So. Owner is coming at me for Kamara. I traded for him + pieces after the draft with a late 1st next yr.
I don't like much on his team but hes offering this. My Team 1 in Sig.
Either Charles or Woodhead + his 19 1st + 20 1st for Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd.
His team is a dumpster-fire and should still be early picks for both of those years. His best player is Joe Mixon.
His next best player is Jordan Matthews...not kidding.
Thoughts?
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Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
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Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
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QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
Charles, Woodhead, and the 3rds are completely valueless. This is basically Kamara for a 19 and 20 1st. I'm not sure Kamara is worth two 1sts, but because they're so far out, I'd probably pass.
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
I'd take two early firsts for Kamara. It doesn't bother me that they're far out. I think I know why his team is a dumpster fire.
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
With the depth you've already got at RB, and the fact that Kamara is still an unknown I think I'd make this trade but only for Woodhead. I'm really doubting that Charles even makes the Bronco's roster. And if he does his role likely won't be significant. Those knees seem to be about shot.
As Goddard notes I'm not sure many people value Kamara as worth two 1st's. So if you can get them, why not take them and enjoy the benefit down the road. Your team is set to compete this year anyway without any contribution from Kamara at all.
As Goddard notes I'm not sure many people value Kamara as worth two 1st's. So if you can get them, why not take them and enjoy the benefit down the road. Your team is set to compete this year anyway without any contribution from Kamara at all.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan
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QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan
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QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku
Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
With your RBs and only needing to start 2RBs, I would easily take the two 1sts here.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
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2025 picks: 3 2nds
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
Yeah, hard to hit reject on that offer and I'm all about stockpiling picks but this is just too long to wait.
Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
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RB: D Cook, Barkley, Chubb, Ekeler, Dobbins, K Ingram, Brightwell, C/Z/D Evans, I Spiller, Strong Jr, R Rivers
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10 team(0.5 ppr) - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 4 Flex(WR/RB/TE)(SF in 2024)
Champ '19, '20, ‘21, ‘22
QB: Herbert, Tua, Carr, Ridder, Stroud
RB: D Cook, Barkley, Chubb, Ekeler, Dobbins, K Ingram, Brightwell, C/Z/D Evans, I Spiller, Strong Jr, R Rivers
WR: Jefferson, AJ Brown, T Hill, Diggs, Pittman, JSN, MT, A Rob, D Johnson, Mingo, Tank D, Hutchinson, Shenault, T Scott
TE: Ertz, Kittle, Waller, Freiermuth
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
Id do it.
Id also make sure the commish collects the 2019 and 2020 fees from him upfront to ensure the league continues on. Those pick are worth zilch if the league folds because that team is worthless and cant rebuild.
Id also make sure the commish collects the 2019 and 2020 fees from him upfront to ensure the league continues on. Those pick are worth zilch if the league folds because that team is worthless and cant rebuild.
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
This. But usually both teams have to submit fees upfront in order to trade future picks.Bisquiteen Trisket wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:42 pm Id do it.
Id also make sure the commish collects the 2019 and 2020 fees from him upfront to ensure the league continues on. Those pick are worth zilch if the league folds because that team is worthless and cant rebuild.
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RB - S. Barkley, D. Cook, E. Elliot, T. Pollard, A. Mattison
WR - D. Adams, DK Metcalf, A. Cooper, C. Ridley, R. Anderson, C. Davis, J. Jones
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
Spongehack wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:50 pmThis. But usually both teams have to submit fees upfront in order to trade future picks.Bisquiteen Trisket wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:42 pm Id do it.
Id also make sure the commish collects the 2019 and 2020 fees from him upfront to ensure the league continues on. Those pick are worth zilch if the league folds because that team is worthless and cant rebuild.
I'm not too worried. I'm the commish and we're all friends in the league. If he trades them away I get to keep them regardless of what happens to his team. Even dispersal. They may get slightly better but dispersal would still barely affect his roster.
12 team • .5 PPR • IDP • 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-4FLEX-3DL-3LB-3DB
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
Saints were 2nd in the League last year throwing to RBs ..
Saints face the 2nd easiest schedule of pass defenses allowed to RBs this year ..
Even with that, if this owners teams is in shambles I'd take his 1sts for the next few years ..
I'd also go after his 2nds before the season starts
Saints face the 2nd easiest schedule of pass defenses allowed to RBs this year ..
Even with that, if this owners teams is in shambles I'd take his 1sts for the next few years ..
I'd also go after his 2nds before the season starts
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
Shoreline Steamers wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:16 pm With the depth you've already got at RB, and the fact that Kamara is still an unknown I think I'd make this trade but only for Woodhead. I'm really doubting that Charles even makes the Bronco's roster. And if he does his role likely won't be significant. Those knees seem to be about shot.
As Goddard notes I'm not sure many people value Kamara as worth two 1st's. So if you can get them, why not take them and enjoy the benefit down the road. Your team is set to compete this year anyway without any contribution from Kamara at all.
well thought out response. i couldn't agree more
team 1 -start QB RB 2WR TE 2RB/WR 1WR/TE
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
Hopkins, Diggs, Adams, Godwin, McLaurin, Callaway, DPJ, Robby Anderson, Schwartz, Pierce, Wan'Dale, Doubs
Kelce, Andrews, Jacob Harris
qbs=5pt tds wr/te=1 ppr rbs=.5ppr all get .25ppc
Watson, Brady, Mills
Ekeler, Hunt, Carson/Penny, DForeman, Mitchell, CPat, Kyren, Ford, KHarris
Cooper, sutton, Chase, Shepard, Atwell, Schwartz, Wan'Dale, Austin III
Gesicki, Engram, Hooper, Woods
team 2 -start QB 2RB 3WR TE 2Flex K D
Cousins, Stafford
DH JT, Ekeler, Kylin Hill, Herbert, KHarris, Chandler
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Re: Give Kamara + 19 3rd + 20 3rd for J. Charles or Woodhead + 19 1st + 20 1st
Yea I'm still torn. I know its a good deal. I am also a Saints fan and having what *appears to the be the future back there is enticing to me.
I play to have fun and owning Kamara is fun and those picks are not fun (right now) unless I could flip them for something now (which I would try). With the state of my team, I think having Kamara or those future picks is just a toss-up (return is so far down the line).
I would def. choose Woodhead over Charles and Woodhead would actually score more then Kamara this year so it even makes sense for my team now. I targeted Kamara after the draft so it feels counterproductive to give him back however.
I paid an 18 1st for him + some late 4th rnd fliers. So to get earlyish 1sts back but in 19 and 20 is a gain in return but just too far in the future.
My inner dialogue is killing me...Im leaning no unless he adds something to it (which he just told me he won't).
Thanks...
I play to have fun and owning Kamara is fun and those picks are not fun (right now) unless I could flip them for something now (which I would try). With the state of my team, I think having Kamara or those future picks is just a toss-up (return is so far down the line).
I would def. choose Woodhead over Charles and Woodhead would actually score more then Kamara this year so it even makes sense for my team now. I targeted Kamara after the draft so it feels counterproductive to give him back however.
I paid an 18 1st for him + some late 4th rnd fliers. So to get earlyish 1sts back but in 19 and 20 is a gain in return but just too far in the future.
My inner dialogue is killing me...Im leaning no unless he adds something to it (which he just told me he won't).
Thanks...
12 team • .5 PPR • IDP • 2QB-2RB-2WR-1TE-4FLEX-3DL-3LB-3DB
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
QB- Newton, Mayfield, Darnold, Finley
RB- Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, Kamara, DHarris, RSmith, Boone, Weber, DarJackson, Ollison, Barnes, Ozigbo
WR- Nuk, Evans, Thomas, Allen, Adams, Hurns, Jennings
TE- Engram, Herndon, Fant, Watson, Warring, JThomas
K- Gostkowski, Zuerlein
DL- Mack, Flowers, Clowney, DLaw, Hurst, Landry, Hubbard
LB- Kuech, Wagner, Edmunds, Bush, Wright
DB- Collins, JJohnson, SWilliams, Burnett
2020: 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12, 15, 17 Champions
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