Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

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Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby CooperCrush » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:38 am

Team in sig 1. So the team owner of Zeke said he would be interested in a trade involving Cooper for Zeke. This is just early talks, but I'm sure I will have to add something to Cooper. My question is that I really like having 4 elite WRs and think my rb group is good. Should I consider trading Cooper for Zeke or stay put? Not worried about value at this moment, more in what makes sense for my team.
Team 1: 1 PPR- 1 qb, 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 d, 1k

QB: Herber, Rodgers, Lawrence
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Walker, J Cook, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Henry
2024 picks: 1.1 and 1.9

Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
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QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas

Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby Chandler Bing » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:53 am

Keep Cooper

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby grooner » Fri Jul 28, 2017 4:55 am

There's no real reason you need Elliot as your rbs are quite good, but it depends on what he wants with cooper for Elliot. If it's not too much, getting Elliot will upgrade your team, or you can flip him for more later

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby gerg4747 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:12 am

I think it depends on how much you have to add, but as of right now you aren't even starting Cooper outside of injuries and byes. I think adding Zeke will make your starting lineup much better. If it brings you that much closer to a championship, then it is worth it, regardless of value.
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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby roseyknee » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:49 am

I'd look to add Bell or DJ instead if you're moving Cooper. They'll give you more of a weekly advantage and have a similar-ish cost

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby BradysBunch » Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:54 am

gerg4747 wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:12 am I think it depends on how much you have to add, but as of right now you aren't even starting Cooper outside of injuries and byes. I think adding Zeke will make your starting lineup much better. If it brings you that much closer to a championship, then it is worth it, regardless of value.
Agree with this. There are only 3 elite RBS right now. I tried giving Evans and a late first for Zeke and I couldn't get it done.
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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby murphysxm » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:08 am

BradysBunch wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2017 5:54 am
Agree with this. There are only 3 elite RBS right now. I tried giving Evans and a late first for Zeke and I couldn't get it done.
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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby pokerplayer1000 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:26 am

Personally I would keep cooper and look to maybe offer gurley + for zeke. or maybe McCoy...see if that is an interest
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QB: Watson/Lamar/FitzMAGIC
RB: Cook/Jacobs/Kamara/Guice/JWilliams
WR: Kupp/Landry/CRidley/Sutton/Fitz/Campbell/Agholar/Boykin
TE: Henry/Hooper/Fant
DL: Houston/Calias
LB: Littleton/Blake
DB: Walker/Bell
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21: 2 1sts
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QB: Goff/Stafford/Fitz/Allen/Luck
RB: Zeke/CMC/DJ/Thompson/Barber/Laird
WR: OBJ/Amari/Keenan/Thielen/Fitz/Deebo/Beasley/Boykin/Renfrow/Harmon(TS)
TE: Ebron/Hooper/Vance/Hurst(TS)/Knox(TS)
DE: Jordan/Bosa/Lawerence
DT: Lawerence/Reader
LB: Jaylon/Martinez/Roquan/Campbell
CB: TWhite/King
S: Johnson III/Bell/Jenkins
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QB: Goff/BigBen/Ryan/Rivers/Minshew
RB: MG3/Kamara/Thompson/AP
WR: Julio/Nuk/Adams/MJones/Fitz/Lazard/Tate/Isabella(TS)/Renfrow(TS)
TE: Ertz/Higbee/Ebron/Vance/Knox
DL: Lawerence/Jones(KC)/Ingram
LB: DWhite/Leonard/Werner
DB: Walker/Humphrey
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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby Goddard » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:03 am

Obviously depends on what you're adding to Cooper, but judging by your handle, you're not going to want to add much and I don't see this going anywhere.

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby thomasscheeks » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:08 am

Just stick with what you have. Your team is set up perfectly for a championship run
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RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds

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QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

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QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby RB6 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:24 am

You don't need Zeke.
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LJax, Burrow, Carr, Huntley, Heinicke, Cunningham
Adams, Kupp, Deebo, M Brown, Kirk, Wiliams, C Samuel, Palmer, E. Moore, Hodgins, Hutchinson
CMC, Barkley, Mostert, Ford, Moss, Dobbins, Dillon, Kelley, Tucker
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Henry, Pacheco, Robinson, Wilson, Ford, Chandler, Deuce
Hill, Kupp, Shaheed, Toney, Lazard, Metchie, Mingo, Slayton, Shenault, Atwell, Hutchinson
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Walker, J Cook, Miller, Zamir, Rodriguez, Carter, Penny
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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby CooperCrush » Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:28 am

I think the most I would add to Cooper is Duke, sims, or a second.
Team 1: 1 PPR- 1 qb, 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 d, 1k

QB: Herber, Rodgers, Lawrence
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Walker, J Cook, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Henry
2024 picks: 1.1 and 1.9

Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters

Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas

Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby thomasscheeks » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:04 am

CooperCrush wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:28 am I think the most I would add to Cooper is Duke, sims, or a second.
This isn't realistic though. Judging by your name, I think it's safe to say you're higher on Cooper than most. lol
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RB: Jacobs, Javonte, Drake, Mack
WR: Thomas, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Golladay, Mooney, Kirk, Shepard, Parker
TE: Kittle, Ito Smith, Ebron, Bryant, Seals-Jones
DT: Simmons, Cox, Oliver, Vea
DL: Bosa, Hunter, Heyward, Greenard, Odeyingbo
LB: Watt, White, Cunningham, Kirksey
DB: Collins, Duggar, J Reid, Clark, Edmunds

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Tua, Jameis, Cam, Taysom
RB: Taylor, Javonte, CEH
WR: Jefferson, Nuk, Diontae, Juju, Shepard, Mooney, Robby Anderson
TE: Henry, Gesicki, Brevin, Cook

12 Man, 1 ppr, 1 QB, 1-3 RB, 1-3 WR, 1 TE
QB: Russ, Matty Ice, Tannehill
RB: CMC, Dobbins, Sanders. Scott, Mack
WR: Nuk, Keenan, Mooney, Patrick, Collins, Dyami
TE: Andrews, Schultz, Brevin, Akins

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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby skip » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:16 am

CooperCrush wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:28 am I think the most I would add to Cooper is Duke, sims, or a second.
You could probably add all of those and still not bridge the gap.

Realize that Cooper's value right now is as an elite WR but is absent the production of an elite WR so that value is on his upside. Consider other WRs like Hopkins or ARob who this time a year ago were considered elite but then had down seasons. This could just as easily happen to Cooper. Zeke's value is based on him already demonstrating that he is an elite RB and one of a select few.

I would not be using ADP to try to justify what is in reality a sizable gap between the two players. It is very reasonable to expect at least a 1st round pick in addition to Cooper to give up Zeke.

I don't think you need Zeke but he gives your backfield more security. Judgment call but you need to be more realistic.
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Re: Get Zeke or stick with Cooper

Postby M-Dub » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:32 am

CooperCrush wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:28 am I think the most I would add to Cooper is Duke, sims, or a second.
I thought you said you weren't worried about value. Haha. Offer him Cooper and your 2018 1st. It's most likely gonna be late. Zeke could be the difference between a near miss and a championship.
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RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
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RB: Achane $4/4, Warren $2/4, Roschon $7/5, Dillon $4/1, Hubbard $2/1, Kelley $1/0
WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
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