Amari Cooper

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Re: Amari Cooper

Postby Goddard » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:24 pm

After two games, he's outscored AJG, Michael Thomas, and Doug Baldwin (just to name a few players). Obviously he hasn't looked great, but I can't believe people are ready to jump ship so soon. I'm not even the biggest Cooper fan, but if I can get him from a panicking owner for a discount, I'm buying all day.

77/1,109/5.5 - those are his averages from his first 2 years in the league.

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Re: Amari Cooper

Postby moishetreats » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:26 pm

Cooper truthers aren't buying him because they anticipate that he'll be in the OBJ/Evans tier or have the Brown/Julio/Green/Jordy production lines -- though he does that have upside. They're buying him in part because of that upside but mostly because his FLOOR profiles as a D. Thomas/Fitzgerald type. If you knew for a fact that Thomas/Fitz would have the careers that they would have, then you'd have paid a lot for them their rookie season. It's a reasonably same prediction that that is Cooper's floor -- and you almost never see that in a 23-year old WR.

Heck, I consider Cooper's floor higher than OBJ's or Evan's floor. Obviously, I'd take OBJ or Evans first. But, as a dynasty asset, that floor hold extraordinary value to many. Two games don't change that.

All that being said, if you sell now, odds are that you're getting 90% of his value. If you're not a believer and think that he'll tank, then trade him now for that 90%. A Cooper truther, though, holds him as a top-5 value but will almost never pay that price: he'll be hoping that, at some point, his owner sours on him because he doesn't quite hold that ceiling that OBJ/Evans holds, and he's waiting to buy when he can get any kind of discount. So, sell now if you want out, but accept 90% of his value -- which is still a lot, by the way... -- SF/2QB league website

Tm 1: 10 tms. 27 plyrs, PPR
Start: 2 QBs 2 RBs 3 WRs 2 TEs 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Prescott, Taylor, Hundley
RB: Gurley, Gordon, Mixon, Riddick, Foreman, Carson
WR: Hilton, Baldwin, D Thomas, Doctson, Anderson, Ty Williams, Z Jones
TE: Reed, Howard, J Smith, Kittle, Swoope, Butt, Seals-Jones, Vannett

2018 Picks: 3.04, 3.09, 5.01, 5.02
2019 Picks: 1st (x2), 2nd (x2), 3rd (x4)
2020 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 5th (x2)

Tm 2: 12 tms. 22 plyrs, max 2 {IR}, max 4 [Taxi]. Salary Cap: $300. PPR
Start: 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 1 Superflex 1 Flex / best ball

QB: Luck ($34 through 2021), Prescott (42/20), Winston (35/19), Kizer (18/21)
RB: Foreman (9/20), Crowell (7/19)
WR: Jordy (4/18), Fitzgerald (4/18), Maclin (3/18), Marshall (2/19)
TE: Gronk (2/20), Vannett (1/19)
Total + dead cap hits (2018): $139

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