Lopsided Trade?

[cd6696]

Just got back from a mini vacation and this trade had gone down. The team getting ARob is the commish, who often sends very one sided offers. 3 of 12 owners have quit due to the trade and I'm curious the forums thoughts on it and what would you do? Several owners felt that the commish shouldn't be taking advantage of owners like this, the commish felt he shouldn't have to not accept trades just because he's the commish. Your thoughts

Team A gives
A Robinson, Paul Perkins

Team B gives
Jalen Richard, Joe Williams, Cam Meredith, and Myles Garrett (for non-idpers, he's roughly a 2nd/3rd rookie pick in value)

[jwint7910]

Lopsided yes... But I don't think everyone should up and quit. One could feel Joe Williams + Richard are about equal to Perkins and if you are not an ARob fan getting rid of him for a young and talented receiver and a generational talent at DE may make sense.

Again, I don't love it, but put you big boy pants on and find those trades if they are out there

[FiremanEd]

Why should the commissioner be held to a different standard than the other members of the league? While I do agree that the commissioner should put the league first, I don't believe any owners should be using this as a reason to quit. If they want to pout and quit that's one thing, but to have an expectation that they could accept but the commissioner can not, isn't logical. They feel that strongly about possible collusion or they don't.

[nabright]

It is lopsided. Not worth the league collapsing over. What if ARob has another year like last year and Meredith scores more than he does? What if Joe Williams wins the starting job outright or with a Hyde injury and becomes a RB1 in a Shanahan offense? I've seen so many bad trades go down in my leagues. Some of those deals surprised me when the next year, the team I thought got trade raped ended up getting the better end of the deal. What if during the rookie draft last year someone traded someone good for DJ or Jordan Howard, and it ended up getting vetoed? You would have screwed that owner over big time bc the values didn't line up at the time. This is dynasty, so let people run their teams how they want. You never know how the trade will play out.

[cd6696]

That's exactly why I'm not quitting the league. I've seen a lot of trades that end up being the other way the next year. It doesn't change that at the time of the deal, the players values were out of whack. I just sent a few offers to the guy giving up ARod. We'll see see what happens moving forward.

[cornhole2412]

On paper the trade is very bad, but real world production could be a lot closer. I wouldn't quit nor would I bash the commish. He shouldn't have to not accept hosejobs just because he runs the league, but the losers that quit could make a deal like that? It's weak and you're league is probably better off for having dropped the dead weight.

[Splinx]

The trade is a little lopsided, but not as most think. I really like Meredith and Garrett! Perkins is a non-factor IMHO. Some really like Williams. The rest is fluff. Not worth quitting over. Not that bad of a trade. We also haven't seen what players the other team has. Everybody values things differently. ‍♂️

[The.Big.Spank]

That's lopsided.

[sloth8u]

meredith or williams may end up being the best own/s going forward.... its just the nature of the game.

perhaps the commish has a history of trades that your leaguemates feel are lopsided? i cant see quitting over 1 particular deal, but if there is some history, i can see leaving and in fact, ive done so myself. we all want a fair chance to compete, and if the playing field isnt level....i personally have no interest in sticking around and maybe those owners had similar feelings.

your commish is right, he has the right to any deal just as do all members in the league. the majority of my leagues all see the commish tend to get "nice deals" for guys that ive targeted over time (sometimes even long periods). owners often feel more comfortable dealing with the commish for some reason, imo.

arob is not as desireable as some would think, when it comes to trading him away. its hard to argue when you look at the numbers. he simply isnt going to get the 180 tgts in all likelihood. alot of owners worry about bortles and or/if he is the long term answer. it would be interesting to know if your leaguemate shopped him, or just took this offer. there is a big difference imo, and quite frankly, your leaguemates should probably be upset at that owner, not the commish. perhaps even themselves for not putting an offer in if they wanted to own him. its one thing if the guy took a lesser offer than another...its completely different if the commish's offer was the only one there.

[pierson242]

Lobsidded yes. But not worth quitting over they are just jealous they didn't get a similar deal. Tell them to grow up!

[Goddard]

Terrible trade, but not worth quitting over. Sounds like the other owners were just upset they didn't trade for Arob.

[sloth8u]

Lobsidded yes. But not worth quitting over they are just jealous they didn't get a similar deal. Tell them to grow up!

this is a common opinion when these topics pop up, but at some point it does get old. "grow up" is not the answer if people feel like they are getting an unfair shake year after year. i have no problem with someone leaving if they believe the commish is screwing over the uninformed owners.

i play with a few commish that are absolutely loaded. some via good trades and drafting, and others because they are constantly ripping owners off. a commish having a good team, does not mean that they need to screw others. im not in this particular league, but if i felt the commish was just ripping people off....i would leave aswell. 1 trade certainly would not dictate any decsion, but history of it....and im gone, because things are not going to change. every time someone needs replaced...the commish brings in "his" guys.

perhaps its just personal experience, and i do know lopsided trades happen...but the "grow up" part only holds so much weight if the guy running the league is constantly making lopsided trades with the other owners. at the end of the day, it only leads to the commish making fair trades with the solid owners and then replenishing via another lopsided deal. if this sounds familiar.... you know exactly what im talking about, and it is not a league that i would stick around.

there are tons of leagues out there, where this does not happen

[cornhole2412]

Lobsidded yes. But not worth quitting over they are just jealous they didn't get a similar deal. Tell them to grow up!

this is a common opinion when these topics pop up, but at some point it does get old. "grow up" is not the answer if people feel like they are getting an unfair shake year after year. i have no problem with someone leaving if they believe the commish is screwing over the uninformed owners.

i play with a few commish that are absolutely loaded. some via good trades and drafting, and others because they are constantly ripping owners off. a commish having a good team, does not mean that they need to screw others. im not in this particular league, but if i felt the commish was just ripping people off....i would leave aswell. 1 trade certainly would not dictate any decsion, but history of it....and im gone, because things are not going to change. every time someone needs replaced...the commish brings in "his" guys.

perhaps its just personal experience, and i do know lopsided trades happen...but the "grow up" part only holds so much weight if the guy running the league is constantly making lopsided trades with the other owners. at the end of the day, it only leads to the commish making fair trades with the solid owners and then replenishing via another lopsided deal. if this sounds familiar.... you know exactly what im talking about, and it is not a league that i would stick around.

there are tons of leagues out there, where this does not happen

Is the commish ripping people off due to "the c word"? Or because he's savvy and finds ways to exploit his league mates love/hate for particular players? If its because he's just really good at buying low, selling high, and negotiating.... they need to grow up and start doing more homework, or play redraft. If it's because of the "big c" than you're right.

But "screwing" people is part of trading. Ever lose a trade than immediately have 10 crummy offers show up at your feet? Or take over an orphan and get a barrage of junk thrown at you to feel you out? Dynasty owners seek opportunity to win trades or t-rape their opponents every chance they get. Quitting a league because someone is way better at it than you is weak, wether that guy is the commish or not.

[jonf86]

Lobsidded yes. But not worth quitting over they are just jealous they didn't get a similar deal. Tell them to grow up!

this is a common opinion when these topics pop up, but at some point it does get old. "grow up" is not the answer if people feel like they are getting an unfair shake year after year. i have no problem with someone leaving if they believe the commish is screwing over the uninformed owners.

i play with a few commish that are absolutely loaded. some via good trades and drafting, and others because they are constantly ripping owners off. a commish having a good team, does not mean that they need to screw others. im not in this particular league, but if i felt the commish was just ripping people off....i would leave aswell. 1 trade certainly would not dictate any decsion, but history of it....and im gone, because things are not going to change. every time someone needs replaced...the commish brings in "his" guys.

perhaps its just personal experience, and i do know lopsided trades happen...but the "grow up" part only holds so much weight if the guy running the league is constantly making lopsided trades with the other owners. at the end of the day, it only leads to the commish making fair trades with the solid owners and then replenishing via another lopsided deal. if this sounds familiar.... you know exactly what im talking about, and it is not a league that i would stick around.

there are tons of leagues out there, where this does not happen

Is the commish ripping people off due to "the c word"? Or because he's savvy and finds ways to exploit his league mates love/hate for particular players? If its because he's just really good at buying low, selling high, and negotiating.... they need to grow up and start doing more homework, or play redraft. If it's because of the "big c" than you're right.

But "screwing" people is part of trading. Ever lose a trade than immediately have 10 crummy offers show up at your feet? Or take over an orphan and get a barrage of junk thrown at you to feel you out? Dynasty owners seek opportunity to win trades or t-rape their opponents every chance they get. Quitting a league because someone is way better at it than you is weak, wether that guy is the commish or not.

Well said. Everyone knew the rules when they signed up. If they're unhappy with the direction of the league, than have a vote at the end of the season to fix it, but quitting is not the answer. I'm sure if those owners who quit had this offer sent to them their answer wouldn't have been, "Oh, that trade is too lopsided in my favor........Let me give you a few 1st rounders to even it out so everyone is happy."

[pierson242]

Lobsidded yes. But not worth quitting over they are just jealous they didn't get a similar deal. Tell them to grow up!

this is a common opinion when these topics pop up, but at some point it does get old. "grow up" is not the answer if people feel like they are getting an unfair shake year after year. i have no problem with someone leaving if they believe the commish is screwing over the uninformed owners.

i play with a few commish that are absolutely loaded. some via good trades and drafting, and others because they are constantly ripping owners off. a commish having a good team, does not mean that they need to screw others. im not in this particular league, but if i felt the commish was just ripping people off....i would leave aswell. 1 trade certainly would not dictate any decsion, but history of it....and im gone, because things are not going to change. every time someone needs replaced...the commish brings in "his" guys.

perhaps its just personal experience, and i do know lopsided trades happen...but the "grow up" part only holds so much weight if the guy running the league is constantly making lopsided trades with the other owners. at the end of the day, it only leads to the commish making fair trades with the solid owners and then replenishing via another lopsided deal. if this sounds familiar.... you know exactly what im talking about, and it is not a league that i would stick around.

there are tons of leagues out there, where this does not happen

Very fair! I guess assuming the commishs team is average and he doesn't do this often then grow up! In the event he's loaded and is constantly doing this I can see where my grow up is uncalled for!