If you didn't have a strong preference between the RBs and had multiple early picks (3 of top 4 and 6 of the top 12), would you trade back a few spots to pick up another top 15 pick?
I'm thinking about it and the 1.05 owner is interested.
I rate the top 5 like this as of today...
1. Davis
LF/Mixon/CMC - I am completely torn and could make a case for any of them as #1 or #3 in this group...which is why I'm posting this question
5.Cook
I don't want to overthink it, but I see what I think is almost a no-lose opportunity for me. I mean, the worst case scenario for me is Davis going at 1.03 and I end up with 2 of those 3 RBs that I rank equal plus Cook, which is still a pretty good outcome...while I bank pick #15
###Update###
Went back and forth for a few days, finally reached a deal and accepted last night.
Traded picks 1 & 21 for 5, 15 and Corey Coleman.
I threw him Tyler Lockett, but he was going to be cut when I announced my keepers, so he didn't cost me anything as the deal was the picks and Coleman.
Pretty happy to know that with the emergence of Hunt in this KC homer league, I'm likely going to have my choice of 3 of Mixon, CMC, Cook and Davis
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Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
Makes sense but I think you can get more from the guy who is moving up 4 spots than an early 2nd.
QB (1) - A.Rodgers,J.Love,W.Levis,B.Mayfield,Darnold,J.Brisset,Corral
RB (2) - Bijan,Charbonnet,R. Mostert, Zeke, Allgeier,K. Hunt,Hubbard, J.Ford, M. Gaskin
WR (2) - Nuk, M. Evans ,OBJ, T.Thornton, P. Nacua, K Boutte, P. Campbell Zaccheaus,W Fuller, Cobb, T.Patrick
TE (1) - Schultz, Hooper,Kmet,T.Kraft
SFlex (2) - any qb/rb/wr/te
0.25 PPR
12 team league, 37 player rosters + IR, 5 round rookie draft each year.
RB (2) - Bijan,Charbonnet,R. Mostert, Zeke, Allgeier,K. Hunt,Hubbard, J.Ford, M. Gaskin
WR (2) - Nuk, M. Evans ,OBJ, T.Thornton, P. Nacua, K Boutte, P. Campbell Zaccheaus,W Fuller, Cobb, T.Patrick
TE (1) - Schultz, Hooper,Kmet,T.Kraft
SFlex (2) - any qb/rb/wr/te
0.25 PPR
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10-team PPR
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DEF, 1 K
2014: 6-6-1, missed playoffs
2015: 12-3, League Champion
2016: 14-1, League Champion
2017: 11-4, Runner Up
2018: 9-5, 4th place
2018: 6-3
QB - Lamar Jackson, Carson Wentz
RB - Alvin Kamara, Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR - Tyreek Hill, Odell Beckham Jr., Stefon Diggs, Courtland Sutton, Corey Davis, James Washington, Tre'Quan Smith, Auden Tate, DaeSean Hamilton, Allen Lazard, Jakobi Meyers, Alex Erickson, Russell Gage
TE - Darren Waller, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki
DEF - Vikings
K - Justin Tucker
2020 Picks - 1, 1, 2, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7
2021 Picks - 1, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7
Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 DEF, 1 K
2014: 6-6-1, missed playoffs
2015: 12-3, League Champion
2016: 14-1, League Champion
2017: 11-4, Runner Up
2018: 9-5, 4th place
2018: 6-3
QB - Lamar Jackson, Carson Wentz
RB - Alvin Kamara, Josh Jacobs, Kareem Hunt, Ronald Jones, Darwin Thompson
WR - Tyreek Hill, Odell Beckham Jr., Stefon Diggs, Courtland Sutton, Corey Davis, James Washington, Tre'Quan Smith, Auden Tate, DaeSean Hamilton, Allen Lazard, Jakobi Meyers, Alex Erickson, Russell Gage
TE - Darren Waller, O.J. Howard, David Njoku, Dallas Goedert, Mike Gesicki
DEF - Vikings
K - Justin Tucker
2020 Picks - 1, 1, 2, 4, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7
2021 Picks - 1, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 7
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Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
You should get way more than a 2nd. Atleast a 1st next year and the 2nd and that's still light IMO.
TEAM 1 - 12 man SF. ppr, TEP 1.65 ppr
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
24 - 1st x 3, 2nd x 2, 4th x 3 ,5
11 starters - QB, RB(2) WR(3) TE, SF, Flex(3)
Stroud, Kyler, Bryce Young, Anthony Richardson, Minshew, Trey Lance, Dalton l, Mike White
Breece, Achane, AJ Dillon, Justice Hill, Evan Hull, Chris Rodgriquez
Chase, Lamb, Waddle, Olave, London Drake, Demario Davis, Jake Bobo
Kyle Pitts, Mark Andrews, Kincaid, Schoonmaker
24 picks - 1x2, 3,4,5
Team 2-
12 man SF, .25ppc, .5ppr rbs, 1 ppr wr, 1.5 ppr TE
Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawerence, Jake Haehner, Jake Browning
JT, Kendre Miller,, K Ingram, Ty Chandler, Michael Carter, Kenny Macintosh, Sean Tucker
Puka, Rondale, Mooney, Wan’dale, Terrace Marshall, DPJ, Justyn Ross, Xavier Hutchinson,
Kyle Pitts, Luke Musgrave, Juwan Johnson, Darnell Washington, Jelani Woods, Elijah Higgins
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Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
I'd do it if you can get a 2018 first.
12 Team (2014 Champ, 2016 2nd, 2021 Champ) 1.0 PPR, 1.5 TE, Superflex, Start 9, 1-2 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-3 TE
QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
QB - J. Hurts, M. Stafford, K. Cousins
RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
TE - M. Andrews, G. Kittle, M. Cox
Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
It depends how you view the top five. Imo, they're all virtually equal in value and you could make a compelling argument for each player at 1.1. For that reason, I'd do exactly what you're thinking. Trade down to 1.5 and get anything additional that I can. I'd Ask for a late first, but would be willing to settle for an early 2nd
QB: D. Watson, T. Taylor, J. Driskel, J. Johnson, C. Rush, N. Sudfeld, M. White
RB: C. McCaffrey, C. Carson, K. Johnson, R. Penny, J. Samuels, D. Pumphrey
WR: J.J. Smith-Schuster, R. Woods, L. Fitzgerald, J. Nelson, M. Gallup R. Switzer, B. Berrios, C. Batson, R. Higgins, J. Kearse
TE: G. Kittle, I. Thomas, J Doyle, W. Dissly, J. Leggett, J. Gresham, T. Conklin
16 Team Dynasty (PPR). Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, TE, FLEX, SFLEX
2018 Champs
QB: M. Stafford, J. Garoppolo
RB: I. Crowell, J. Williams, A. Abdullah, C.J. Anderson
WR: C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, W. Fuller, M. Valdez-Scantling, D.J. Chark, E. St. Brown, J. Kumerow, R. Higgins, C. Meredith, J. Kearse
TE: D. Njoku, H. Henry, C. Herndon, G. Everett, I. Thomas, J. Leggett, W. Dissly
14 Team SuperFlex Dynasty TE 1.5 PPR and .15PPY, WR PPR, RB .25PPC and .5PPR, QB: 4 Point TDs
Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, FLEX, FLEX, OP
RB: C. McCaffrey, C. Carson, K. Johnson, R. Penny, J. Samuels, D. Pumphrey
WR: J.J. Smith-Schuster, R. Woods, L. Fitzgerald, J. Nelson, M. Gallup R. Switzer, B. Berrios, C. Batson, R. Higgins, J. Kearse
TE: G. Kittle, I. Thomas, J Doyle, W. Dissly, J. Leggett, J. Gresham, T. Conklin
16 Team Dynasty (PPR). Lineup: QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, TE, FLEX, SFLEX
2018 Champs
QB: M. Stafford, J. Garoppolo
RB: I. Crowell, J. Williams, A. Abdullah, C.J. Anderson
WR: C. Godwin, D.J. Moore, W. Fuller, M. Valdez-Scantling, D.J. Chark, E. St. Brown, J. Kumerow, R. Higgins, C. Meredith, J. Kearse
TE: D. Njoku, H. Henry, C. Herndon, G. Everett, I. Thomas, J. Leggett, W. Dissly
14 Team SuperFlex Dynasty TE 1.5 PPR and .15PPY, WR PPR, RB .25PPC and .5PPR, QB: 4 Point TDs
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Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
I totally agree with it being light and I know I probably could get much more in most leagues, but this league is different as it is my 12 year local league with my old softball buddies. It isn't a true dynasty, it is a 10 player salary cap keeper with 4 man taxi...you kind of have to zig when they zag in this league sometimes...in this case I'm trying to leverage LF into an extra pick because I don't think I would take him right now.
Your heads are probably going to explode when you read this, but I actually approached him with the idea...I think the biggest reason is that I just don't trust Fournette, who I have no doubt will be the #1 pick if I trade it. Also, I am operating under the assumption that #3 is only going RB and Davis would fall to #4 in just about any scenario where I don't take him in the top 2 picks.
Think about this from my point of view, I've started to sour on LF enough that I don't think I'd take him until #4. So if I take Davis and Mixon, #3 goes LF for free and I likely go CMC at #4. That is a great situation for me.
Or I could let him take the 1.01 to get LF, I still get Mixon, #3 very likely takes CMC or Cook and I come back with Davis and the other RB and still get the 15th pick. If I get the same players and net a top 15 pick out of it, it is at least worth thinking about...also a great situation for me, and possibly better.
Which do you prefer?
Mixon
Davis
Cook/CMC
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Mixon
Davis
Cook/CMC
JuJu or package up 15 with the other 2nds and move up to the mid-late 1st
The crazy thing is that I think I'll only have 3 picks left after I select at 3.02 in a 12 round draft if I make this deal and we redraft half our team each year. Also, I have picks 1, 2, 4, 10, 11, 12, 21 & 22 in the first 3 rounds, so there might be opportunities to trade up a little later as well, but not much of a chance to get a 2018 1st.
Like I said, this league is different and a guy that probably hasn't made more than 3 trades in the last 3 years is interested, so I figured I'd at least explore it and bounce if off you guys for feedback as I wait for my draft to approach next week.
Your heads are probably going to explode when you read this, but I actually approached him with the idea...I think the biggest reason is that I just don't trust Fournette, who I have no doubt will be the #1 pick if I trade it. Also, I am operating under the assumption that #3 is only going RB and Davis would fall to #4 in just about any scenario where I don't take him in the top 2 picks.
Think about this from my point of view, I've started to sour on LF enough that I don't think I'd take him until #4. So if I take Davis and Mixon, #3 goes LF for free and I likely go CMC at #4. That is a great situation for me.
Or I could let him take the 1.01 to get LF, I still get Mixon, #3 very likely takes CMC or Cook and I come back with Davis and the other RB and still get the 15th pick. If I get the same players and net a top 15 pick out of it, it is at least worth thinking about...also a great situation for me, and possibly better.
Which do you prefer?
Mixon
Davis
Cook/CMC
or
Mixon
Davis
Cook/CMC
JuJu or package up 15 with the other 2nds and move up to the mid-late 1st
The crazy thing is that I think I'll only have 3 picks left after I select at 3.02 in a 12 round draft if I make this deal and we redraft half our team each year. Also, I have picks 1, 2, 4, 10, 11, 12, 21 & 22 in the first 3 rounds, so there might be opportunities to trade up a little later as well, but not much of a chance to get a 2018 1st.
Like I said, this league is different and a guy that probably hasn't made more than 3 trades in the last 3 years is interested, so I figured I'd at least explore it and bounce if off you guys for feedback as I wait for my draft to approach next week.
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Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
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.5ppr
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RB: Najee, Gibson, Ken Walker, Miles Sanders, Darrel Williams
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Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
Also, just to noticed that Beast Mode will be in this draft as well, so another rookie will probably drop to me at 1.10.
Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
I would try and get more but take it in the end.
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def: Rams
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4
Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2WRT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Lock, Carr, Mariota
WRs: MThomas, DAdams, ACooper, OBJ, Kupp, RAnderson, Renfro, Shepherd, Agholor, JMeyers
RBs: Mixon, Henry, Drake, JK Dobbins, Akers, Howard, McKinnon, Hyde, Pollard, DThompson
TEs: Waller, Engram, Graham, Eifert
K: Zeurlein
2020 Picks: 1.06 (JK Dobbins) acquired 1.09 OTC (Akers) 14 overall, 17 overall
2021 Picks: 2nd, 3rd
Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05?
I agree that you should get more than that 2nd but by the sound of it, you know your league and it's not likely you'll get a first tossed in from anyone else. If the guy you're dealing with doesn't have another one, it's a moot point. No point doing this with the guy with 1.6 or 1.7 as you'd be dropping from that top5 tier. I get what you're saying and if you aren't sold on LF, no need to use that pick on one of the others who will drop to you! I say go for it.
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bump for update
Re: Trade back from 1.01 to 1.05? UPDATED W/ TRADE
Looks like you did well. I like Cook more than Fournette anyways, so to me, you got the 15th pick and Coleman for free.