J.Matt Value

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If JMatt was in your rookie draft

1.01-1.04
0
No votes
1.05-1.08
12
24%
1.09-1.12
17
35%
Early 2nd
10
20%
Mid 2nd
7
14%
Late 2nd
3
6%
 
Total votes: 49

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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby AresGodOWar » Thu Aug 31, 2017 4:40 pm

So what everyone thinks is if you have him he is a strong hold and if you don't he is the perfect buy low ?
(1) 12 Team, QB 1.5 PPRushingYard, TE 1.5 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, B.Mayfield, K.Murray
RB-A.Ekeler, S.Barkley, T.Pollard, D.Swift, Z.Moss, T.Chandler, J.Kelley
WR-D.Samuel, M.Pittman, M.Brown, J.Jeudy, J.Addison, R.Moore, S.Moore, KJ.Osborn, J.Tolbert
TE-M.Andrews, D.Waller

(2) 12 Team, 1 PPR
QB-J.Hurts, R.Wilson
RB-J.Mixon, A.Ekeler, I.Pacheco, A.Mattison, C.Akers, A.Gibson, I.Spiller
WR-T.Hill, M.Brown, C.Olave, DJ.Moore J.Jeudy, J.Hyatt
TE-D.Schultz, G.Everett, J.Ferguson

(3) 12 Team, .15 PPCarry, WR 1.25 PPR, TE 2 PPR
QB-L.Jackson, J.Dobbs, T.Lance
RB-J.Jacobs, S.Barkley, A.Mattison, M.Sanders, Z.White, T.Chandler
WR-C.Lamb, AJ.Brown, J.Jeudy, M.Pittman, J.Tolbert
TE-D.Waller, J.Smith, G.Everett

(4) 14 Team SF, .2 PPCarry, TE 1.65 PPR
QB-J.Allen, G.Smith, J.Dobbs
RB-C.McCaffery, J.Mixon, J.Jacobs, Jav.Williams, C.Hubbard, S.Perine, C.Evans
WR-C.Godwin, J.Addison, C.Samuel, D.Parker
TE-D.Schultz, J.Ferguson


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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby Jintsfan66 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:45 pm

I just did a rookie/ FA draft and I was able to draft him at 3.10, so I was pretty surpised
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QB- Herbert,
RB - McCaffrey, Barkley, Mixon, Foreman, Perine,
WR- Mike Evans, T. McLaurin, C. Sutton, D. Johnson, Osborn, Bateman
TE - Njoku Dulchich, Likely
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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:47 pm

Jintsfan66 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:45 pm I just did a rookie/ FA draft and I was able to draft him at 3.10, so I was pretty surpised
6-team league??
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby Jintsfan66 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:51 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:47 pm
Jintsfan66 wrote: Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:45 pm I just did a rookie/ FA draft and I was able to draft him at 3.10, so I was pretty surpised
6-team league??
lol no 10, but it was rather surprising. I am in the Philadelphia area and they have been down on him for a while now. I guess rookie fever sweeps in and people ignore the vets. I will gladly take him as depth for my WR group
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QB- Herbert,
RB - McCaffrey, Barkley, Mixon, Foreman, Perine,
WR- Mike Evans, T. McLaurin, C. Sutton, D. Johnson, Osborn, Bateman
TE - Njoku Dulchich, Likely
DEF - NE

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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby snaps06 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:59 pm

How is JMatt's value THIS LOW??? Absolutely insane. He's easily worth 1.08. If he was in this class, I'd take Fournette, Davis, Cook, Mixon, McCaffrey, Williams, and maybe Hunt over him. Maybe. Shoot, he might be worth 1.06 in front of both Hunt and Williams. 3.10 in a rookie/FA draft??????????? How does that happen?
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REBUILD STARTED 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex
Kyler,Stafford,Herbert
Zeke,Sanders,Swift,Moss,Robinson,Mattison,Gio
Cooper,Juju,AJB,Reagor,Ruggs,Mims,Kirk,Bateman,Moore
Kelce,Henry
2022: 2,3,4

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR '17 & '20 2nd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Rodgers,Stafford
Zeke,Conner,Robinson,Dillon,CEvans,Mattison,Edmonds,Davis
Hopkins,Thomas,Woods,Cooks,Toney,MWilliams,
Kittle,Henry,Freier
2022:1,1,2,3,4

Team 3: 14-Team SF,PPR,0.25/rush '18 3rd Place, 2020 Champ :dance:
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex SFlex
Cousins,Kyler,Carr,Trask
Jacobs,Gibson,Robinson,LMurray,Ingram,Moss,Gio,SScott
Evans,Nuk,DJM,Boyd,Davis
Fant,Hooper,Gronk
2022:2,4
2023:1,1,2,3,4

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QB RB RB WR WR WR TE FLEX FLEX SFlex
Allen,Tanny,Cam,MacJones
Taylor,Akers,Montgomery,Gibson,Robinson,Harris,McKissic,SScott
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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby jeffster » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:17 am

DLF in general seems unusually high on JMatt. I went looking around at projections for 2017 from various sites (FBG, 4for4, a few others), and usually found him projected to finish around WR40, plus or minus.

Are the people valuing him highly disagreeing, and expecting 1k yards or something this year? Or are you valuing him that high despite an expected down year because he's young and on a new team?

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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:22 am

jeffster wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:17 am DLF in general seems unusually high on JMatt. I went looking around at projections for 2017 from various sites (FBG, 4for4, a few others), and usually found him projected to finish around WR40, plus or minus.

Are the people valuing him highly disagreeing, and expecting 1k yards or something this year? Or are you valuing him that high despite an expected down year because he's young and on a new team?
Because what he's done statistically so far is nothing to sneeze at, and he's got fantastic measurables, and college production, and he's his team's WR1.

If he plays all 16 games this year, I guarantee you he gets around 80-1000-6 or better.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby cc texan » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:26 am

Buy: High 2nd
Sell: Late 1st

I don't know when you're ever going to feel comfortable starting him after last season THEN going to the Bills. If you don't think he'll sniff your starting lineup, why would you pay a 1st for him?
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RB: Hyde, Gordon, Martin, Dixon, Prosise, Williams (GB), Connor
WR: Beckham, Parker, White, Ty Williams, Doctson, Schuster-Smith, Boyd
TE: Thomas, Howard, Everett
DL: Cox, Fowler, Clark
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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:49 am

cc texan wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:26 am Buy: High 2nd
Sell: Late 1st

I don't know when you're ever going to feel comfortable starting him after last season THEN going to the Bills. If you don't think he'll sniff your starting lineup, why would you pay a 1st for him?
I'll have no worries starting him as my WR4 or 5, he's been similar to Edelman in a PPR. He is good for 6-60 at least, and the occasional TD and/or 8-90 game.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby Reljac » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:53 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:55 pm Mid-2nd voters are smoking dope. You're taking a guy like Godwin, JuJu, Marlon Mack, Semaje Perine, Zay Jones, or Kenny Golladay? Wow...

He would be 1.08 at the lowest. Maybe 1.07 depending on how I feel about Mike Williams.
Agree with this... I'm not a Matthews fan, but value is value.
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RB: Chubb, Stevenson, AJ Dillion
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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby Mrowmix » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:37 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:22 am
jeffster wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:17 am DLF in general seems unusually high on JMatt. I went looking around at projections for 2017 from various sites (FBG, 4for4, a few others), and usually found him projected to finish around WR40, plus or minus.

Are the people valuing him highly disagreeing, and expecting 1k yards or something this year? Or are you valuing him that high despite an expected down year because he's young and on a new team?
Because what he's done statistically so far is nothing to sneeze at, and he's got fantastic measurables, and college production, and he's his team's WR1.

If he plays all 16 games this year, I guarantee you he gets around 80-1000-6 or better.
Thanks for the laugh. Those numbers are most likely not happening.

1. Bills haven't shown any interest in signing him - he's not a priority player for them.
2. Bills are clearly rebuilding. Zay Jones will be their focus.
3. Philly dumped him and had no interest in him.
4. He's been injured already. His production will be affected.
5. Bills suck and are a run first team. He's learning a new offence.
6. He will end up on another team next year - he won't be a primary target there.. He's a support player. Even if he has a good year, his value won't hold well.

I really liked JMatt coming out of college and still do like him - but it's unreasonable to think he will have a 80-1000-6 season. He was their number one last year in Phill and couldn't do that.

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Re: J.Matt Value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:50 am

Mrowmix wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:37 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:22 am
jeffster wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:17 am DLF in general seems unusually high on JMatt. I went looking around at projections for 2017 from various sites (FBG, 4for4, a few others), and usually found him projected to finish around WR40, plus or minus. Are the people valuing him highly disagreeing, and expecting 1k yards or something this year? Or are you valuing him that high despite an expected down year because he's young and on a new team?
Because what he's done statistically so far is nothing to sneeze at, and he's got fantastic measurables, and college production, and he's his team's WR1.

If he plays all 16 games this year, I guarantee you he gets around 80-1000-6 or better.
Thanks for the laugh. Those numbers are most likely not happening.

1. Bills haven't shown any interest in signing him - he's not a priority player for them.
2. Bills are clearly rebuilding. Zay Jones will be their focus.
3. Philly dumped him and had no interest in him.
4. He's been injured already. His production will be affected.
5. Bills suck and are a run first team. He's learning a new offence.
6. He will end up on another team next year - he won't be a primary target there.. He's a support player. Even if he has a good year, his value won't hold well.

I really liked JMatt coming out of college and still do like him - but it's unreasonable to think he will have a 80-1000-6 season. He was their number one last year in Phill and couldn't do that.
In his 2nd year, he got 85 catches, 1000 yards, and 8 TDs.

Last year, with an inconsistent rookie QB and battling injury, he was on pace for 82 catches and 919 yards. Not spectacular at all, but solid in a PPR.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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