Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

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Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby tyson » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:30 pm

Team 1 in sig. Great depth at WR, but only Evans as a true WR1. Wanted to upgrade the corps using that depth but ended up having to use picks. Think the Luck questions is the only reason he was available.

Gave: Keenan, '19 1st, '19 2nd

Got: TY Hilton

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WR: Evans, Allen Robinson, Lamb, Sutton, Hilton, Boyd, Anthony Miller, JJAW
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby Kramer » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:32 pm

Luck will be fine. This is pretty cheap for Hilton imo.
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby Goddard » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:34 pm

Based on their current values, you did fine. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Allen is worth as much, if not more than Hilton this time next year.

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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby thomasscheeks » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:34 pm

Well first off, Hopkins is easily a WR1. 1 down year doesn't make him a WR2. And ARob could easily bounce back and be the same.

But anyways, I probably wouldn't have paid that much. Keenan is a health risk of course, but he could easily put up better numbers than TY. Not a terrible trade, but I would have at least removed the 2nd round pick
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby Fantasy>>>Reality » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:42 pm

I like it
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby tyson » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:53 pm

Totally agree on Hopkins and Arob. I prob didn't phrase my initial post well.

I definitely agree if Keenan is healthy he could be as good or better than TY, and if that's the case I overpaid a lot. This trade I think will have a clear cut winner and loser at some point. But Keenan has had three season ending injuries, the timing of which doesn't matter in relation to his injury proneness. One was in week 15 (if it had been in week 2 it still would have been season ending), one was in like week 8 and one was in week 1. I would be kicking myself if he went down and I hadn't done it.

Hate trading picks that far out but Evans Hilton Nuk/Arob could be huge.
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RB: Barkley, Damien Harris, Sony Michel, Malcolm Brown, Damien Williams, Boston Scott, Darwin, Bryce Love
WR: Evans, Allen Robinson, Lamb, Sutton, Hilton, Boyd, Anthony Miller, JJAW
TE: Ertz, Higbee
DL: Chase Young, Donald, Watt, Ingram,
LB: Devin Bush, Blake Martinez, TJ Watt
DB: Mathieu, Mike Hilton
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby thomasscheeks » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:11 pm

tyson wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:53 pm Totally agree on Hopkins and Arob. I prob didn't phrase my initial post well.

I definitely agree if Keenan is healthy he could be as good or better than TY, and if that's the case I overpaid a lot. This trade I think will have a clear cut winner and loser at some point. But Keenan has had three season ending injuries, the timing of which doesn't matter in relation to his injury proneness. One was in week 15 (if it had been in week 2 it still would have been season ending), one was in like week 8 and one was in week 1. I would be kicking myself if he went down and I hadn't done it.

Hate trading picks that far out but Evans Hilton Nuk/Arob could be huge.
You paid for peace of mind, and it's hard to put a price on that.

Keenan could easily go down with another season ending injury and I'll look stupid for saying this was an overpay. Rest easy, it was a good trade if you really wanted TY.
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RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby Spongehack » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:59 pm

If Keenan is healthy all year, big if, his value will be equal to Hilton, which you would have gave away a first and a second for free. Seeing how it's 2019 picks, it's not a bad trade at all.
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby DJB » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:34 pm

Your team looks like the clear favorite . Nice trade
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby Dougiefresh37 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:41 pm

I think you paid a little too much...but if you love hilton you got your guy.
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby smallxl » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:47 pm

Great deal for you
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:12 pm

Big win for you

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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby jeffster » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:22 pm

I like the trade. Obviously you're selling risk here, since TY has been super healthy and Keenan has been a wreck. But even if Keenan stays healthy this year, I'm not sure his value will match TYs next year.

The injury prone label should dog him another year regardless I would think, plus Rivers retiring is definitely in the cards.

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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby pierson242 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:34 am

I like it!
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Re: Just bought Hilton. Thoughts?

Postby esloan35 » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:24 am

I am not sure why TY seems to not get his props by some. You did great! Good luck.


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