Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

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Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby jcollins11 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 5:57 pm

Taking a look at my first team below, I've got great WR depth and garbage RBs.

I was offered Ingram for my Dez. Dez is obviously better but given my roster should I consider this?
I had initially asked for Ajayi for Dez. He also has Zeke and Cook but I think those are untouchable.

Thoughts?
The Slaughterhouse - 10 Team League - 0.5 PPR - Keeper League - Keep 8
Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE/WR, TE, DST, K

QB - Brady, Wentz
RB - Rawls, Perkins, White, Perine, C.Carson, J.Williams
WR - A.Brown, Dez, DT, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diggs, C.Davis
TE - Hooper
DST - DEN
K - Hauschka

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PFFL - 12 Team - 24 Roster Spots - Start 1QB, 2RB, 1WR, 3 Flex, 1K
QB: D. Brees, B. Osweiler
RB: D Washington, J McKinnon, A Morris, M Asiata, F Whittaker
WR: D Baldwin, Q Enunwa, S Shepard, L Treadwell, B Coleman, B Perriman, M Mitchell, C Givens, C Hogan, P Dorsett, M Wheaton, Ty Williams
TE: L Green, D Pitta, V Green, J Thomas
K: B McManus, C Sturgis

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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby dazza » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:28 pm

It likely helps your team this year, but I wouldn't make that trade. Since you can only start 3 RB, he's basically offering you his likely bench RB for Dez. I just don't see the value. If he's not willing to move Ajayi or Cook I'd look for a different trade partner
Team 1 (10 Team .5 PPR Roster=25)
1-2 QB, 2-5 WR, 2-4 RB, 1-3 TE, 4 IDP
QB: ARod, Jameis, Wentz, Trubisky, Mahomes
WR: OBJ, Hopkins, Baldwin, Watkins, C Davis, JJSS, JGord
RB: DJ, Zeke, Howard, Kamara, Mixon, Henry
TE: Graham, Howard
IDP: Deion Jones, Martinez, Shazier, R Foster

Team 2 (10 Team .5 PPR Roster=25)
1-2 QB, 2-5 WR, 2-4 RB, 1-3 TE, 4 IDP
QB: Wentz, Eli, Trubisky, Mahomes, Gabbert
WR: AB, Watkins, E Sanders, C Davis, M Williams, Doctson, JGord
RB: DJ, Le'Bell, Howard, Mack, Jones
TE: Kelce, Howard
IDP: DeJo, L Collins, R Foster, Ragland

Team 3 (12 Team .5 PPR Roster=26)
QB, 2-5 WR, 2-4 RB, 1-3 TE, 2 CB, 2DE, 2LB
QB: Wentz, Mahomes
WR: Jordy, Keenan, M. Jones, C Davis, M Williams, Kupp, C Coleman
RB: Cook, Ingram, Kamara, Abdullah, Woodhead, Burkhead, D'Onta, Drake, Booker
TE: Kelce, Evan Engram
IDP: DL Mack, Clowney DB Hyde, Ha Ha LB DeJo, R Foster (start 2 each)

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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby EAGLES » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:36 pm

Dez >>Ingram get more on top of Ingram if you're sending Dez
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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby jcollins11 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:41 pm

What about DT for Ingram? Maybe have him throw Henry in?
The Slaughterhouse - 10 Team League - 0.5 PPR - Keeper League - Keep 8
Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE/WR, TE, DST, K

QB - Brady, Wentz
RB - Rawls, Perkins, White, Perine, C.Carson, J.Williams
WR - A.Brown, Dez, DT, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diggs, C.Davis
TE - Hooper
DST - DEN
K - Hauschka

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PFFL - 12 Team - 24 Roster Spots - Start 1QB, 2RB, 1WR, 3 Flex, 1K
QB: D. Brees, B. Osweiler
RB: D Washington, J McKinnon, A Morris, M Asiata, F Whittaker
WR: D Baldwin, Q Enunwa, S Shepard, L Treadwell, B Coleman, B Perriman, M Mitchell, C Givens, C Hogan, P Dorsett, M Wheaton, Ty Williams
TE: L Green, D Pitta, V Green, J Thomas
K: B McManus, C Sturgis

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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby Hottoddies » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:44 pm

You definitely need to trade your surplus WRs for better RBs. Either find another trading partner or perhaps ask for him to add a TE to Ingram since you could use some help there as well.
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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby EAGLES » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:51 pm

I still like DT more than Ingram, if you can get him to add Derick Henry on top that, it would make it more close.

This guy is trying to get a top WR (as up and down as he may be) for dirt cheap. My advice, let your league know youre fielding offers for Dez. Try to get a good RB1 out of it, you need that.
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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby KMA » Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:55 pm

I don't think I would do Dez for Ingram either. Dez is the WR1 on his team. Ingram is gridlocked in a timeshare. Pass.
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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby Hottoddies » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:27 pm

KMA wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:55 pm I don't think I would do Dez for Ingram either. Dez is the WR1 on his team. Ingram is gridlocked in a timeshare. Pass.
I love Dez, but he has a pretty brutal schedule this year. Since this is for an 8-man keeper league, I think you have to look at it more from a redraft perspective. And I wouldn't be overly concerned with Ingram's usage. He's the most talented and versatile player in that backfield. Peterson's just an overgrown baby that needs a good spanking. Having said that, he still needs to get something added to that trade or find a better trading partner.
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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby PatsFan24 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:35 pm

Think you could find a better RB than Ingram for Dez
Roster (12 team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE, 1 K, 1 DEF):

QB: Russell Wilson
RB: Saquon Barkley, Austin Ekeler, David Montgomery, Damien Harris, Nyheim Hines, David Johnson, Tony Pollard
WR: Tyreek Hill, Amari Cooper, Chris Godwin, OBJ, Curtis Samuel,
TE: Noah Fant, Robert Tonyan, David Njoku
K: Jason Sanders
DEF: New Orleans Saints
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2021 picks: 1.08, 4.08
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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby Goddard » Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:37 pm

Just stop!! First, you need to go after someone other than Ingram if you're looking for RB help. Second, stop trying to trade WR1s for garbage.

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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 11:21 pm

That is such a bad trade, no way. A first on top of Ingram would still be an unattractive offer.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
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HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby jcollins11 » Sun Sep 17, 2017 12:22 am

Lesson learned, desperate RB times don't call for desperate RB measures

The thing I'm struggling with is everyone in this league values RB over WR. Which is probably why Ive been able to amass such we depth. (For example, to get Jordan Howard, it "starts with" Brown. Yikes)
The Slaughterhouse - 10 Team League - 0.5 PPR - Keeper League - Keep 8
Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE/WR, TE, DST, K

QB - Brady, Wentz
RB - Rawls, Perkins, White, Perine, C.Carson, J.Williams
WR - A.Brown, Dez, DT, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diggs, C.Davis
TE - Hooper
DST - DEN
K - Hauschka

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PFFL - 12 Team - 24 Roster Spots - Start 1QB, 2RB, 1WR, 3 Flex, 1K
QB: D. Brees, B. Osweiler
RB: D Washington, J McKinnon, A Morris, M Asiata, F Whittaker
WR: D Baldwin, Q Enunwa, S Shepard, L Treadwell, B Coleman, B Perriman, M Mitchell, C Givens, C Hogan, P Dorsett, M Wheaton, Ty Williams
TE: L Green, D Pitta, V Green, J Thomas
K: B McManus, C Sturgis

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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby jcollins11 » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:34 pm

Goddard wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:37 pm Just stop!! First, you need to go after someone other than Ingram if you're looking for RB help. Second, stop trying to trade WR1s for garbage.
Trust me. I've tried trading for every RB in the top 15 rankings. Nothing.

Whether that's a dislike for Dez, an overvaluation of RBs, or not wanting to see my team get stronger, I really don't know why
The Slaughterhouse - 10 Team League - 0.5 PPR - Keeper League - Keep 8
Start: QB, RB, RB, RB/WR, WR, WR, TE/WR, TE, DST, K

QB - Brady, Wentz
RB - Rawls, Perkins, White, Perine, C.Carson, J.Williams
WR - A.Brown, Dez, DT, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, Diggs, C.Davis
TE - Hooper
DST - DEN
K - Hauschka

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PFFL - 12 Team - 24 Roster Spots - Start 1QB, 2RB, 1WR, 3 Flex, 1K
QB: D. Brees, B. Osweiler
RB: D Washington, J McKinnon, A Morris, M Asiata, F Whittaker
WR: D Baldwin, Q Enunwa, S Shepard, L Treadwell, B Coleman, B Perriman, M Mitchell, C Givens, C Hogan, P Dorsett, M Wheaton, Ty Williams
TE: L Green, D Pitta, V Green, J Thomas
K: B McManus, C Sturgis

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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby Goddard » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:49 pm

jcollins11 wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:34 pm
Goddard wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:37 pm Just stop!! First, you need to go after someone other than Ingram if you're looking for RB help. Second, stop trying to trade WR1s for garbage.
Trust me. I've tried trading for every RB in the top 15 rankings. Nothing.

Whether that's a dislike for Dez, an overvaluation of RBs, or not wanting to see my team get stronger, I really don't know why
In that case, just sit tight for now. Just because people are willing to trade right now doesn't mean you should overpay. Give it a couple more weeks and try again.

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Re: Hurting at RB - Dez for Ingram

Postby vixen » Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:33 pm

jcollins11 wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:41 pm What about DT for Ingram? Maybe have him throw Henry in?
is that hunter henry or derrick henry?

i think derrick is going to start to emerge in that backfield...if you can get ingram and derrick henry, i would make that trade.
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
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DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
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