Hyde vs Miller

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Lamar Miller - improves team
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70%
Carlos Hyde - unnecessary sideways move
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30%
 
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Hyde vs Miller

Postby snaps06 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:53 am

I've been offered Lamar Miller for Carlos Hyde straight up for team 1 in my sig. I'm not high on Miller, and Shanahan being in SF intrigues me when it comes to Hyde. I'm wondering if this move improves my team, or if it's simply a sideways move that is over-tinkering.

Thoughts?
Team 1: 12-Team 0.5 PPR 2016 and 2017 3rd Place :wall:
REBUILDING 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Stafford,Rosen,Tannehill
Duke,CJA,Bernard,M. Brown,Rod Smith
Cooper,Juju,Godwin,Kirk,Washington,DavidMoore,Rogers,Doctson
Ebron,Henry,Walker,McDonald
2019 Picks: 1.6, 1.8, 2.3, 2.9, 2.13, 3, 4, 5
2020 picks: 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,5

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR 2017 Runner-Up :boohoo:
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex
Rivers,Stafford,Rosen
Conner,Zeke,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Breida,Davis
Hopkins,Cooks,Watkins,Woods,M. Williams,Bryant
Ebron,Kittle,McDonald,Henry
2019 Picks: 2
2020 Picks: 1,2,3

Team 3: 14-Team SF,Full PPR,0.25/rush 2018 3rd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex Superflex
Luck,Cousins,Jackson,Hoyer
Zeke,Ingram,Crowell,Yeldon,Smith,Blue
Evans,Watkins,Boyd,Doctson,Grant,Moore
Burton,McDonald,Shaheen
2019 Picks: 1.01

Team 4: 12-Team 0.5 PPR
QB RB RB WR WR TE FLEX FLEX
Rivers,Rosen,Fitz
Gurley,Fournette,Gordon,Ingram,Yeldon,CJA,Brown
Julio,Landry,TWilliams,Enunwa
Olsen,Njoku,Clay

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby jmsieglaff » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:14 am

Miller side for me. Can't things only improve after the disaster that was a Brock Osweiler lead offense?
Dynasty 12-team; 15 roster slots; Keep 10 players--deadline late July--draft late August--1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1 FLEX, 1TE, 1K; Generally standard scoring (0.2 ppr)
QB: Rodgers
RB: L. Bell ,L. Miller, C. Hyde, CJ Anderson
WR: A. Brown, Nuk, M. Jones, D. Funchess
TE: T. Kelce
K:
IR:
2018: 3 4ths, 2 5ths
2019: 2nd, 3rd, 5th
2020: 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2021: 2 1sts, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby RB6 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:19 am

Miller. Better team and Hyde has major durability questions.
Team 1
10 Team Devy Non-PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 1Flex 5Taxi
QB: Wilson, Luck
WR: MT, Thielen, Woods, Godwin, Arob, Parker, Washington, T'Q Smith, MVS, D. Moore
RB: Zeke, Kamara, Barkley, Ekeler, J. Jackson, Samuels, Ja. Williams, Foreman, Richard, Dixon
TE: Gronk, Burton, Herndon
IR: Marvin, Allison, Warren
Taxi: Swift, Deebo, R. Anderson, Morgan, Dillon

Team 2
12 Team .5 PPR 1QB 3WR 2RB 1TE 2Flex
QB: Watson, Winston, Darnold
WR: Nuk, AB, Hilton, Baldwin, Shepard, MVS, Matthews, Allison, Higgins, Hamilton, James, Malone, Tate
RB: Zeke, DJ, Crowell, Powell, McGuire, Wilson Jr., Dixon
TE: Ebron, Olsen, Shaheen

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby jwb32 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:21 am

Not sure Miller is much of an improvement over Hyde, but I think he is safer.
TEAM 1: 12 team league. 1.0 PPR WR/TE 0.5 PPR RB
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE, 1D/ST, 1K.
QBs- Rivers, Mariota, Darnold
RBs- Mixon, Cook, RoJo, Murphy, McGuire(IR)
WRs- OBJ, Cooks, Boyd, Watkins, Funchess, Cole, TTaylor, Dorsett, ESB, DMoore
TEs- Rudolph, McDonald, Akins
2019 - 1.02, 1.03, 2.02, 3.03

TEAM 2: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr. TE 1 ppr
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 3WRs, 1Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Stafford,Bradford,Taylor
RBs- Cook, Guice, Lindsay, RoJo, Edwards, Ajayi, Ekeler
WRs- Cooks, Watkins, Boyd, Miller, Coutee, Lee, RAnderson, JGrant
TEs- Burton,Doyle,Hooper, Herndon
2019 - 1,2,3,3


TEAM 3: 12 team league. 0.5 ppr.
Start 1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 2Flex, 1TE,
QBs- Rivers,Trubisky
RBs- Cook, Coleman, Adams, Wilson, Penny, Murray
WRs- Evans, Allen, Diggs, Boyd, Shepard, Fuller, Moncrief, ZayJones, Higgins,
TEs- Njoku,RSJ, Herndon
2019 - 1,3
2020 - 1,2

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby Fhsscrballa » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:26 am

It is Miller for me simply based on volume and better injury history. Bill O'brien runs the ball more than most teams in the league and I look for that to continue with the current QB situation and a top defense.
10 man Standard League 1 QB,2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB/WR/TE .

Roster is 22/2IR

QB: Jameis Winston, Andy Dalton, Tyrod Taylor, Teddy B

RB: Mark Ingram, Isaiah Crowell, Jeremy Hill, Ty Montgomery, Jamaal Williams, Chris Carson, Joe Williams, Mike Davis,

WR: Mike Evans, Amari Cooper, Sterling Shepard, Randall Cobb, Emanuel Sanders, Chris Godwin, Trent Taylor, Kevin White

TE: Jimmy Graham

DEF: Kansas City Chief, Panthers

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby Ruggenater » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:27 am

Miller easily for me. As noted above, he's safer and on a better team, which will lead to more scoring opportunities.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: Rodgers, Dalton, Bortles, Tannehill, L Jackson, J Allen
RB: Michel, L Miller, Collins, Foreman, Dixon, Martin, Gore, Yeldon
WR: Hopkins, Robinson, Watkins, K Cole, Lockett, Hollins, Allison, Grant
TE: Kelce, Gesicki, J Smith

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby Goddard » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:27 am

Miller

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby jcc6fd » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:31 am

This has to be Miller, and I think he's always been overrated.
10 Team Non-PPR Scoring: 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 1Flex DST K
QB: Mahomes, Super Cam, Darnold
RB: Fournette, Cook, Guice, Lindsay, Crowell, J. Adams, Yeldon, Ware, Bernard, Hunt
WR: OBJ, K. Allen, Cooks, TY, Edelman, Ty Williams, Valdes-Scantling
TE: Kelce, Cook, Thomas

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby saw061600 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:32 am

Miller time.
10 TM 85 RST -WW STD
TruB Lamar Mariota Dalton
Bell Chubb Sony Henry Jones RoJo Miller Ajayi Foreman Gio Dixon Collins
Evans Cooks Cooper ARob Boyd Watkins MWill Keke Parker
Kelce Gronk Jonnu Andrews
Watt Ansah Williams Richardson Taylor Graham
Davis Collins Mosley Kendricks Bucannon DCampbell DJones DLee Compton
Vaccaro Joseph Church Iloka McLeod Williams

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST Orphan2
Mariota Dalton Mullens
Penny Miller Foreman DHenry Duke Yeldon Ekler Clement Edmonds
Evans Golladay ARob Watkins Agholor Keke JMatt Parker Tre'Q Callaway Samuel
Njoku Ebron Jonnu
Williams Hunter Clark
Williamson Warner Perryman Milano Campbell Baker Onwuassor ShaqT
McLeod Jones Budda JJohnson

12TM .5PPR 45RST Orphan1
Rodgers Rivers Wilson
Howard Freeman Ajayi AP Nyheim Mostert DWashington Cannon Ito
Cooks Amari DT Edelman PRich Hogan Samuel AWilson Geronimo Quin Coutee JMatt
Ertz Herndon
Garrett Clark Leo
Lee Bynes Milano Bucannon Lee Wright
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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby 0crush83 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:33 am

I prefer Miller
12 team PPR - QB/2RB/2WR/TE/FLEX/K/DEF
QB- Ryan, Carr
RB- Bell, Hyde, Coleman, Gio, Breida, Thompson
WR- OBJ, AB, Nuk, M. Thomas, Parker, Treadwell, Godwin
TE- Kelce, Engram
D- Eagles, Rams
IR - DJ

12 team PPR - QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Seimian, Bridgewater, McCown
RB- Bell, Freeman, Gordon, Ingram, Gore, Conner
WR- Julio, Nuk, KA, Landry, Hilton, Cooks, DT, Maclin, R. Matthews, Boyd
TE- Kelce, Rudolph, James, Everett, ASJ

12 team PPR- 1QB/2-4 RB/3-5 WR/1-3 TE
QB- Rodgers, Siemian
RB- Bell, Gurley, Carson, Conner, Gallman, Williams
WR- Nuk, Baldwin, Jordy, DT, Crabtree, Crowder, Decker, Ross, Wallace, Richardson, Higgins, Taylor
TE- Kelce, Maxx

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby Payton34 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:43 am

Miller... Figure Shanny will be looking to select "His Guy" in the next draft or two anyway...
QBs - Rodgers, Cousins, D Kizer
RBs - E Elliott, L Bell, D Cook, J Mixon, J Connor
WRs - J Nelson, M Thomas, D Hopkins, R Woods, J Doctson, D Amendola, P Garcon
TEs - OJ Howard, T Burton, R Seals-Jones
Ks - D Bailey, H Butker
Ds - Seattle, LA Rams


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2019 Picks: Late 1st rounder

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby mclilj » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:35 am

I think Hyde is the more talented back but is certainly riskier... durability concerns and questions about his role in this offense. Miller is the safer bet, Hyde has the lower floor but a much higher ceiling if he stays healthy and clicks with shanahan. I'm a gambler so I'd consider rolling the dice if you could get a pick thrown in or something.
Team 1:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 0PPR 8Teams
QBs: Brady, Wentz, Prescott, Trubisky
RBs: Gurley, Cook, Lindsay, Henry, Lewis, Hyde, Murray
WRs: Hill, Cooper, ARobinson, Sutton, Fitzgerald, TSmith(NO), Parker, Cain
TEs: Kelce, Burton, Engram
Def:
K:
2019 Picks 3, 4, 4
2020 Picks: 3, 3, 4

Team 2:
2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1RWT 1PPR 8TEAMS
QBs: Mahomes, Wentz, Trubisky, Carr, Rosen
WRs: OBJ, MThomas, Cooper, ARobinson, Kupp, Shepherd, Anderson, Callaway, Washington, DHamilton
RBs: Mixon, Fournette, Lindsay, Drake, Henry, McKinnon, Hyde, Burkhead
TEs: Graham, Eifert, Goedert, Smith
K: Zeurlein
2019 Picks 1, 2, 3

Team 3:
2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT 1PPR 10Teams
QBs: Wentz, Rodgers, Wilson
WRs: Cooper, Kupp, MGoodwin, Miller, DJax, Cobb, TSmith (NO), Chark, Cain
RBs: Zeke, White, Lindsay, Chubb, Henry, Ajayi, Penny, Riddick,
TEs: Burton, Doyle, Goedert, Smith
2019 Picks 2, 4
2020 Picks 2, 3, 4
2021 Picks 1, 1, 2, 3, 4

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby snaps06 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:27 pm

jwb32 wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:21 am
Not sure Miller is much of an improvement over Hyde, but I think he is safer.
This is basically how I've been looking at it. I think Miller's floor is higher and he's proven to be pretty durable. It's nice to see this being reinforced in most of the comments.
Team 1: 12-Team 0.5 PPR 2016 and 2017 3rd Place :wall:
REBUILDING 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Stafford,Rosen,Tannehill
Duke,CJA,Bernard,M. Brown,Rod Smith
Cooper,Juju,Godwin,Kirk,Washington,DavidMoore,Rogers,Doctson
Ebron,Henry,Walker,McDonald
2019 Picks: 1.6, 1.8, 2.3, 2.9, 2.13, 3, 4, 5
2020 picks: 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,5

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR 2017 Runner-Up :boohoo:
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex
Rivers,Stafford,Rosen
Conner,Zeke,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Breida,Davis
Hopkins,Cooks,Watkins,Woods,M. Williams,Bryant
Ebron,Kittle,McDonald,Henry
2019 Picks: 2
2020 Picks: 1,2,3

Team 3: 14-Team SF,Full PPR,0.25/rush 2018 3rd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex Superflex
Luck,Cousins,Jackson,Hoyer
Zeke,Ingram,Crowell,Yeldon,Smith,Blue
Evans,Watkins,Boyd,Doctson,Grant,Moore
Burton,McDonald,Shaheen
2019 Picks: 1.01

Team 4: 12-Team 0.5 PPR
QB RB RB WR WR TE FLEX FLEX
Rivers,Rosen,Fitz
Gurley,Fournette,Gordon,Ingram,Yeldon,CJA,Brown
Julio,Landry,TWilliams,Enunwa
Olsen,Njoku,Clay

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby cvbuc » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:12 pm

I'd be A LOT more worried about Foreman than I would be about Joe Williams.
TEAM ONE
**Currently in championship game**
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 21 Man Active Roster / 2 TAXI SQUAD SPOT
QB - Cousins, L. Jackson, Mariota
RB - Kamara, Mixon, Cook, M. Breida, P. Barber, McKinnon (IR), D. Foreman, J. Wilson
WR - Evans, AJ Green, JuJu, C. Davis, Demaryius, D. Parker, R. Foster
TE - Kelce, Doyle, D. Goedert (taxi squad)


TEAM TWO
**Currently in championship game**
12 Team PPR League / 5pt passing TDs / 28 man rosters
Start 1QB 2RB 3WR 1Flex 1TE 1K 1D
QB- D. Brees, J. Winston, Tannehill
RB- J. Connor, L. Bell, T. Coleman, M. Mack, K. Dixon, J. Samuels, A. Collins (IR), C. Hyde, D. Booker, C. Ivory, Ridley
WR- B. Cooks, Diggs, J. Landry, Godwin, Djax, A. Callaway, Taywan Taylor, B. Ellington. I. McKenzie, Albert Wilson (IR)
TE- Kelce, G. Everett, I. Thomas, C. Brate
2019 - 1,2,2,3,3

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Re: Hyde vs Miller

Postby snaps06 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:14 pm

cvbuc wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:12 pm
I'd be A LOT more worried about Foreman than I would be about Joe Williams.
I've pondered this as well. Foreman is much more talented than Williams. Then that got me to thinking... Back when Miller was in Miami and was in a RBBC, he actually put up better overall numbers than he did last year. So, in a weird way, I wonder if having a legit RB to help Miller carry the load will actually make him more productive? I mean check this out:

2014: 216 carries, 1099 yards, 38 catches, 275 yards (1374 total yards), and 9 total TDs.

2015: 194 carries, 872 yards, 47 catches, 397 yards (1269 total yards), and 10 total TDs.

2016: 268 carries, 1073 yards, 31 catches, 188 yards (1261 total yards), and 6 total TDs.

I know a lot of 2016 can be attributed to Brock and his inability to pass the ball and open up the run game, but I also wonder if a better QB plus being in a RBBC will actually put Miller back into top-10 standard points?

I'm just trying to talk out loud as I make my decision. I have until tomorrow to decide. Thanks to everyone that has helped!
Team 1: 12-Team 0.5 PPR 2016 and 2017 3rd Place :wall:
REBUILDING 2019
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex
Stafford,Rosen,Tannehill
Duke,CJA,Bernard,M. Brown,Rod Smith
Cooper,Juju,Godwin,Kirk,Washington,DavidMoore,Rogers,Doctson
Ebron,Henry,Walker,McDonald
2019 Picks: 1.6, 1.8, 2.3, 2.9, 2.13, 3, 4, 5
2020 picks: 1,1,1,2,2,2,2,3,3,3,5

Team 2: 12-Team 0.5 PPR 2017 Runner-Up :boohoo:
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex
Rivers,Stafford,Rosen
Conner,Zeke,Bell,Hyde,Duke,Breida,Davis
Hopkins,Cooks,Watkins,Woods,M. Williams,Bryant
Ebron,Kittle,McDonald,Henry
2019 Picks: 2
2020 Picks: 1,2,3

Team 3: 14-Team SF,Full PPR,0.25/rush 2018 3rd Place
QB RB RB WR WR TE Flex Flex Flex Superflex
Luck,Cousins,Jackson,Hoyer
Zeke,Ingram,Crowell,Yeldon,Smith,Blue
Evans,Watkins,Boyd,Doctson,Grant,Moore
Burton,McDonald,Shaheen
2019 Picks: 1.01

Team 4: 12-Team 0.5 PPR
QB RB RB WR WR TE FLEX FLEX
Rivers,Rosen,Fitz
Gurley,Fournette,Gordon,Ingram,Yeldon,CJA,Brown
Julio,Landry,TWilliams,Enunwa
Olsen,Njoku,Clay


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