (once Luck is healthy) after I'm done with my rebuild, I would much rather take the gamble on the unknown of JG becoming a superstar. I've seen Dalton for years and it's becoming more and more apparent his season a few years ago was an outlier and he has already peaked (in my opinion). Give me the upside play any day.
Thanks for the discussion!
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
This was fun to look back on
23 Man Rosters
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K D - 12 team PPR, .25 Point per carry
Andrew Luck, Jimmy Garoppolo
Alvin Kamara, Saquon Barkley, Matt Breida, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny, Derrius Guice
Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Stefon Diggs, Corey Davis, John Brown, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jamison Crowder, Tyrell Williams, Chris Conley
Zach Ertz, David Njoku, Vance McDonald
K. Fairbairn
Denver
2019: 1, 3, 3
2020: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3
2021: 1, 2, 3
2022: 1, 2, 3
QB 2RB 3WR TE FLEX K D - 12 team PPR, .25 Point per carry
Andrew Luck, Jimmy Garoppolo
Alvin Kamara, Saquon Barkley, Matt Breida, Sony Michel, Rashaad Penny, Derrius Guice
Antonio Brown, Michael Thomas, Stefon Diggs, Corey Davis, John Brown, DJ Moore, Courtland Sutton, Jamison Crowder, Tyrell Williams, Chris Conley
Zach Ertz, David Njoku, Vance McDonald
K. Fairbairn
Denver
2019: 1, 3, 3
2020: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3
2021: 1, 2, 3
2022: 1, 2, 3
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I was reading this without realizing the date it was posted and was pretty confused lol...
Jimmy G by a mile now.
Jimmy G by a mile now.
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Re: Help Settle a $100 bet!!
You were right for the wrong reasons.
Luck was out for the year and instead of Jimmy G staying to take over NE he went SF where he shined.
Dalton was... DALTON !
But Marvin is still around so the Red Rifle gets another chance with a ton of bullets. AJ,Mixon, Gio, Ross, Eifert may be back ... I don't think it's a slam dunk over the next 2-3 years
Luck was out for the year and instead of Jimmy G staying to take over NE he went SF where he shined.
Dalton was... DALTON !
But Marvin is still around so the Red Rifle gets another chance with a ton of bullets. AJ,Mixon, Gio, Ross, Eifert may be back ... I don't think it's a slam dunk over the next 2-3 years
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