Brady value?
Brady value?
12 tm PPR, 4 pts per QB TD pass... I am in a bit of a rebuild. An owner is interested in Brady and sent the following offer:
I give: Brady and Maclin
I get: Wentz and Prosise
I have Stafford as well at QB, and really like Prosise. Is this a pretty fair offer? Most of the other pieces on his team are higher end guys (Howard, Ajayi, McCaffrey, M.Thomas, D.Parker, etc)....
I give: Brady and Maclin
I get: Wentz and Prosise
I have Stafford as well at QB, and really like Prosise. Is this a pretty fair offer? Most of the other pieces on his team are higher end guys (Howard, Ajayi, McCaffrey, M.Thomas, D.Parker, etc)....
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Re: Brady value?
He is sending you back of the bench depth guys for a top 5 QB and a solid WR. If he wants to win now you need to get at least Thomas added to this deal.
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RB: Mixon, Henry, Booker, Miller, Mack, McNichols, Ballage
WR: Davis, Treadwell, Jmatt, Beasley, DJ Moore, J Washington, Tre’ Smith, Prich, Taywan Taylor, Chad Williams, Benjamin, Krishawn Hogan
TE: Njoku, McDonald
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Re: Brady value?
It's not terrible, but I would keep what you have.
Team 1: 1 PPR- 1 qb, 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 1 flex, 1 d, 1k
QB: Herber, Rodgers, Lawrence
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Walker, J Cook, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Henry
2024 picks: 1.1 and 1.9
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
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Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo
QB: Herber, Rodgers, Lawrence
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, Walker, J Cook, Kamara, Dobbins, Mixon, Ford
WR: AJB, DK, Godwin, Higgins, Pittman, London, J Williams, Sutton, Mooney,
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Henry
2024 picks: 1.1 and 1.9
Team 2: 12 team 1 PPR-1 qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, 1 flex
25 team rosters
Team 2
QB:Allen, Fields, Carr
RB: CMC, Swift, JT, ETN, LF, Hines, Allgeier, Benjamin
WR: Godwin, Diggs, Boyd, M Brown, Claypool, ARSB, osbourne, C Davis, Wakins,
TE: Waller, Engram, L Thomas
Team 3 48 teams:half PPR- 1qb (6pts TD), 2 wr, 2 rb, 1 te, 2flex, 1d, 1pk
QB: Wilson, Josh Allen
RB: Mixon, Chubb, Jacobs, Montgomery, Henderson, Pollard, Bernard, R Freeman, L Miller
WR: Godwin, AJ Brown, ARob, Ridley, Chark, C Davis, JJAW, Ross
TE: Hooper, Herndon, Knox, Oliver, Jonnu
Def: Bills, Saints
PK: Lambo
Re: Brady value?
It's not a bad offer, but I'd try to get him to throw in a 2nd since I expect Brady to outscore Wentz and Maclin to outscore Prosise this year.
Re: Brady value?
Michael Thomas? Would cost quite a bit more than Brady/Maclin, lolRtreilly81 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:02 am He is sending you back of the bench depth guys for a top 5 QB and a solid WR. If he wants to win now you need to get at least Thomas added to this deal.
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Re: Brady value?
I tried to force a rebuild when I should have reloaded, so I know all about giving away value to try and speed that rebuild up. My advice is to sit tight, don't force it. The value of Brady to a contender isnt going to go down over the next couple of months. Take your time thrashing out a deal that is right for you.
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TE - T.Hockenson, B.Jarwin, D.Knox, J.Smith
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WR -Evans, Smith-Schuster, Golladay, C. Godwin, T.Higgins, A. Lazard
TE - D. Waller, I.Thomas
QB - S.Darnold, D.Lock
RB - J. Taylor, CEH, K. Hunt, A.McFarland, R.Armstead, D.Evans, D. Dallas, L.Bowden
WR - C. Lamb, J.Jeudy, J. Jefferson, H. Ruggs, D.Mims, L.Shenault, P.Campbell, Z.Pascal, A. Lazard
TE - T.Hockenson, B.Jarwin, D.Knox, J.Smith
2x 2021 1st
12team, PPR, SF
QB-RBx2-WRx2-SF-FLX
QB - Baker, Prescott, Stidham
RB - D.Freeman,A.Jones, Jam.Williams, R.JIII, K.Balage, G.Edwards
WR -Evans, Smith-Schuster, Golladay, C. Godwin, T.Higgins, A. Lazard
TE - D. Waller, I.Thomas
Re: Brady value?
Agree with the first part, but Mike Thomas (as long as it's not Rams MT) is way too much to expect back with Procise and Wentz.Rtreilly81 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:02 am He is sending you back of the bench depth guys for a top 5 QB and a solid WR. If he wants to win now you need to get at least Thomas added to this deal.
I'd try to get Parker, though.
Maybe counter with Brady, Maclin and a 2nd (not your own if you have another, as you are making your team worse) for Wentz, Procise and Parker.
Basically add in Parker for a 2nd to the deal to bring it back to even, IMO
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Re: Brady value?
I like this idea.Valhalla wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:38 amAgree with the first part, but Mike Thomas (as long as it's not Rams MT) is way too much to expect back with Procise and Wentz.Rtreilly81 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:02 am He is sending you back of the bench depth guys for a top 5 QB and a solid WR. If he wants to win now you need to get at least Thomas added to this deal.
I'd try to get Parker, though.
Maybe counter with Brady, Maclin and a 2nd (not your own if you have another, as you are making your team worse) for Wentz, Procise and Parker.
Basically add in Parker for a 2nd to the deal to bring it back to even, IMO
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Re: Brady value?
I agree that it is a fair deal. I'd wait to sell Brady for more once the season starts and a contender needs to better their QB situation.
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12tm, Super-flex, 1PPR, start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/OP
QB: ARod, Wilson, Goff, Winston, Taysom Hill
RB: Cook, Mack, Barber, L. Murray, Ito Smith, Bibbs
WR: ARob, Kupp, Miller(Chi), Agholar, Doctson, Grant, Gordon Z. Jones, Quinn(Wsh), Wilson(Mia)
TE: Reed, Ebron, Andrews, V. Davis, Gates, Herndon
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12tm, Super-flex, 1PPR, start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/FLEX/OP
QB: Luck, Tanny, Goff
RB: Henry, Drake
WR: Nuk, ARob, Cooper, JuJu, Shepard, Hurns, Lockett, Stewart, Kupp
TE: Doyle, Allen, Clay
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14tm Super-flex, 1.5PPR and 1.5pts per 10yds for TEs, 1PPR for WRs, .5ppr and .25ppc for RBs. start QB/RB/RB/WR/WR/TE/FLEX/FLEX/OP
QB: Luck, Goff, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Howard, Hines, Kelley, McKinnon, Samuels
WR: Cooks, Ridley, Ross, Callaway, Moncreif, MWilliams, Enunwa, Kupp, Golladay, Kearse, Reynolds
TE: Howard, Hurst
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QB: ARod, Wilson, Goff, Winston, Taysom Hill
RB: Cook, Mack, Barber, L. Murray, Ito Smith, Bibbs
WR: ARob, Kupp, Miller(Chi), Agholar, Doctson, Grant, Gordon Z. Jones, Quinn(Wsh), Wilson(Mia)
TE: Reed, Ebron, Andrews, V. Davis, Gates, Herndon
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QB: Luck, Tanny, Goff
RB: Henry, Drake
WR: Nuk, ARob, Cooper, JuJu, Shepard, Hurns, Lockett, Stewart, Kupp
TE: Doyle, Allen, Clay
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QB: Luck, Goff, Jones
RB: Henry, Ekeler, Howard, Hines, Kelley, McKinnon, Samuels
WR: Cooks, Ridley, Ross, Callaway, Moncreif, MWilliams, Enunwa, Kupp, Golladay, Kearse, Reynolds
TE: Howard, Hurst
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Re: Brady value?
Parker is likely valued too high but it would depend on the guys true needs for QB. I like the trade as I believe in Prosise being the most valuable back in PPR on the hawks this season but more importantly later. But I also think you could probably milk a bit more out of him picks-wise.
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Re: Brady value?
Hold out for a better deal.
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Re: Brady value?
x2...they'll pony up at that time for sure.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
Re: Brady value?
id likely take wentz before brady and procise before maclin in a start up....id take that since your rebuilding.
you haven't listed the details, but this trade is pretty easy if you have a true rebuild on your hands. brady and maclin have nowhere to go but down in terms of value. while procise and wentz have nowhere to go but up when it comes to this particular deal. sure you may be able to get a 1st during the season for these guys, but by that time wentz and procise may be worth much more aswell....id take the chance as long as you still own your own 1st next year. at minimum, your walking away with a franchise qb hopefully. potentially walking away with a solid fantasy qb and nice rb. essentially in a rebuild....walking away with your qb of the future is good imo. you wont have to worry about that going forward in your rebuild.
i will echo what others have said though....there is no reason to force a rebuild. this is not a spectacular offer, but at the same time...if wentz and procise were startable....you wouldnt be seeing it. better to be proactive imo. (if your truly rebuilding).
without seeing your team and pick situation...id suggest that you determine the state of your team. this one seems pretty easy if you arent shooting for the title this season. i have to wonder if maybe your better keeping what you have and continue to piece the puzzle together?
even if brady retires on your team....you have stafford.
you haven't listed the details, but this trade is pretty easy if you have a true rebuild on your hands. brady and maclin have nowhere to go but down in terms of value. while procise and wentz have nowhere to go but up when it comes to this particular deal. sure you may be able to get a 1st during the season for these guys, but by that time wentz and procise may be worth much more aswell....id take the chance as long as you still own your own 1st next year. at minimum, your walking away with a franchise qb hopefully. potentially walking away with a solid fantasy qb and nice rb. essentially in a rebuild....walking away with your qb of the future is good imo. you wont have to worry about that going forward in your rebuild.
i will echo what others have said though....there is no reason to force a rebuild. this is not a spectacular offer, but at the same time...if wentz and procise were startable....you wouldnt be seeing it. better to be proactive imo. (if your truly rebuilding).
without seeing your team and pick situation...id suggest that you determine the state of your team. this one seems pretty easy if you arent shooting for the title this season. i have to wonder if maybe your better keeping what you have and continue to piece the puzzle together?
even if brady retires on your team....you have stafford.
Re: Brady value?
I rejected and countered with a deal for Corey Coleman instead...still waiting for a response
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