Was this a horrible trade? Or am I biased?

[hockeyBjj]

Update: Commissioner putting the bad owner on blast in the group chat not just for this trade, but others as well. He's also traded away his first round draft pick (the 1.1) the last two years mid season for value like it was a late first. Yesterday he traded away Enuwa for Coby Fleener to a different team; but I have no idea the value of either of these guys on if it was lopsided or no.

Champ who made this trade is defending him and accusing everyone of just being jealous and wanting to dethrone him (valid points)

I'm grabbing popcorn, sitting back, and staying out of this

[mclilj]

This is a terrible trade. Honestly smells like collusion

[jimmy jr.]

Horrible.........

[albedo1986]

Terrible trade, jesus christ find a way to get that reversed lol

[AresGodOWar]

It's not good but not horrible Lynch and Woodhead aren't worth more than a mid to late 2nd each

[AresGodOWar]

We have a similar situation on our league. Bottom dweller is in full fire sale mode. His has indicated his thought process is he'll take best offer for all his old guys. Since there is very little activity in our league (unless its a one-sided trade), he makes some lopsided deals. He recently sold Jimmy Graham and Frank Gore to the dominant team in our league for Joe Williams and Josh Reynolds. Not as bad as above, but still too cheap imo. But if no one else is willing to make an offer, he takes what he can get.

I don't think Jimmy and Gore for Joe is bad at all , Graham is around late 1st - early 2nd about , Gore I seen go for a 3rd not to long ago , Joe Williams is being drafted in the 1st round in a lot of leagues now and I got offered a 2018 1st for him in another league

[Coogan Football]

It is a bad trade....a very bad trade...

....but, I wouldn't be too worried. Woodhead always gets injured and we have no idea what Lynch has going on this year. Both guys around just hype pieces right now.

This is kind of where I'm at as well, it's bad but not egregious.

[SteveMaddensShoes]

I think if he ONLY trades with the winner it's a bit fishy, but in general it's not even that big of a deal. I mean, the value isn't even that far off I don't think. A month ago I saw people saying they wouldn't draft Lynch until at least the 3rd round of a FA draft(it's only changed because the season is almost upon us and our long range view gets completely skewed), so there's your 2018 3rd. And for a loser, Woodhead is worth less than Conley and Simms is a throw in with some sleeper potential.

Now, he is a losing player because he obviously makes trades without capitalizing on the full potential of his players by selling at the wrong time. But I have guys like that in my league. For whatever reason they get overly excited about some rookie or some hyped breakout they don't think straight and just have to have the guy. There's no way to understand what goes on in the mind of a poor dynasty player. It's just squirrels running wild up in the empty space between the ears.


Also, it's a 10 team league so I don't think Lynch and Woodhead are game changers like they would be in a deeper league with large starting requirements.

My own commissioner pulls off deals like this sometimes and it irritates me since he should be more concerned with the welfare of the league but I've also seen them backfire. Last year it looked like he pulled a fast one on the worst team in the league for their 1st round pick this year. They swapped 1st rounders and the commish threw in a bunch of pieces like CJ Prosise and other similar players. Turns out they finished 5th and 7th and ended up just giving away alot to move up a couple spots. I still think it was a poor decision but these things are never as serious as they first appear.

Now if anyone comes forward and says, hey, I offered this dude a 1st and Devante Parker for Lynch and Woodhead then you are going to have a real problem on your hands...

[M-Dub]

The Enunwa for Fleener deal is way worse than the one in the original post. At least the Lynch deal makes sense for a rebuilding team, even though he likely could've gotten more. Trading Enunwa for Fleener is just abject stupidity.

[jeffster]

It may not be the best trade the weak team could have done, but it seems reasonable to me. Those 30 year old backs may not even make it through camp without injuries, at which point their value would vanish. Conley has enough upside to make it solid.

[cvbuc]

Nothing bad about the trades. And if the best team is so good, I doubt Lynch and Woodhead are making a huge difference to his lineup.

Here's what's bad...
The rest of the league is sleepwalking while the best owner continues to buy low from the worst team in the league. Seems like EVERY other owner could have put together decent offers to make similar trades if that's what they wanted to do. They obviously didn't.

You can't expect the lower teams to stand pat. Be thankful the worst team is being proactive and trying to get younger and accrue draft capital - that keeps the league strong and sustained for the long term.

[AresGodOWar]

Nothing bad about the trades. And if the best team is so good, I doubt Lynch and Woodhead are making a huge difference to his lineup.

Here's what's bad...
The rest of the league is sleepwalking while the best owner continues to buy low from the worst team in the league. Seems like EVERY other owner could have put together decent offers to make similar trades if that's what they wanted to do. They obviously didn't.

You can't expect the lower teams to stand pat. Be thankful the worst team is being proactive and trying to get younger and accrue draft capital - that keeps the league strong and sustained for the long term.

%100 truth , Make offers yourselves don't hate on someone that is active

[The Red Rooster]

Based on value (I have seen Lynch go early in rookie/FA drafts...late 1st/early 2) I think it was a terrible deal...

My exact thoughts.

[The Red Rooster]

We have a similar situation on our league. Bottom dweller is in full fire sale mode. His has indicated his thought process is he'll take best offer for all his old guys. Since there is very little activity in our league (unless its a one-sided trade), he makes some lopsided deals. He recently sold Jimmy Graham and Frank Gore to the dominant team in our league for Joe Williams and Josh Reynolds. Not as bad as above, but still too cheap imo. But if no one else is willing to make an offer, he takes what he can get.

Hard to blame the guy acquiring younger players here...he made it known to the league...and the dominant team sent an offer...if others don't send offers, what is the guy supposed to do?

[jermainew]

There doesn't HAVE to be collusion to have trades that are bad for a league. Maybe one trade isn't going to make anyone lose sleep, but the culmination of several bad trades can drag a league down severely.