Amari Cooper

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Re: Amari Cooper

Postby Goddard » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:24 pm

After two games, he's outscored AJG, Michael Thomas, and Doug Baldwin (just to name a few players). Obviously he hasn't looked great, but I can't believe people are ready to jump ship so soon. I'm not even the biggest Cooper fan, but if I can get him from a panicking owner for a discount, I'm buying all day.

77/1,109/5.5 - those are his averages from his first 2 years in the league.

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Re: Amari Cooper

Postby moishetreats » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:26 pm

Cooper truthers aren't buying him because they anticipate that he'll be in the OBJ/Evans tier or have the Brown/Julio/Green/Jordy production lines -- though he does that have upside. They're buying him in part because of that upside but mostly because his FLOOR profiles as a D. Thomas/Fitzgerald type. If you knew for a fact that Thomas/Fitz would have the careers that they would have, then you'd have paid a lot for them their rookie season. It's a reasonably same prediction that that is Cooper's floor -- and you almost never see that in a 23-year old WR.

Heck, I consider Cooper's floor higher than OBJ's or Evan's floor. Obviously, I'd take OBJ or Evans first. But, as a dynasty asset, that floor hold extraordinary value to many. Two games don't change that.

All that being said, if you sell now, odds are that you're getting 90% of his value. If you're not a believer and think that he'll tank, then trade him now for that 90%. A Cooper truther, though, holds him as a top-5 value but will almost never pay that price: he'll be hoping that, at some point, his owner sours on him because he doesn't quite hold that ceiling that OBJ/Evans holds, and he's waiting to buy when he can get any kind of discount. So, sell now if you want out, but accept 90% of his value -- which is still a lot, by the way...
Tm 1: 10 tms. 27 plyrs, PPR
Start: 2 QBs 2 RBs 3 WRs 2 TEs 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)

QB: Rodgers, Wilson, Prescott, Hundley, Osweiler, Fitzpatrick, Webb
RB: Freeman, Gurley, Crowell, Mixon, Riddick, Conner
WR: Cooper, Hilton, Jordy, Baldwin, D Thomas, Ty Williams
TE: Reed, Walker, Fiedorowicz, Howard, J Smith, Kittle, Swoope, Butt

2018 Picks: 5th (x3)
2019 Picks: 3rd (x2), 4th (x3), 5th (x)



Tm 2: 12 tms. 22 plyrs, max 2 {IR}, max 4 [Taxi]. Salary Cap: $300. PPR
Start: 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 1 1 Superflex 1 Flex / best ball

QB: {Luck ($34 through 2021)}, Winston (35/19), Roethlisberger (37/17), McCown (4/19), Fitzpatrick (1/17), Petty (1/17)
RB: Montgomery, (3/18), Ajayi (9/20), Crowell (7/19), Ingram (16/18), McKinnon (1/17)
WR: A Brown (60/18), Green (42/17), Jordy (4/18), Tate (11/17), Crowder (2/18), Fitzgerald (4/19), Sanu (1/1), Snead (1/17)
TE: Gronk (2/20), Smith (1/21), Kendricks (1/17), G Celek (1/17), {Swoope (1/19)}
Total + dead cap hits: $300


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