This is for a 12 team, PPR, 1/4pt per carry league. 25 man roster and 1QB/2RB/2wr/1TE/2flex
I got offered a trade where I would receive J. Matthews. I think it's probably fair value, but something about it is bothering me , so I figured I'd throw it on here and see what the community thinks. Keep in mind the 1/4 of per carry scoring, RBs carry a lot more weight in this format than usual. The offer was-
I give: E. McGuire, J. Mcnichols and 2018 2nd and 3rd
I get: J. Matthews, B. Hill
The meat of my team=
Cam Newton, D. Watson
D. Johnson, D. Freeman, J. Ajayi,Ty Montgomery, B. Powell, T. Coleman, K. Drake, J. Mcnichols, E. McGuire
J. Nelson, T. Pryor, B. Marshall, C. Coleman, J. Brown, C. Conley
M. Bennet, Njoku
So I'm a huge McGuire sleeper fan, that's what prob bothers me the most. But I also don't want to be blinded to a good deal. What do you guys say, take it or leave it?
Jordon Matthews dilemma
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
Lots of folks in my circle are high on this McNichols kid. I'd rather keep him and picks over a bonafide WR3, WR2 on his best day. If Dougie sucks and Sims doesn't bounce back then what's stopping McNichols from stealing the starting gig by mid season?
Matthews will be behind Alshon, Ertz and the run game as far as targets. Hell, Smith might even catch a few deeps balls now that he's out of the hell known as SF.
Matthews will be behind Alshon, Ertz and the run game as far as targets. Hell, Smith might even catch a few deeps balls now that he's out of the hell known as SF.
Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
That's super cheap for JMatt imo. McNichols is a late 2nd/early 3rd round pick this year. McGuire even later. You're not giving up much here. JMatt is easily worth a late 1st.
10 team SF .5ppr-QB,2RB,3WR,TE,Flex,SF,Def (30 spots)
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
QB: Allen, AR, Brissett
RB: Mixon,Barkley,Rhamondre,Foreman
WR: Deebo,Adams,Jeudy, Devonta,Nuk
TE: Knox,Chig, Woods, Ferguson
2023 picks: 2, 3, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20
2024 picks: 3 2nds
2025 picks: 3 2nds
Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
Matthews. Who knows with Alshon and Jmatt has had an underrated start to his career imo
Team 1
10 team league full PPR. 6PT Passing Touchdown/3PT Bonus for over 300yd passing/100 yd rush/rec
Start QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/3Flex
QB: Russ Wilson, Cousins
RB: Kamara, Mixon, Aaron Jones, Ekelar, Lat Murray, Ito Smith, Yeldon, Samuels, Rex Burkhead
WR: Juju, Robert Woods, Landry, Demaryius Thomas, Larry Fitz, Chris Godwin, Tre'Quan Smith, Keke Coutee, Josh Reynolds
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Mark Andrews
Team 2
Team team full PPR Start QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/3Flex
QB: Watson, Rivers, Stafford
RB: Guice, Cohen, Chubb, Collins, Derek Henry, Royce Freeman, Ito Smith, Josh Adams
WR: OBJ, Golladay, Funchess, Landry, Corey Davis, Amari Cooper, Allen Robinson, Chris Godwin, Tre'Quan Smith, Josh Malone
TE: Njoku, Ricky Seals-Jones, Goedert, Gesicki
10 team league full PPR. 6PT Passing Touchdown/3PT Bonus for over 300yd passing/100 yd rush/rec
Start QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/3Flex
QB: Russ Wilson, Cousins
RB: Kamara, Mixon, Aaron Jones, Ekelar, Lat Murray, Ito Smith, Yeldon, Samuels, Rex Burkhead
WR: Juju, Robert Woods, Landry, Demaryius Thomas, Larry Fitz, Chris Godwin, Tre'Quan Smith, Keke Coutee, Josh Reynolds
TE: Kelce, Rudolph, Mark Andrews
Team 2
Team team full PPR Start QB/2RB/3WR/1TE/3Flex
QB: Watson, Rivers, Stafford
RB: Guice, Cohen, Chubb, Collins, Derek Henry, Royce Freeman, Ito Smith, Josh Adams
WR: OBJ, Golladay, Funchess, Landry, Corey Davis, Amari Cooper, Allen Robinson, Chris Godwin, Tre'Quan Smith, Josh Malone
TE: Njoku, Ricky Seals-Jones, Goedert, Gesicki
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
Dirt cheap. Did he have a crappy year last year? Yes. Did he start his first two years as a wr 2? Yes. Not every team rolls out AB, Julio, and Odell, so unfortunately some of us need wr 2s and 3s. Alshon will help him more than hurt. If you want a young wr2/wr3 with his best days of football ahead of him do this. You hope these guys turn into half of jmatt, but not so sure they will. I like mcnichols a lot fwiw btw and this still doesn't really do much
12 team superflex qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/wr/te/flex/superflex
Starters in caps.
QB: DAK, BLAKE
Rb: BARKLEY, 4NETTE, HENRY, Yeldon, J.Hill, M. Gillislee.
Wr: NUK, COOKS, AR15, FUNCHESS, Jmatt, Pryor, Boyd, M. Lee, Cole, K. Wright, E. Decker
TE: ENGRAM, Olsen, Ebron
2018 1.12
2019 1,2, 2, 4
16 team superflex
QB
RB
WR
TE
Starters in caps.
QB: DAK, BLAKE
Rb: BARKLEY, 4NETTE, HENRY, Yeldon, J.Hill, M. Gillislee.
Wr: NUK, COOKS, AR15, FUNCHESS, Jmatt, Pryor, Boyd, M. Lee, Cole, K. Wright, E. Decker
TE: ENGRAM, Olsen, Ebron
2018 1.12
2019 1,2, 2, 4
16 team superflex
QB
RB
WR
TE
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
JMatt for me as well.
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
Well you guys make me feel better about him with your opinions. In one of the leagues I'm in we can only keep 18 (also uses 5 IDP players) and Matthews is on the fence as far as keeping for me.
You guys seem to think the world of him so I may have to keep him now.
You guys seem to think the world of him so I may have to keep him now.
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
Piling on here... JMatt
Superflex Format Q(SF)RWWFFTDK 12 Team PPR
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart
2020 2 1st & 2nd
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
SF1 - Yr 2
Goff Ryan Darnold Dalton
CMC Cohen Hines McFarland Peterson
Hopkins Adams Boyd Jeffery Shepard Boykins Higgins Quntez Duverney
Andrews Waller
SF2 - Yr 7 - 2019 Champ
Wentz Dak Goff Grier Brisset
Cook Mixon Hyde Mattison Edmonds Boone
M.Thomas Sutton Edelman J.Landry
Kittle Goedart Higbee
SF3 - Yr 4
Watson Burrow Goff Foles
Barkley Ja.Williams
Hopkins Evans Sutton Lamb Shepard VSM K.Harmon
Higbee Smith Howard
SF4 - Orphan Year 2
Dak Jones Taylor Brisset Eason Hurts
Taylor CEH Edmonds Dobbins
Boyd Ridley Mclaurin Lamb Reagor Harry Bryan Perriman Hurd
Andrews Goedart
2020 2 1st & 2nd
Deep Format - QQRRWWWTTFFDDKK 10 team PPR
Deep 2 Yr 5
Brady Stafford Lock Dalton Brissett
CMC Mixon Taylor Dillon DJ Hyde
Evans Hopkins Julio Edelman Gallup D.Jackson Mimz Claypool Boykin
Engram Gesicki Fant Herndon Dissly
Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
I'm not the biggest Matthews fan but this is a pretty easy trade to make. You're giving up a bunch of mostly useless pieces for a player you can start pretty regularly.
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
dynastyallday, it isn't that we love him, but more the statement below that sums it up perfectly.
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RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
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QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02, 2.06,
2025: 2 1sts, 2 2nds
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QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, 2.05, 2.06
2025: 1 1st, 1 2nd
PPR SF, WR & TE Premium (WR 1.2 PPR , TE 1.5 PPR), 10 total starters, 1 QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Mahomes, Prescott, Mayfield
RB: Hall, Pacheco, Jacobs, Connor, Chubb, Mattison
WR: Tyreek, AJ Brown, Flowers, CSutton, JJeudy, Slayton, Iosivas
TE: McBride, DSchultz, Musgrave, Kraft, MGesicki
2024: 1.02, 2.02
2022 and 2023 League Champ
SafeLeague #1 (12 team, SF, 2.0 PPR TE Prem). 10 total starters 1 QB, 1SF (QB/TE/RB/WR), 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 3 Flex
QB: Purdy, Levis, DTR
RB: Pacheco + scrubs
WR: Downs, MMims, EMoore, Jeudy, MWilson + scrubs
TE: Hock, Kincaid, Pitts, Mayer + scrubs
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.11, 2.01, 2.02, 2.06,
2025: 2 1sts, 2 2nds
SafeLeague #2
QB: Purdy, Richardson, Hooker, Willis
RB: literal ZERO RB (for now)
WR: Mingo, MMims, Toney, Skyy, Iosivas
TE: LaPorta, Kincaid, McBride, Mayer, Musgrave, Schoonmaker (and a bunch more 2nd stringers)
2024: 1.01, 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 1.09, 1.10, 2.01, 2.05, 2.06
2025: 1 1st, 1 2nd
Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
Thanks for the replies, I went ahead and took the deal
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
Those are middling third round rookie RBs attached with some unknown future picks for Matthews? EASY YES
And to pile on, I think Hill is the best RB in the trade.
And to pile on, I think Hill is the best RB in the trade.
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Re: Jordon Matthews dilemma
I think you made a good move sugbear.
I think so too. And if Freeman doesn't get his extension...
Or maybe they let Coleman walk after 2018.
14 Team, No-PPR, 20 Man Roster, TD Heavy, TD = 6, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan
14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku
QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan
14 Team, .5 PPR, 18 Man Roster, Rush/Rec TD = 6, Pass TD = 4, FG = 3, Start: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, K, D
QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
TE: K. Pitts, D. Njoku