[POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
[POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Our draft is 3 weeks away and one of the owners just sent a blind offer that would constitute a mega deal and land them a bunch of picks.
I would be giving away:
Jordan Howard (July ADP - 21)
Terrelle Pryor (40)
Devante Parker (55)
#3 Pick
#4 Pick
#9 Pick
#11 Pick
#12 Pick
And Receiving:
Julio Jones (8)
Davante Adams (28)
Jordy Nelson (32)
Marcus Mariota (67, but more valuable in my league due to being 2 QB)
I spent last season tearing down and rebuilding, and it feels odd to immediately swap out all of those young assets and picks to go right back into competitive mode, but curious to hear the thoughts of the room. How would you respond to this trade offer?
I would be giving away:
Jordan Howard (July ADP - 21)
Terrelle Pryor (40)
Devante Parker (55)
#3 Pick
#4 Pick
#9 Pick
#11 Pick
#12 Pick
And Receiving:
Julio Jones (8)
Davante Adams (28)
Jordy Nelson (32)
Marcus Mariota (67, but more valuable in my league due to being 2 QB)
I spent last season tearing down and rebuilding, and it feels odd to immediately swap out all of those young assets and picks to go right back into competitive mode, but curious to hear the thoughts of the room. How would you respond to this trade offer?
8 team league - Year 5 - Standard - No PPR (no negatives for INT/FL)
2QB/3RB/4WR/1TE
QB: Ryan(T) – Rivers(T) – Kizer(2) – Mahomes(2)
RB: J.Howard(T) – Ajayi(T) – Cook(1) – Mixon(1) – Henry(1) – Abdullah(T) – Conner(4) – Cohen(8)
WR: Dez(T) – Cooks(T) – Parker(T) – Pryor Sr.(T) – Coleman(1) – Doctson(T) – Meredith(3)
TE: Kelce(5) - Engram(2)
(T) = traded for, (#) = taken in rookie/FA draft (rd selected), (W) = waiver claim
2018 Draft Picks: #'s 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
2014 CHAMPION
***NEW*** Team Profile: http://imgur.com/a/rL8Gt
2QB/3RB/4WR/1TE
QB: Ryan(T) – Rivers(T) – Kizer(2) – Mahomes(2)
RB: J.Howard(T) – Ajayi(T) – Cook(1) – Mixon(1) – Henry(1) – Abdullah(T) – Conner(4) – Cohen(8)
WR: Dez(T) – Cooks(T) – Parker(T) – Pryor Sr.(T) – Coleman(1) – Doctson(T) – Meredith(3)
TE: Kelce(5) - Engram(2)
(T) = traded for, (#) = taken in rookie/FA draft (rd selected), (W) = waiver claim
2018 Draft Picks: #'s 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
2014 CHAMPION
***NEW*** Team Profile: http://imgur.com/a/rL8Gt
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Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
I think it's a pretty even deal on "value", but I'd sit tight if I were you. Of the pieces you're getting back, I think all but Mariota are worth less next year. Also, you'd be giving up your top RB while transitioning to a win-now roster that won't be able to win now without him.
12 Team Superflex - PPR, 0.25 PPC - QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex/Superflex
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
QB: L Jackson, Tagovailoa, Rodgers, Pickett, Tannehill
RB: Swift, Pacheco, Sanders, Hubbard, Spears, Dillon, Herbert, McLaughlin, Chandler, Dowdle
WR: DeVonta, Waddle, Aiyuk, Nacua, McLaurin, Hopkins, M Williams, Mingo, Wan’Dale, Hyatt
TE: Kelce, Okonkwo, Schoonmaker
Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Well said. Great points.Ruggenater wrote: ↑Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:42 am I think it's a pretty even deal on "value", but I'd sit tight if I were you. Of the pieces you're getting back, I think all but Mariota are worth less next year. Also, you'd be giving up your top RB while transitioning to a win-now roster that won't be able to win now without him.
8 team league - Year 5 - Standard - No PPR (no negatives for INT/FL)
2QB/3RB/4WR/1TE
QB: Ryan(T) – Rivers(T) – Kizer(2) – Mahomes(2)
RB: J.Howard(T) – Ajayi(T) – Cook(1) – Mixon(1) – Henry(1) – Abdullah(T) – Conner(4) – Cohen(8)
WR: Dez(T) – Cooks(T) – Parker(T) – Pryor Sr.(T) – Coleman(1) – Doctson(T) – Meredith(3)
TE: Kelce(5) - Engram(2)
(T) = traded for, (#) = taken in rookie/FA draft (rd selected), (W) = waiver claim
2018 Draft Picks: #'s 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
2014 CHAMPION
***NEW*** Team Profile: http://imgur.com/a/rL8Gt
2QB/3RB/4WR/1TE
QB: Ryan(T) – Rivers(T) – Kizer(2) – Mahomes(2)
RB: J.Howard(T) – Ajayi(T) – Cook(1) – Mixon(1) – Henry(1) – Abdullah(T) – Conner(4) – Cohen(8)
WR: Dez(T) – Cooks(T) – Parker(T) – Pryor Sr.(T) – Coleman(1) – Doctson(T) – Meredith(3)
TE: Kelce(5) - Engram(2)
(T) = traded for, (#) = taken in rookie/FA draft (rd selected), (W) = waiver claim
2018 Draft Picks: #'s 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4
2014 CHAMPION
***NEW*** Team Profile: http://imgur.com/a/rL8Gt
Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Ya I agree with the poster above. It's a fairly even trade, but there is so much going on its hard to breakdown. In a nonppr league, young rbs are worth a lot, but so is someone like Mariota in a 2qb league. I would pass, or try and work a smaller deal with the other owner if they are looking for rookie picks. Try moving some of your picks for Julio or Mariota
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Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Realistically Mariota and Julio in a 2qb format are probably close to worth what you are giving up, however given you are rebuilding it doesn't make much sense to acquire older veteran assets such as Julio and Jordy unless you can flip them for more than what you are giving up
10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
20: 1.02,1.08,2.01,2.05,2.08
21: 2 1sts
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 2FLX 1 DE,DT,LB,S,CB,FLX,DL/DB
QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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10Team-2QB 2RB 3WR 1TE 1FLX 1DL 1LB 1DB 1FLX
QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
20: 1.06, 1.10, 2.06
Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Because it's a 2QB league, this is an "instant accept" for me.
Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Same here. In a 2QB league Mariota pushes that side over the top for me.
10 team | 10 Keepers | .5 ppr | QB | RBx2 | WRx2 | RB/WR/TE | WR/TE | K | D/ST
QB: Burrow | Prescott
RB: Chubb | Dobbins | Sanders | Edwards-Helaire | Patterson | Edmonds | Henderson | Edwards | Benjamin
WR/TE: Moore | London | Kelce | Cooks | Lockett | Lazard | Parker | Jones
QB: Burrow | Prescott
RB: Chubb | Dobbins | Sanders | Edwards-Helaire | Patterson | Edmonds | Henderson | Edwards | Benjamin
WR/TE: Moore | London | Kelce | Cooks | Lockett | Lazard | Parker | Jones
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I'm not sure if you can afford to lose Howard with your current RBs. See if you can negotiate
Team 1: 8team 24rosterspots 0PPR; 2QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 3RWT
QB Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Baker Mayfield, Nick Foles, Daniel Jones
RB David Johnson, Ezekiel Elliot, Saquon Barkley, Ingram, McKinnon, Mattison
WR Antonio Brown, Brandin Cooks, Stephon Diggs, Tyler Lockett, Boyd, Dede, Valdez-Scantling
TE Jordan Reed, OJ Howard, Delanie Walker
2020 picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2021 picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Team 2: 10team 25rosterspots 1PPR: 2QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3RWT
QB Newton, Stafford, Baker, Darnold
RB David Johnson, Ingram, Royce, Adrian Peterson, CJA, Wilkins, Latavius
WR OBJ, Hopkins, Cooks, TY Hilton, Kelvin, John Brown, Snead, Gallup, Pettis, Gabriel, Ryan Grant, Paul Richardson,
TE Cook, Jesse James
2019 picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
QB Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, Baker Mayfield, Nick Foles, Daniel Jones
RB David Johnson, Ezekiel Elliot, Saquon Barkley, Ingram, McKinnon, Mattison
WR Antonio Brown, Brandin Cooks, Stephon Diggs, Tyler Lockett, Boyd, Dede, Valdez-Scantling
TE Jordan Reed, OJ Howard, Delanie Walker
2020 picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd
2021 picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
Team 2: 10team 25rosterspots 1PPR: 2QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 3RWT
QB Newton, Stafford, Baker, Darnold
RB David Johnson, Ingram, Royce, Adrian Peterson, CJA, Wilkins, Latavius
WR OBJ, Hopkins, Cooks, TY Hilton, Kelvin, John Brown, Snead, Gallup, Pettis, Gabriel, Ryan Grant, Paul Richardson,
TE Cook, Jesse James
2019 picks 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th
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Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
I'd stand pat easily.
Pryor, Howard, and Parker all stand to significantly increase in value come next year.
Julio, and Nelson are almost guaranteed to lose value, and I'm not a big Adams fan.
You're solid at QB so though Mariota is a top flight asset in 2QB you don't need him, and the draft picks will stack your roster out for years to come.
Pryor, Howard, and Parker all stand to significantly increase in value come next year.
Julio, and Nelson are almost guaranteed to lose value, and I'm not a big Adams fan.
You're solid at QB so though Mariota is a top flight asset in 2QB you don't need him, and the draft picks will stack your roster out for years to come.
Fig Newtons - 12 team superflex .5 ppr, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, Flex, SF
QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
Picks: 2023 - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5
DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks
QB - Dak, Brissett, Purdy
RB - Najee, Swift, J.Robinson, D.Henderson, McKinnon,
WR - M.Thomas, D.Hop, DJ Moore, Miller, G.Davis, MVS
TE - Kittle, Gesicki, Hockenson
Picks: 2023 - 1, 2, 2, 3, 4
Young Newts - 14 team .25 ppr Superflex, qb, 2 rb, 3 wr, te, wr/rb, OP
QB - Allen, Wilson, Cousins
RB - Chubb, L.Bell, Ingram, K.Johnson, Mack, T.Coleman
WR - M.Thomas, OBJ, Woods, Moore, Godwin, R.Anderson
TE - Gesicki, Witten, Irv
Picks: 2022 - 3, 4, 5
DirkaDirka - 12 team PPR Superflex
QB: Mayfield, Allen, M.Ryan, Bridgewater, Mond
RB: Mixon, Swift, Sanders, Ekeler, DJ, Kerryon
WR: Tyreek, A.Cooper, D.Adams, A-Rob, C.Davis, P.Williams, V.Jefferson, Duverney
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Hollister
2022: All picks
Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Not only is this a 2Qb league, but it's an 8 team league. Depth is almost worthless at this point and you need studs. Not sure how this is even close.
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In a 2QB league, you're getting the two best players in the deal, in Mariota and Julio. I would absolutely instant-accept this.
Try to flip someone later if you want.
Try to flip someone later if you want.
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Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
its an 8 team, 2 qb league though, not near as hard to find qbs as a standard 12 teamer. Id have no issue with making the trade but it buys you a bunch of win now pieces and leaves you needing another top rb to win in 8 team league so I'd need to have framework to get an rb with another team worked out to accept it.
10 team, .5 ppr dynasty
QB: Brady, Wilson
RB: Fournette, cook, mixon, Ajayi, Gordon, Ware, Joe Williams, Hunt, Martin
WR: Evans, TY, Dez, Sammy, Coleman, Diggs, Ross, White, Fitz
TE: Watson, Eifert, Bennet
PPR 12 team superflex, limited devy (1 per year) heavy return yardage
Cousins, Rivers, Kizer
Fournette, Zeke, Mixon, mcCaffrey, Joe Williams, Mcnichols, Mack, Martin
Cooper, Evans, Watkins, Coleman, Diggs, Martavis, Chad Williams, Parker
Henry, Rudolph, Hodges
QB: Brady, Wilson
RB: Fournette, cook, mixon, Ajayi, Gordon, Ware, Joe Williams, Hunt, Martin
WR: Evans, TY, Dez, Sammy, Coleman, Diggs, Ross, White, Fitz
TE: Watson, Eifert, Bennet
PPR 12 team superflex, limited devy (1 per year) heavy return yardage
Cousins, Rivers, Kizer
Fournette, Zeke, Mixon, mcCaffrey, Joe Williams, Mcnichols, Mack, Martin
Cooper, Evans, Watkins, Coleman, Diggs, Martavis, Chad Williams, Parker
Henry, Rudolph, Hodges
Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
I agreed at first, but it's also a 3RB league. I like the value you are getting back, but having to start 3RBs would force me to keep the picks and draft 2 in the first 4 picks. You gathered these picks to do a rebuild, so follow through.
Wasteland
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
12-team, PPR 25 roster 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1(RB/WR/TE), 1 D/ST
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson
RB J. Taylor, D. Henry, M. Sanders, B. Hall, T. Sermon, C. Patterson, P. Strong, K. Ingram, TDP, D. Achane, K. Miller, R. Johnson
WR AJ Brown, C. Ridley, J. Chase, C. Lamb, JSN, G. Pickens, K. Osborn, J. Meyers, A. Pierce, T. Scott
TE T. Kelce, D. Goedert, G. Dulcich, J. Woods
D/ST MIN, PIT, DEN
Panthers
12-team SF, .5 PPR 35 roster: 1QB, 1SF, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2FLEX, 2DB, 2LB, 2DL, 1FLEX
QB J. Burrow, A. Richardson, J. Winston, S. Howell
RB J. Mixon, E. Elliott, N. Chubb, J. Kelley, K. Harris, J. Ford
WR D. Hopkins, C. Godwin, T. Higgins, C. Ridley, J. Smith-Njigba, J. Mingo
TE T. Kelce, K. Pitts, Z. Ertz, D. Goedert, J. Ferguson
DB R. Grant, J. Simmons
DL D. Hunter, A. Highsmith, S. Hubbard
LB C. Mosley, A. Singleton, P. Queen, D. Deablo
Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
While I agree with the opinions above that it would severely hurt your RB situation (especially in a start 3 RB league), I think the value you're getting is just too good to pass up. I would first try to swap Cooks for either Howard or the 1.03. If that's a no-go, just accept the trade as is. There should still be decent rookie RBs available at picks 14 & 17, and it's not like this is the last trade you can make before the season starts. You still have plenty of time to address your RB situation. Assuming you accept the trade as it stands, I would be looking to trade Jordy, Rivers or Ryan for an RB1. Maybe wait until after your draft. You could probably snag Marlon Mack with pick 14 or 17 and then acquire Frank Gore relatively cheaply. Even after giving up all of those picks, I think you'd still have plenty of desirable pieces to use to fill the void at RB, whether you're trading Jordy to another contender or someone like Doctson or Coleman to a rebuilding owner.
Long story short, take the incredible value now and worry about your RB situation tomorrow.
Long story short, take the incredible value now and worry about your RB situation tomorrow.
Both are 12-team 1QB PPR dynasties
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
🦬PRIME🦬
QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
Taxi: Willis, Z. White, M. Mims, T. Palmer
Hull Awaits
$450 cap, 60 contract years
QB: Lawrence $5/3, Richardson $5/5, Minshew $1/0, Jones $1/0, Heinicke $1/0, Tyrod $1/0
RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
TE: Thomas $1/0, Hill $1/0, Parham $1/0
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Re: [POLL] WR Smorgasbord for Picks
Accept, then trade for an RB. I wouldn't advise trying to tweak this deal too much if you feel then value is there for you. All too many times I've tried to squeeze an ounce more and ended up with nothing. You'll have plenty of ammo at WR to go and get a top back.
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