Cohen vs. Howard

[joekuhns11]

Anybody know what's going on here? I just was offered Howard straight up for Cohen!

Who's the back to own and why?

[lukkynumber13]

Give me Howard. I've always thought he was closer to Jeremy Hill than Zeke, but I see him being a solid RB2 for a few years. I don't want the next Dion Lewis

[jonf86]

I own both. Howard is still light years ahead of Cohen in my book. It's one game. Howard and Cohen can coexist too. The entire Bears WR core is injured. This is likely going to be a tough year for Howard, but still a big believer in his ability.

[Coogan Football]

Why are you coming here to ask? Hurry and take it before your trade partner comes down off that meth high that he's on lol

[Ryantacular]

Why are you coming here to ask? Hurry and take it before your trade partner comes down off that meth high that he's on lol

I seriously hope you accepted already

[Maximus891]

I told some pals Cohen would be starter in Chi before the season was over and got him everywhere in the offseason, I'm keeping Cohen here and I know I'll be in the minority. He'll put up better numbers every week then Howard will especially in a PPR

[jonf86]

I told some pals Cohen would be starter in Chi before the season was over and got him everywhere in the offseason, I'm keeping Cohen here and I know I'll be in the minority. He'll put up better numbers every week then Howard will especially in a PPR

As you said though, you're in the minority. I'll go so far as to say you are in the extreme minority. If you don't believe in Howard, trade him for a better return than Cohen. If you desperately need to have Cohen, find a way to do it without giving up Howard. We all have our preferences, but it's important to first take advantage of the perceived value of players.

[Maximus891]

I told some pals Cohen would be starter in Chi before the season was over and got him everywhere in the offseason, I'm keeping Cohen here and I know I'll be in the minority. He'll put up better numbers every week then Howard will especially in a PPR

As you said though, you're in the minority. I'll go so far as to say you are in the extreme minority. If you don't believe in Howard, trade him for a better return than Cohen. If you desperately need to have Cohen, find a way to do it without giving up Howard. We all have our preferences, but it's important to first take advantage of the perceived value of players.

Normally I agree with you take the trade, but Id look to trade Howard right away if you do. I'm keeping Cohen over Howard though, they have no pass game and can't run Howard when they stack the box on him so give me the speedster with moves that can't be tackled. There is value with both as mentioned above but my answer to the question on back to own is Cohen. Ive never been a Howard believer he was one of my must sells this off season and I made out like a bandit lol

[Goddard]

I can't believe that's a real offer.

[Phaded]

I will be in the minority; but if I was offered Howard straight up for Cohen I would not take it.

Full disclosure, I have never believed in Howard.

[jonf86]

I will be in the minority; but if I was offered Howard straight up for Cohen I would not take it.

Full disclosure, I have never believed in Howard.

I just don't understand this line of thinking. What has Cohen done to justify being in the same conversation as a lead back who rushed for 1300 yards with over a 5 yards/carry clip in essentially 13 games (at least as a starter)?

Cohen doesn't have the draft pedigree, he doesn't have the production, he doesn't have the prototypical size. I'm shocked that even the biggest Howard doubters would take Cohen over him. I considered myself fairly high on Cohen before reading this thread, but I suppose I'm not if it takes Howard to get him.

[EAGLES]

Howard easily. I hope you accepted it!

[Phaded]

I will be in the minority; but if I was offered Howard straight up for Cohen I would not take it.

Full disclosure, I have never believed in Howard.

I just don't understand this line of thinking. What has Cohen done to justify being in the same conversation as a lead back who rushed for 1300 yards with over a 5 yards/carry clip in essentially 13 games (at least as a starter)?

Cohen doesn't have the draft pedigree, he doesn't have the production, he doesn't have the prototypical size. I'm shocked that even the biggest Howard doubters would take Cohen over him. I considered myself fairly high on Cohen before reading this thread, but I suppose I'm not if it takes Howard to get him.

Howard is nothing special. He had inflated stats last year from breaking big runs against poor defensive plays. One of the biggest things in Howard's favour was projected workload but even that has taken a hit. He is a very inefficient runner and became overvalued very quickly.

Cohen is heavily involved in the passing game and as I play PPR, that is what I look for. I do not think Cohen will ever be a feature back and he does not need to be.

Why would you bring draft pedigree into the discussion as a knock against Cohen? You do realize Howard was drafted in the 5th and Cohen was in the 4th, right?

[Cameron Giles]

Howard is the better long-term own. The issue right now with the Bears is that their offensive line isn't at complete strength and teams don't respect the passing game. So, essentially you can load the box and play man with the secondary. Also, Howard is battling some sort of shoulder injury.

I told some pals Cohen would be starter in Chi before the season was over and got him everywhere in the offseason, I'm keeping Cohen here and I know I'll be in the minority. He'll put up better numbers every week then Howard will especially in a PPR

Cohen will never start. He's not a between-the-tackles runner and he's too small. If you played Cohen every down, he would get injured very quickly.

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I'll go so far as to call anyone passing on this offer a fool. Might as well pick DMC over Zeke or Conner over Bell.